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On March 17 2016 07:07 Laserist wrote:Considering how big of a fail GG is, this must the best they can achieve Jokes aside, I don't really understand why they still bank on C&C style which phased out more than a decade ago. 0/10 wouldn't buy.
i think there is a group of hardcore C&C fans that want a fast-fluid experience with minimal economy management. its a style of RTS i enjoy.. i like RA3; just enough economy management to make it an RTS. I find it odd that 12 minutes into a SC1 or SC2 game that half my units are workers.
anyhow i think this is why they keep bringing up C&C. it has micro like SC but a lot less in-base housekeeping-chores.
In moving from SC1 to SC2 Browder did a nice job with the MULE, Queen, and Chronoboost to make in-base tasks have some meaningful choices.
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On March 15 2016 04:10 SlammerIV wrote:looks like a reskin of C&C generals which is pretty awesome. Btw a bit off topic but I really feel that Generals is a greatly underappreciated game. in my opinion it is one of the finest rts games on the market and the graphics still hold up after 10+ years yet it is rarely mentioned
Yeah, I still watch CnC Generals casts. Mechanically its the best CnC they ever made. Tib Wars is not bad either though the super units do make things completely weird at times.
Also what's funny is that 15 years after the War on Terror started, that game with its cheesy story in Zero Hour basically called how everything turned out. Which is the biggest/saddest realization if you go back to that game.
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On April 26 2016 01:04 Antisocialmunky wrote: Also what's funny is that 15 years after the War on Terror started, that game with its cheesy story in Zero Hour basically called how everything turned out. Which is the biggest/saddest realization if you go back to that game.
Sperry is a visionary in more than just game design.
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Im enjoying this game
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Had a play. Got my steam refund after about 40 minutes.
We don't make RTS games like this anymore for a reason. If you're going to remake an old game then make sure it's a good one first. Unfortunately the only 90's RTS that's worth remaking that doesn't get remade is Netstorm, and I don't think anyone's remaking that (or at least not properly)
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worth buying??? it's only 10 dollarish afterall
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On April 29 2016 00:41 Endymion wrote: worth buying??? it's only 10 dollarish afterall Only if you loved the old Command and Conquer games since this is just a remake of them, though light on content.
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On April 29 2016 00:56 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 00:41 Endymion wrote: worth buying??? it's only 10 dollarish afterall Only if you loved the old Command and Conquer games since this is just a remake of them, though light on content. i played c&c and ra1 a lot, but i thought this looked more like generals (at least with the econ)
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What, this is an remake? Thought it was a new C&C game. And C&C or not, has nothing to do with low fluid economy.
Meaning, you can have tons of different RTS games with low fluid economy which isnt anything like C&C. I dont know why i bother to respond to something raynor said though.
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On April 29 2016 01:22 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2016 00:56 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 29 2016 00:41 Endymion wrote: worth buying??? it's only 10 dollarish afterall Only if you loved the old Command and Conquer games since this is just a remake of them, though light on content. i played c&c and ra1 a lot, but i thought this looked more like generals (at least with the econ) I feel like the econ is like Generals but the UI, building construction system, and unit roster felt a bit more like the old C&C games.
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Generals was so much fun, although the original Zero Hour was unbalanced as heck. Air Force general or Infantry general usually dominated and vanilla Generals had that Scud Storm hack/exploit. Still, great game and also very easy to mod since everything was basically zipped INI files. Had a lot fun making the Shockwave mod with friends and playtesting various new stuff.
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On April 29 2016 01:47 Foxxan wrote: What, this is an remake? Thought it was a new C&C game. And C&C or not, has nothing to do with low fluid economy.
Meaning, you can have tons of different RTS games with low fluid economy which isnt anything like C&C. I dont know why i bother to respond to something raynor said though.
It's not a remake, but it is very C&C 95. IThe 'campaign' (basically skirmish maps with light backstory and challenge objectives) especially is C&C reference after C&C reference.
Petro is active on Steam / gog forums. Second patch was released not too long ago and addressed a lot of feedback.
I'm enjoying it.
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Ah alright. Well i bought it, will try it out. Watched a stream for 1min, looks interesting
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What the hell, no matchmaking. How am i supposed to play 1v1 competetive now? :S
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i read that they said they will be adding a ELO rank with 1v1, 2v2, etc... soon, they are trying to get the core game fully completed with patches and what not before going for that
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Game is basically an Early Access game sold as full release. 15$ is the price but it is not worth more. And it is not even C&C 95 because that one had better missions, cinematics between missions and better multiplayers with 2 factions that had interesting units.
Anyone interested in this can also play Open RA for free and that is better than this in every way.
Petro must be very broke when they decided to make this... this game might be worth it in 6 months when they added meaningful content to the game.
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On April 29 2016 17:09 -Archangel- wrote: Game is basically an Early Access game sold as full release. 15$ is the price but it is not worth more. And it is not even C&C 95 because that one had better missions, cinematics between missions and better multiplayers with 2 factions that had interesting units.
Anyone interested in this can also play Open RA for free and that is better than this in every way.
Petro must be very broke when they decided to make this... this game might be worth it in 6 months when they added meaningful content to the game. The developers claim to be planning 6 more factions for the game, with accompanying campaigns. I hope the graphical style of the game lets them iterate this content faster, and I hope that the development can last that long. Otherwise, I feel like this game is worth $5 to $8 in its current form.
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Campaign is just a bunch of skirmish maps with stupid additional goals. I would not even call it a campaign.
For people wanting to play SP, better to buy Grey Goo (their previous game) than this one.
And for MP, Act of Aggression Reboot edition is a far superior game than 8 bit.
And for MP Co-op, sc2 Co-op is free to play for anyone and it is also way superior.
EDIT: Also I understand I am now bashing a game I promoted here but they didn't deliver in my opinion. At least not in the current version.
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As for bashing the game now when you promoted it, nothing wrong with that, infact i would say its a good thing. You never knew how the game would end up like, now you give an honest opinion which is appreciated even.
As for the game, It for sure is lacking. And i was only interested in the multiplayer. Anyway, as for the gameplay it feels a bit bad. Cant even make a refinery close to the cash, i tried two maps. Micro feels very clunky. Iam not sure they will really improve the core gameplay but maybe iam wrong.
The graphic though, its nothing wrong at it infact i kinda like that its not any fancy graphics because what really matters is the gameplay and if the gameplay was great i would be in love.
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