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Well, when you end up with 132 cs as jungle Mundo you kno your first game went badly. He's really fun early game tho, fast, good ganks, and his ult really helps in teamfight, on top of being on a short cd. I'm a bad farmer in general but I feel like I suffered a lot from having to camp top lane early on (he didn't commit on my lv2 gank so we lost FB), then bot lane (who was winning, securing drakes and making it win harder), it helped the team but I didn't farmed as much, and I even began being counterjungled when top refused to buy any wards and got camped and caught everytime.
I built tabi->HoG->SV->Aegis->wit's->randuin's then the game ended. Wit's didn't feel that good as we were well into midgame (and Veigar was fed), a neg would probabl have been better and allowed me to finish randuin's earlier for Kog/Jax. Then I guess something like Zeke's as 6th item and turning neg into QSS or FoN instead.
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On April 12 2012 22:43 Tooplark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 08:48 RogerX wrote: I've been playing a lot of Mundo lately, just tanking and mawing through the enemy team.
My question is on the build, spirit visage is an AMAZING item for Mundo, but do you guys think its worth it to sell Spirit visage and get something better in the very late game (Like another MR item or whatever, perhaps GA)? Where you have 6 items and one being SV. Remember that spirit visage gets better as you get more health and level up your ult. That 15% increased healing? That becomes an extra 10% of your max health with level 3 ult. There are actually very few things better than spirit visage late game for mundo.
Unless you already have three Warmogs, you actually gain more HP back with Warmogs as apposed to SV...
Imo SV better though because it cheaper and you get CDR. Call me crazy but having SV makes you much scarier than just having Giants belt/Ruby/pots instead.
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I don't like spirit visage because it doesn't give you any real regen until your ultimate starts getting good. I'd say it's a good buy after level 16 if you need more MR.
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This champion is broken. He has no real hard weaknesses. Great jungling speed, great counterjungler, ok ganks, godlike tank late game.
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Btw, in which situations would you get Zeke's? It seems good if your team has another auto-attacker, CDR, AS, some sustain through spellvamp and the aura. If I want HP there's SV too which also gives MR, or Aegis, so my support can rush Shurelya. Then again if I get both my support can still bring Aegis to double the aura for both of us, but I don't think it's worth it, and if I get Zeke's and Aegis, well... he better be a good ward bitch with all those items he doesn't get to build, I guess Shurelya + Locket would be good items for him to add to the team.
Do you consider warmogs core? I haven't built it in any of the 3 games I tried him yet, stacking HP with a mix of HoG->Randuin's/SV/Zeke's/Aegis instead.
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am i the only one who does a more magic dmg oriented build?
like max W, mpen reds, 9 point offense masteries being put in 10% mpen mastery, skipping E, buying wota etcetc?
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That 0.2 ratio on W!
Maxing W and Q before E is normal. Just I most people go 0/21/9 that 10% pen isn't worth buff duration and movement speed.
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On April 21 2012 23:25 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 22:43 Tooplark wrote:On April 12 2012 08:48 RogerX wrote: I've been playing a lot of Mundo lately, just tanking and mawing through the enemy team.
My question is on the build, spirit visage is an AMAZING item for Mundo, but do you guys think its worth it to sell Spirit visage and get something better in the very late game (Like another MR item or whatever, perhaps GA)? Where you have 6 items and one being SV. Remember that spirit visage gets better as you get more health and level up your ult. That 15% increased healing? That becomes an extra 10% of your max health with level 3 ult. There are actually very few things better than spirit visage late game for mundo. Unless you already have three Warmogs, you actually gain more HP back with Warmogs as apposed to SV... Imo SV better though because it cheaper and you get CDR. Call me crazy but having SV makes you much scarier than just having Giants belt/Ruby/pots instead. korean pros build cloth 5,boots, crystal, HoG, belt, SV, warmog, wits
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On April 22 2012 01:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote: am i the only one who does a more magic dmg oriented build?
like max W, mpen reds, 9 point offense masteries being put in 10% mpen mastery, skipping E, buying wota etcetc?
i definitely wouldn't ever go wota, but i can see mundo being a good replacement for trundle on a poke build, providing his own poke and still making this team basically unapproachable. in that situation i'd take 9/21/0
but usually i just want to get right up in someone's face and melt them with W, eat a couple hard CCs and exhausts, then back off and let my team clean up
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What summoner heals are preferable for Mundo?
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Been doing a lot of Jungle Mundo (and Shy) the past two days with moderate success.
Using Rincent masteries 9/12/9, though not sure of just full on 0 21 9 would be better.
Tried early Wit's End build but I ended up being way too squishy. Settled on Boots, HoG, Warmog's, Omen/FoN atm and it works well. Just tank shit forever and not die.
Edit: Smite/Exhaust, AS, Flat Armor, MR/Level, AS
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On April 22 2012 03:15 Dalguno wrote: What summoner heals are preferable for Mundo? You mean spells?
Generally smite+exhaust for jungling. Although I have seen some people take smite+flash, but you really don't need flash.
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On April 22 2012 03:18 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 03:15 Dalguno wrote: What summoner heals are preferable for Mundo? You mean spells? Generally smite+exhaust for jungling. Although I have seen some people take smite+flash, but you really don't need flash.
Whoops, I was on auto pilot when I typed that. Meant spells of course! What about a non-jungle Mundo? Or is he pretty much always jungle?
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On April 22 2012 05:30 Dalguno wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 03:18 Ryuu314 wrote:On April 22 2012 03:15 Dalguno wrote: What summoner heals are preferable for Mundo? You mean spells? Generally smite+exhaust for jungling. Although I have seen some people take smite+flash, but you really don't need flash. Whoops, I was on auto pilot when I typed that. Meant spells of course! What about a non-jungle Mundo? Or is he pretty much always jungle?
Top Mundo isn't as common but you can take whatever you want really. Ghost/Flash + Ignite/Exhaust. Just standard solo summoners.
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Using Rincent...
eww gross! Jokes aside, are you finding Mundo has faster jungling speed? I'm starting to see it myself & he has just a high invade potential, so probably explains why we've been seeing so many Mundo's lately.
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Mundo is just slightly better Shyvanna now. He's great at invading/counterjungling because he clears fast and is great 1v1.
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+ he can gank well and doesn't need madred's to mash big camps.
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I don't really think mundo is better than shyvana, just similar Shyv slightly better counterjungler IMO because dragon form and w zoom make you really hard to catch She's also slightly better teamfighter once the initiations have been thrown out, dragon such a great skill and the aoe armor melt is godlike
Mundo better at clearing his own jungle and tanking after Mundo better at the pre-fight shenanigans Mundo also can do a bit more damage or be a bit more tanky than shy but not usually both
Both are Pretty tits right now though. Them + udyr and skarner should pretty much be your jungle staples atm
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I have played Mundo since early beta. Finally he is viable on SR. Happy.
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i've been doing mvmt peed quints, attak speed reds, arm yellows, mr blues R>W>Q>E I've been getting 21 in defense masterys but i'm unsure of where to spend my extra 9 points, from my point of view, 9 in offense looks better than 9 in defense cause buff duration is not that critical on you and the mvmt speed increase is negligible with mvmt speed quints and boots. Now for the offense i don't know whether to get the mpen or armpen mastery. Cleaver deals alot of damage in poking especially with mpen, W hurts a lot too. But endgame E is a beast especially with some extra attkspeed and you're not itemizing penetration, so armpen sound very good too.
My main problem during games is the inicial clear, doran shield works but leaves you very vulnerable during the clear, boots 3 you are very low on the end of the clear... I really dislike cloth 5 in the new jungle but i feel like i have no choice for mundo, getting it and doing wraiths -> red -> doubles -> wraiths -> wolves -> blue while decently healthy. Any magic i'm missing in the beggining?
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