I didn't see a post about this and I thought it was pretty interesting so here it goes.
Supposedly there was a "light in the sky" that appeared over Norway last night. There's some pretty clear footage and thousands of witness reports. Anyways I was wondering why this hasn't been covered more and why things like this are constantly shunned or no explanations are given.
I hate how this stuff usually gets overlooked. We usually just offer a public statement about what happens but the statement never seems to match up with what was seen. Supernatural phenomenon are definitely worth discussing imo.
On December 10 2009 13:24 Slow Motion wrote: It's ok, Norway is one of our more useless expansions. We're good as long as our production facilities in China and U.S. are safe.
It's kinda stupid though that we only mined up our unimportant expos like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
On December 10 2009 13:24 Slow Motion wrote: It's ok, Norway is one of our more useless expansions. We're good as long as our production facilities in China and U.S. are safe.
It's kinda stupid though that we only mined up our unimportant expos like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
On December 10 2009 13:24 Slow Motion wrote: It's ok, Norway is one of our more useless expansions. We're good as long as our production facilities in China and U.S. are safe.
we need to make oov as world leader so he can get us all macroing
Why are you guys buying that crazy goverment explaination about missles? Ask yourself: From that angle and distance, with proper consideration for fluid movements, particle dispersion and lighting effects in the upper atomosphere, does that really look like a spiraling missle?
Oh, so if the Russian government tells us its just a missile, it must be true, right?
RIGHT?!!
Look, you fools! You're in danger! Can't you see? They're after you. They're after all of us! Our wives, our children, everyone! THEY'RE HERE ALREADY! YOU'RE NEXT!
On December 10 2009 14:02 Captain Peabody wrote: Oh, so if the Russian government tells us its just a missile, it must be true, right?
RIGHT?!!
Look, you fools! You're in danger! Can't you see? They're after you. They're after all of us! Our wives, our children, everyone! THEY'RE HERE ALREADY! YOU'RE NEXT!
On December 10 2009 13:24 Slow Motion wrote: It's ok, Norway is one of our more useless expansions. We're good as long as our production facilities in China and U.S. are safe.
It's kinda stupid though that we only mined up our unimportant expos like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
Lets talk the physics here. In order for a objects moving in a forward direction to also aquire a perpendicular spin, would or would not the side thruster have to be located at the middle of the rocket? If it was located at say the top or bottom of the rocket wouldnt it cause the forward vector to curve?
On December 10 2009 13:13 Necosarius wrote: Recall?!
Who saw this coming? This is crazy, how it got bigger then turned into a ring... wow, you should definitely keep up with this story and keep posting updates.
I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with worm holes in the sky that close to my home >_> this is really interesting, i want to know what it is asap
boooo I read the explanation posted earlier in the thread and I have to say it sounds logical. I'm open minded tho and hope for a more exciting explanation
btw, I looked forward reading an interesting discussion about this only to find 3 pages of sc related jokes.... ugh................................................
lol lets be real, a worm hole pops up in the sky and the earth is left uneffected.
what we know about wormhole is that it has never been observed by any telescope of any kind. it's extremely difficult to stablize such matter.. so it poping up in our atmosphere is out of the question. wormhole is as much scifi as... a startrek teleporter. lol.
but hey, they should have tried to catapult a few guys in there cuz supposedly a wormhole takes you to another part of the universe. and maybe he can come back in time with photographs of the Andromeda galaxy...
On December 10 2009 14:41 Archerofaiur wrote: Lets talk the physics here. In order for a objects moving in a forward direction to also aquire a perpendicular spin, would or would not the side thruster have to be located at the middle of the rocket? If it was located at say the top or bottom of the rocket wouldnt it cause the forward vector to curve?
The side thrusters would most likely be located near the ends, not the middle. This is because the moment of perpendicular force is greater when the distance increases.
Sigh does any TL member happen to be a physics, astronomy or engineering major?
If so one of the first questions Id like to delve into is how perpendicular gas could expand at a rate fast enough to make the radius rival the original "ion" trail.
On December 10 2009 14:19 Hot77.iEy wrote: someone let me in on the swamp gas joke? :C
In late March 1966, in Michigan, two days of mass UFO sightings were reported, and received significant publicity. After studying the reports, Hynek offered a provisional hypothesis for some of the sightings: a few of about 100 witnesses had mistaken swamp gas for something more spectacular. At the press conference where he made his announcement, Hynek repeatedly and strenuously made the qualification that swamp gas was a plausible explanation for only a portion of the Michigan UFO reports, and certainly not for UFO reports in general. But much to his chagrin, Hynek's qualifications were largely overlooked, and the words "swamp gas" were repeated ad infinitum in relation to UFO reports. The explanation was subject to national derision.
You know, my cat has been freaking out the past two hours for no apparent reason, running around like she's chasing something even though the apartment is empty.
...unless there was a massive recall and there's a Dark Templar in here now. Do cats have natural detection?
On December 10 2009 14:57 Archerofaiur wrote: Sigh does any TL member happen to be a physics, astronomy or engineering major?
If so one of the first questions Id like to delve into is how perpendicular gas could expand at a rate fast enough to make the radius rival the original "ion" trail.
Perspective? Our view of the rocket makes the 'ion' trail seem shorter than it really is?
On December 10 2009 15:19 Kennigit wrote: Looks like someone did the twirl filter in photoshop. No way that last photo is real.
How can you tell? There are others.
That video is recorded in my hometown it looks like, tho its very blurry so a bit hard to tell. Laddering TSL and reading for exams 24\7 made me miss this shit
On December 10 2009 14:02 Captain Peabody wrote: Oh, so if the Russian government tells us its just a missile, it must be true, right?
RIGHT?!!
Look, you fools! You're in danger! Can't you see? They're after you. They're after all of us! Our wives, our children, everyone! THEY'RE HERE ALREADY! YOU'RE NEXT!
Everytime something suspicious happens in the sky, id rather believe in the most crazy and unreasonable explanation than in what the government tells you.
Because if it was really something unimportant, they wouldnt tell you because they couldnt care less about unimportant shitz, if they are telling you something is because they are covering something up!
On December 10 2009 14:02 Captain Peabody wrote: Oh, so if the Russian government tells us its just a missile, it must be true, right?
RIGHT?!!
Look, you fools! You're in danger! Can't you see? They're after you. They're after all of us! Our wives, our children, everyone! THEY'RE HERE ALREADY! YOU'RE NEXT!
On December 10 2009 13:24 Slow Motion wrote: It's ok, Norway is one of our more useless expansions. We're good as long as our production facilities in China and U.S. are safe.
Those damn norwegians are sitting on alot of oil, think Warcraft 2, not StarCraft! We ain't got no minerals or vespene gas on this soddy planet!
I am highly dissapointed in my fellow Stargate fans for being quoted for thinking this was a "wormhole". In our atmosphere coming from behind a mountain?!? Aliens using wormholes?
You would think they are far more sneaky than that. D- protoss perhaps?
The rocket theory seems plausible but im still not convinced.
On December 10 2009 16:30 D10 wrote: Everytime something suspicious happens in the sky, id rather believe in the most crazy and unreasonable explanation than in what the government tells you.
Because if it was really something unimportant, they wouldnt tell you because they couldnt care less about unimportant shitz, if they are telling you something is because they are covering something up!
There's a light in the sky and people immediately go to wormholes, something completely science fictional for which there has never been any kind of proof or deductive studies. UGH I NEED BREAKFAST!!
Maybe it's some kind of weapon. Like it isn't aberrant missile, the intention is to get it get it to spiral, maybe as an area of denial thing. Though it's hard to imagine that being that effective unless the area of impact was huge (which would probably take a large payload).
Though I suppose spraying fuel everywhere might help on that count. Can't imagine the fuel mist hanging around that long though. Trying to optimize that perhaps? :>
the "missile spraying fuel" idea doesn't seem plausible, fuel is denser than air, the spray would have dispersed and fallen a lot faster than what is shown. something else to take note of is that whatever is being jettisoned from the rocket is very bright, unless its being ignited i cant think of a reason why rocket fuel so far away would glow a bright blue.
but then again this is all the speculations of a nerd who wishes desperately for alien contact
Im glad I live 500m away from Eri, if this really is a protoss invasion, he's the one most likely to figure out some crazy strat to have them all fooled! ^_^
On December 10 2009 15:03 Hinanawi wrote: You know, my cat has been freaking out the past two hours for no apparent reason, running around like she's chasing something even though the apartment is empty.
...unless there was a massive recall and there's a Dark Templar in here now. Do cats have natural detection?
This thread is trash, soo many retarded Starcraft jokes being used over and over. How about reading what the topic says. Mentioning DT:s and arbiters is fun the first time, not on page 6. Canada being the natural expo was funny though
I was wondering, where was this supposed missile shot from? It has to have been from a boat or something off the coast of Norway because if Russia shot if from their actual country it would have been seen in Finland and Sweden too
On December 10 2009 20:15 Foucault wrote: I was wondering, where was this supposed missile shot from? It has to have been from a boat or something off the coast of Norway because if Russia shot if from their actual country it would have been seen in Finland and Sweden too
Supposedly a Russian submarine off our coast. Or theirs, up north. Not sure if they're allowed to fire missiles from Norwegian naval territory.
I live at a school up north this year, it's located on a steep little hill. In fact it would be a perfect vantage point for viewing the phenomenon. The missile exploded at about 07:50. I got up at 07:55.
FML.
Oh, and to the naysayers. Norwegian military confirms they had knowledge of planned Russian military activity in the area prior to the incident. The Russian claims that no such activity took place are dubious at best. There are strong indications that this was, in fact, just a missile. I do believe rocket scientists have more experience in how rocket fuel behaves in our atmosphere than the average TL-er. Even if said scientists are from Norway.
It was apparently a Russian testfire of a Bulava missile gone bad. For the 9th time. Out of 13 testfires. It's embarrassing for Russia, so they don't want to admit it.
The explaination given for the blue is that it is an ion trail. Going back to the large white spiral, I asked how it could be expanding (apparently) faster then the blue trail. Going by this explaination the object would have to be moving with a fast velocity towards the camera in that picture.
However in all the other footage we see the object having a fairly stationary horizontal position during the spiral phase.
On December 10 2009 20:15 Foucault wrote: This thread is trash, soo many retarded Starcraft jokes being used over and over. How about reading what the topic says. Mentioning DT:s and arbiters is fun the first time, not on page 6. Canada being the natural expo was funny though
You better use these ressources, the Mexicans are pushing hard on to your main.
Missle test gone wrong?! And you or schientist who never saw it know how new missle should work? 8) Just like the sonic-missles which kill all life forms with zero explotions - new staff works differently. Could be some natural phenomenon caused by human activity again...and also most UFO's are new jets from a secret programs that governments don't want people to know and there's no better way to hide em than UFO. Also heared about same spirals with blue trail in 90s. And previous "Bulava" failures looked different from this spiral. But sure a convinient way to lie and hide something you don't want others to find out about.
On December 10 2009 20:15 Foucault wrote: This thread is trash, soo many retarded Starcraft jokes being used over and over. How about reading what the topic says. Mentioning DT:s and arbiters is fun the first time, not on page 6. Canada being the natural expo was funny though
You better use these ressources, the Mexicans are pushing hard on to your main.
1. if it was, it probably wouldn't release so much light and look like the milky way 2. negative energy (if it existed) needed to hold the wormhole open would have probably fked europe or the entire planet. 3. closure of a wormhole that can be seen by the naked eye would mean a black hole at our doorstep (explosion?)=certain death and extinction of the human race by 2 o'clock in the afternoon
On December 10 2009 20:15 Foucault wrote: This thread is trash, soo many retarded Starcraft jokes being used over and over. How about reading what the topic says. Mentioning DT:s and arbiters is fun the first time, not on page 6. Canada being the natural expo was funny though
You better use these ressources, the Mexicans are pushing hard on to your main.
Good move blocking those Manner Minarets
We failed capturing our Gas but at least our Minerals are save from blocking.
Russia has one of the highest rates of violent crime in the world, and economic inequality that makes the US look like the land of Karl Marx's wet dreams. Maybe they should try to take care of their own people instead of menacing the West for the stupidest and most short-sighted of reasons. (What they seem to be after is "revenge" for the imaginary humiliation at the hands of America in the 90's.) But they can't, Russia's ruling elite being what it is: a collective dictatorship of the KGB (or FSB, or cheka, or the oprichniki...)
P.S.: Why would a wormhole emit electromagnetic (as opposed to gravitational) radiation?
On December 10 2009 23:37 Hazard wrote: marcoso So damn true 8)
HnR)hT Check out Plato's wet dreams and his thoughts on democracy.
I'm not entirely sure what you are getting at. Are you saying you endorse Plato's Republic as a sound model of governance for the modern industrialized nation-state? Truly a bold proposition if I may say so.
On December 11 2009 00:07 Hazard wrote: Any model can work if the government uses it correctly and any model can fail. As for Plato than he liked monarchy the most.
It's probably not an alien invasion or whatever. But I don't buy the rocket explanation. They are too much trying to convince us that this is a rocket to be really one imo.
I wonder if alien hackers read tl.net If so, show yourself!
On December 10 2009 23:37 Hazard wrote: marcoso So damn true 8)
HnR)hT Check out Plato's wet dreams and his thoughts on democracy.
I'm not entirely sure what you are getting at. Are you saying you endorse Plato's Republic as a sound model of governance for the modern industrialized nation-state? Truly a bold proposition if I may say so.
The missile story doesn't add up since this EXACT same phenomenon happened in China a while back. The video on youtube showing how something could cause such a situation would require you to be at a perfectly specific angle for the spiral to appear that way, as well. Seeing as how it looks the same in all the various photographs, at many different angles, it would have to be very far away for it to happen, and also be absurdly large.
On December 11 2009 01:15 Vedic wrote: The missile story doesn't add up since this EXACT same phenomenon happened in China a while back. The video on youtube showing how something could cause such a situation would require you to be at a perfectly specific angle for the spiral to appear that way, as well. Seeing as how it looks the same in all the various photographs, at many different angles, it would have to be very far away for it to happen, and also be absurdly large.
China borders Russia as well, you know that right.
On December 11 2009 01:15 Vedic wrote: The missile story doesn't add up since this EXACT same phenomenon happened in China a while back. The video on youtube showing how something could cause such a situation would require you to be at a perfectly specific angle for the spiral to appear that way, as well. Seeing as how it looks the same in all the various photographs, at many different angles, it would have to be very far away for it to happen, and also be absurdly large.
China borders Russia as well, you know that right.
On December 11 2009 01:15 Vedic wrote: The missile story doesn't add up since this EXACT same phenomenon happened in China a while back. The video on youtube showing how something could cause such a situation would require you to be at a perfectly specific angle for the spiral to appear that way, as well. Seeing as how it looks the same in all the various photographs, at many different angles, it would have to be very far away for it to happen, and also be absurdly large.
China borders Russia as well, you know that right.
Yeah... and?
and? You are right bro, it's a fucking UFO but every government on the planet try to hide it!!!! I don't know how you could not see the link between China and Russia having a common border and the incident in Norway which is related to rocket testing from Russia.
On December 11 2009 01:15 Vedic wrote: The missile story doesn't add up since this EXACT same phenomenon happened in China a while back. The video on youtube showing how something could cause such a situation would require you to be at a perfectly specific angle for the spiral to appear that way, as well. Seeing as how it looks the same in all the various photographs, at many different angles, it would have to be very far away for it to happen, and also be absurdly large.
China borders Russia as well, you know that right.
Yeah... and?
and? You are right bro, it's a fucking UFO but every government on the planet try to hide it!!!! I don't know how you could not see the link between China and Russia having a common border and the incident in Norway which is related to rocket testing from Russia.
Re-read - the border has nothing to do with anything... at all.
Maybe I'm easily amused...but I love all the starcraft references which people come up with in every topical thread. As others have said, I think this thread's a prime example of some of the better stuff.
But the reason I think the starcraft jokes are really amazing, is I get a feeling they're always going to be made in this forum, no matter what. For example if some really terrible event actually happened, such as alien invasion or nuclear war, amid the world falling apart someone posting "gg no re" or "should have got detection sooner", would be pretty uplifting. Kind of.
"A spectacular spiral light show in the sky above Norway Wednesday was caused by a Russian missile that failed just after launch, according to Russia's defense ministry.
When the rocket motor spun out of control, it likely created the heavenly spiral of white light near where the missile was launched from a submarine in the White Sea. The Russian defense ministry confirmed to the Itar-Tass news agency that a Bulava ballistic missile test had failed.
seriously 50 years down the road they are going to release a document saying this wasn't a rocket at all. that's what happened with Roswell's weather balloons. that's what's happening now!!!
Iran holds a failed missle launch test= Weekly round the clock coverage on all major networks
Russia holds a failed missle launch for an intercontinental weapon designed to deliver 10 nuclear warheads to seperate targets at a 5,000 kilometer range, proximal to a sovereign nation for which hundreds of eyewitnesses see large, abnormal and spectacular spiraling effects that even the experts admit they have never seen from a rocket before, the entire event subsequently being denyed by Russia initially then admited = no coverage
On December 10 2009 23:34 HnR)hT wrote: Maybe they should try to take care of their own people instead of menacing the West for the stupidest and most short-sighted of reasons.
On December 11 2009 02:35 Archerofaiur wrote: Iran holds a failed missle launch test= Weekly round the clock coverage on all major networks
Russia holds a failed missle launch for an intercontinental weapon designed to deliver 10 nuclear warheads to seperate targets at a 5,000 kilometer range, proximal to a sovereign nation for which hundreds of eyewitnesses see large, abnormal and spectacular spiraling effects that even the experts admit they have never seen from a rocket before, the entire event subsequently being denyed by Russia initially then admited = no coverage
On December 11 2009 02:35 Archerofaiur wrote: Iran holds a failed missle launch test= Weekly round the clock coverage on all major networks
Russia holds a failed missle launch for an intercontinental weapon designed to deliver 10 nuclear warheads to seperate targets at a 5,000 kilometer range, proximal to a sovereign nation for which hundreds of eyewitnesses see large, abnormal and spectacular spiraling effects that even the experts admit they have never seen from a rocket before, the entire event subsequently being denyed by Russia initially then admited = no coverage
It was clearly a ghost. He fired his nuke and he was stopped before he could finish the job. We shoulda spent the resources expoing to the south pole. I hear it's a double gas expo.
On December 11 2009 01:38 Tal wrote: Maybe I'm easily amused...but I love all the starcraft references which people come up with in every topical thread. As others have said, I think this thread's a prime example of some of the better stuff.
But the reason I think the starcraft jokes are really amazing, is I get a feeling they're always going to be made in this forum, no matter what. For example if some really terrible event actually happened, such as alien invasion or nuclear war, amid the world falling apart someone posting "gg no re" or "should have got detection sooner", would be pretty uplifting. Kind of.
Hahahaha "40,000 people were killed by a suicide bomber in a crowded city square"
On December 11 2009 00:42 MamiyaOtaru wrote: That's what I've been saying! Those darn scientists are trying too hard to convince us that evolution is real. Therefore, it obviously isn't
On December 10 2009 18:23 Osmoses wrote: There's a light in the sky and people immediately go to wormholes, something completely science fictional for which there has never been any kind of proof or deductive studies. UGH I NEED BREAKFAST!!
Lights in the sky are cool though.
Oh? I didn't know that. I thought that, "In physics, a wormhole is a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime that is, fundamentally, a 'shortcut' through space and time. Simply, spacetime is a two-dimensional (2-D) surface that, when 'folded' over, allows the formation of a wormhole bridge." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormholes).
Now sure, I pulled that from Wikipedia and you're probably gonna say "Lawl Wikipedia is never right" which is wrong within itself, but thats simply not true. Its not "completely science fictional".
On December 10 2009 18:23 Osmoses wrote: There's a light in the sky and people immediately go to wormholes, something completely science fictional for which there has never been any kind of proof or deductive studies. UGH I NEED BREAKFAST!!
Lights in the sky are cool though.
Oh? I didn't know that. I thought that, "In physics, a wormhole is a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime that is, fundamentally, a 'shortcut' through space and time. Simply, spacetime is a two-dimensional (2-D) surface that, when 'folded' over, allows the formation of a wormhole bridge." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormholes).
Now sure, I pulled that from Wikipedia and you're probably gonna say "Lawl Wikipedia is never right" which is wrong within itself, but thats simply not true. Its not "completely science fictional".
They have never been observed and only exist on paper as far as we know. Why would one suddenly appear in the sky above Norway when one hasn't been spotted anywhere in the universe ever before? Occam's razor ffs.
On December 10 2009 18:23 Osmoses wrote: There's a light in the sky and people immediately go to wormholes, something completely science fictional for which there has never been any kind of proof or deductive studies. UGH I NEED BREAKFAST!!
Lights in the sky are cool though.
Oh? I didn't know that. I thought that, "In physics, a wormhole is a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime that is, fundamentally, a 'shortcut' through space and time. Simply, spacetime is a two-dimensional (2-D) surface that, when 'folded' over, allows the formation of a wormhole bridge." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormholes).
Now sure, I pulled that from Wikipedia and you're probably gonna say "Lawl Wikipedia is never right" which is wrong within itself, but thats simply not true. Its not "completely science fictional".
They have never been observed and only exist on paper as far as we know. Why would one suddenly appear in the sky above Norway when one hasn't been spotted anywhere in the universe ever before? Occam's razor ffs.
One has never been seen. Therefore it must not exist.
EDIT: Also worth noting that I wasn't arguing that this case is proof of the existence of wormholes. I was arguing that 'science fiction' isn't the only instance of wormholes as my quote suggested.
On December 10 2009 18:23 Osmoses wrote: There's a light in the sky and people immediately go to wormholes, something completely science fictional for which there has never been any kind of proof or deductive studies. UGH I NEED BREAKFAST!!
Lights in the sky are cool though.
Oh? I didn't know that. I thought that, "In physics, a wormhole is a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime that is, fundamentally, a 'shortcut' through space and time. Simply, spacetime is a two-dimensional (2-D) surface that, when 'folded' over, allows the formation of a wormhole bridge." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormholes).
Now sure, I pulled that from Wikipedia and you're probably gonna say "Lawl Wikipedia is never right" which is wrong within itself, but thats simply not true. Its not "completely science fictional".
They have never been observed and only exist on paper as far as we know. Why would one suddenly appear in the sky above Norway when one hasn't been spotted anywhere in the universe ever before? Occam's razor ffs.
One has never been seen. Therefore it must not exist.
EDIT: Also worth noting that I wasn't arguing that this case is proof of the existence of wormholes. I was arguing that 'science fiction' isn't the only instance of wormholes as my quote suggested.
Are you not familiar with the meaning of the word hypothetical?
On December 10 2009 18:23 Osmoses wrote: There's a light in the sky and people immediately go to wormholes, something completely science fictional for which there has never been any kind of proof or deductive studies. UGH I NEED BREAKFAST!!
Lights in the sky are cool though.
Oh? I didn't know that. I thought that, "In physics, a wormhole is a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime that is, fundamentally, a 'shortcut' through space and time. Simply, spacetime is a two-dimensional (2-D) surface that, when 'folded' over, allows the formation of a wormhole bridge." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormholes).
Now sure, I pulled that from Wikipedia and you're probably gonna say "Lawl Wikipedia is never right" which is wrong within itself, but thats simply not true. Its not "completely science fictional".
They have never been observed and only exist on paper as far as we know. Why would one suddenly appear in the sky above Norway when one hasn't been spotted anywhere in the universe ever before? Occam's razor ffs.
One has never been seen. Therefore it must not exist.
EDIT: Also worth noting that I wasn't arguing that this case is proof of the existence of wormholes. I was arguing that 'science fiction' isn't the only instance of wormholes as my quote suggested.
Are you not familiar with the meaning of the word hypothetical?
Sure. Hypothetical. I did make a mistake in my reasoning. I figured that he meant fictional in the sense of literature. But if he means fictional as in suggested then yeah, its fictional.
On December 10 2009 13:24 Slow Motion wrote: It's ok, Norway is one of our more useless expansions. We're good as long as our production facilities in China and U.S. are safe.
It's kinda stupid though that we only mined up our unimportant expos like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
That's not a picture of the exact missile that was being talked about, but it's one of the American MIRV missiles that was retired in the past. I always found that picture to be very striking and beautiful, even.
Yeah, the whole peacekeeper thing is a reference to the idea that a single "knockout punch" will defeat a nation's will to fight. It's like we haven't learned anything since world war one.
it's the american missile defense system in action. iran or north korea launched a nuke and our advanced american technology created a black hole to swallow the missile.