On June 30 2015 01:52 G5 wrote:
Everything I have learned, read, and watched including massive studies done/statistics pretty much 100% contradicts your argument. Considering what I reference is from experts in the field and actual statistics, I put faith in those numbers than your opinion on "how this works". Especially considering you actually said How do I know all of this? Because I have a very close friend who used to work as an escort. Quoting your 1 friend in my opinion is absolutely nothing compared to the massive surveys and research done on the thousands of girls that these statistics come from. You even go as far as to say "No one was forced to do shit.". That makes your argument so invalid it's absurd because there are quite literally facts supporting the exact opposite lol. I understand you have an opinion and want to voice it (that is after all what a debate is about) but if you want to change anyone's mind, why not come in with some actual numbers from reputable sources than coming in with your aggressive "you're an idiot" tactics because you "know a former prostitute". Maybe if you approached things logically and calmly you wouldn't be sitting there with a temp-ban as well.
Everything I have learned, read, and watched including massive studies done/statistics pretty much 100% contradicts your argument. Considering what I reference is from experts in the field and actual statistics, I put faith in those numbers than your opinion on "how this works". Especially considering you actually said How do I know all of this? Because I have a very close friend who used to work as an escort. Quoting your 1 friend in my opinion is absolutely nothing compared to the massive surveys and research done on the thousands of girls that these statistics come from. You even go as far as to say "No one was forced to do shit.". That makes your argument so invalid it's absurd because there are quite literally facts supporting the exact opposite lol. I understand you have an opinion and want to voice it (that is after all what a debate is about) but if you want to change anyone's mind, why not come in with some actual numbers from reputable sources than coming in with your aggressive "you're an idiot" tactics because you "know a former prostitute". Maybe if you approached things logically and calmly you wouldn't be sitting there with a temp-ban as well.
Your statistics are already fucked up because most of the time your numbers are based on surveys or self-reports. As such, the vast majority of women who are actually independent escorts will not be willing to divulge any kind of information at all because of the nature of their work. Your numbers are skewed and you know it, and trying to use research on this particular topic is going to fail miserably. Anyone with a minor in statistics and some logic could have figured out that you're basically just fucking using skewed numbers for the purpose of your argument.
If you had any real experience in the sex worker industry you would know that the vast majority of research done on sex work is a load of rubbish. I could easily find multiple studies that completely contradict what you are saying.
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=456EF46E53B2C1D7D95B59F3974CCBCC.journals?aid=9332013&fileId=S1474746413000304
Despite this attention, prosecutions, convictions and rescues have been scarce relative to funding, leading critical scholars to argue that CSEC is a moral panic. The following article, based on fourteen months of participant-observation between 2009 and 2010 with social service providers, law enforcement officials, not-for-profit directors and local clergy from a voluntary participation federal anti-trafficking taskforce in Atlantic City, New Jersey provides an ethnographic account of the ways that helping professionals confront the challenges and contradictions of implementing policy and advocating for an invisible target population that is rarely, if ever, visible in their work lives.
So let's not play the 'I have the numbers to support my stupid hypothesis about the sex work field when I have absolutely 0 experience in the field.'
Oh, and before you also say 'You're just making shit up' do realize that every legitimate and objective researcher has talked about how you can't just make claims about the sex worker industry, especially in a country like the United States, because you simply cannot have valid data. Not just that, almost all the research that you cited or even talked about, specifically is targeting the street walking population of sex workers in the United States, which is a fraction of what it used to be, and is minuscule compared to the entire sex industry as a whole currently.
Read this if you want to know more.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.170.3117&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Pretty much, almost all the research you cite is going to be garbage, because the vast majority of your research specifically targets streetwalkers, or the research is done by someone who is part of the anti-sex work industry (if you look up many of their names you'll find that they are actually in fact part of the political right who vastly opposes the legalization of sex work). I'm not saying that there aren't immoral/shady things going on in the sex industry, however to try and paint a picture that the entire sex industry is somehow made up of mostly pimped out underaged girls is hilarious. That's the farthest thing from the truth, especially if you know anyone from the sex worker industry.
So again, before going all 'higher than all mighty' on the rest of us, do us a favor, interview a sex worker, ask for her opinions, and actually get educated on the subject for once.