On July 22 2015 15:13 TedCruz2016 wrote:
It's bad against mass T1 units, and it takes high APM to kite without taking significant damage because you have to manage other units while kiting.
It's bad against mass T1 units, and it takes high APM to kite without taking significant damage because you have to manage other units while kiting.
Are you answering someone else or me? Seems like it's a mistake quote
On July 26 2015 00:02 lolias wrote:
Lurker are X times worse than their are in Brood War. Tanks outrange them, tanks are more mobil, cyclines outrange them, liberator outrange them. Bio is better in EVERY way. More mobile, more beefy. I havent seen a single pro match won with lurker. And even on ladder they are highly situational. Lurker stayed pretty much the same, besides being later due to hydra lair tech.
And about the Cyclone: Its just a boring kite unit. It doesnt require much micro, it just requires attention. Terran should get somothing decent on their Raven.
Lurker are X times worse than their are in Brood War. Tanks outrange them, tanks are more mobil, cyclines outrange them, liberator outrange them. Bio is better in EVERY way. More mobile, more beefy. I havent seen a single pro match won with lurker. And even on ladder they are highly situational. Lurker stayed pretty much the same, besides being later due to hydra lair tech.
And about the Cyclone: Its just a boring kite unit. It doesnt require much micro, it just requires attention. Terran should get somothing decent on their Raven.
Huh? Lurkers are really powerful right now. It does 20+10 damage while having default 9 rang,e I guess, to make up for later morph with hydra den. Lurkers straight line damage is really fast in lotv and don't offer much in dodging it because how fast it hits. It his really fast in game and I am seeing people who try medivac pick up to dodge get hit instead of being able to move out of way.
It also burrows really fast in seconds and is more tanky than siege tank. Unless medivac is involved (which I think is silly being able to pick up sieged and dropping sieged tanks) no way lurker is less mobile than siege tank.
And if you are talking about dealing with other units: tanks got similar counters as well. Also, lack of mobile detection from terran makes it situationally more powerful as instead of science vessel, only option is gimped raven that is far too slow to even keep up with bio army, which even if it is beefier, is dealt with lurkers incredibly well from what I've seen. Maps are generally smaller too.
I am just iffed cyclone overshadows it and balance team seems to focus more on cyclone than tank.