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Grackaroni's candidacy for Wheatly! 1) I will be completely transparent. Need Proof? On March 17 2012 10:25 Drazerk wrote: I do not believe in vannila townies considering the set up and what the game was originally going to be so you really might want to back track that claim. I am neither a blue role, nor a Bluelightz. Furthermore I believe that Gonzaw has the item I am looking for. I will be at my computer the second that the information goes out for the Wheatley and will tell you the abilities ASAP. I will use whatever the role is at the town's discretion. We can't even know for sure that the role will become anti-town later on so I don't mind taking it. What happens if I do turn anti town? 2) I'm on Spring Break, and thus by telling you guys, I no longer have an excuse for lurking. I like to lurk as scum because scum is scary T_T, This game I will be active. 3) I want the title. Bow to your Wheatly. Yeah, I think We're done here. Vote for Grackaroni. ##Elect: Grackaroni | ||
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On March 17 2012 11:14 gonzaw wrote: @Grackaroni So why do you think I even have an item? No role related reason. Just a random thought. | ||
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On March 17 2012 11:31 gonzaw wrote: Ehmm, that's not ramdom at all. If it was indeed a random thought, what was the purpose of posting it? I was trying to make it a little less obvious but sticking to my transparency. On March 17 2012 08:48 gonzaw wrote: Fact: Lemons contain traces of potassium sulfate. I want my lemons | ||
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On March 18 2012 00:24 ghost_403 wrote: Eventually. As of right now, he's no danger to the town. His roleclaim has told us that we don't really need to listen to him, and now that we have his death-flavor/whatever, we'll know when he kills people. If he starts killing townies, we lynch him. Otherwise, I think we should leave him alone and concentrate on finding people who are a threat to the town. Gandolf is really likely a town role he's going to have to shoot townies. I think lynching a confirmed 3rd party day1 is a good idea. | ||
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Original win con : survive until the end with town. New win con : Kill Gandolf, get 5 items. Old win con: Velinath should be Wheatly because you think he has a pro-town role similar to yours. New win con : Velinath is a horrible candidate and we must not let him get elected. Either you were trying to do something scummy earlier by electing a 3rd party (defended by the fact that 3rd party is basically overpowered blues) or you turned anti-town and didn't want somebody who you thought had a pro-town role to win the election. Nothing in your wincon should have made that change in your view of Velinath so you are either holding something back from us or you are just bullshitting completely. | ||
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On March 18 2012 02:00 sinani206 wrote: Apparently because he "understands this whole thing" or something like that. That's complete and utter bullshit. Don't elect Velinath. I think our best option is to elect Blazinghand and kill Velinath. Can you elaborate that? at all? Has Velinath done something scummy? | ||
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I think you're town and you've done a good job of showing it but I don't want to read through some of your spammy posts. | ||
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On March 17 2012 10:15 Bluelightz wrote: Anyone have a thoughts on who we should lynch? I'm gonna oppose anything involving no lynch d1, policies(LA- Lurkers as backup is fine though for today only), and random lynch. Bluelightz states that he does not like policy lynches and that Lynch all Lurkers is fine to use as a back up lynch, On March 18 2012 01:39 Bluelightz wrote: Alright, before I go I will place my lynch vote on sinani206! First, he has been lurking. Second, because that sinani looks very suspicous later on, it might distract us later in the game. ##Vote: sinani206 He then votes Sinani because he will be a distraction later in the game (policy lynch) and because he is lurking. (not using it as a back-up lynch) It's hard to read Bluelightz I would rather follow Foolishess' scum read over a null read on Bluelightz. | ||
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I might vote GLaDOS if you tell me what the item was or if he explains what voting him does but it seems like some sort of 3rd party objective to me. | ||
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On March 18 2012 08:10 Drazerk wrote: For the record the portal gun just lets you see what items someone has but you can't use any abilities if you choose to use it Speaking of which why did Kenpachi giving you that item convince you that we should kill GlaDOS? | ||
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On March 19 2012 01:37 Zephirdd wrote: Wait the fuck? Drazerk is openly claiming that he wants to be lynched? How do you know it was the cell leader? you said you didn't know who gave you the item. Maybe he's a sleeper agent? he already admitted he was 3rd party. If Drazerk actually survived the lynch he knows that people will be shooting him anyways so he's not going to waste time letting scum kill his target. Look at the way he plays now trying to threaten people for voting him by making up the anger core and threatening to give scum items if people vote for him. Drazerk, I might believe your veli claim more if you tell us the full deal with your role. You're already getting lynched anyways. | ||
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On March 19 2012 01:43 Drazerk wrote: Already told you it all actually read the thread But you've never once been able to explain your sudden switch of view on electing Velinath even though your win con barely changed. | ||
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Electing Velinath over BH because BH could be scary as the role and I felt like he was getting some random votes at the start which helped dissuade me from voting him. Velinath seems active and transparent and it's hard to do that as a new player if you are anti-town. | ||
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Why are you helping me? | ||
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On March 19 2012 02:25 Jayjay54 wrote: is he new? if so, your reasoning makes perfect sense... what do you think about daaz saying he's the dragon? last taunt? He can correct me if I'm wrong but I think his only other game was student and he acted transparently in that game as well. | ||
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On March 19 2012 02:37 Drazerk wrote: he isn't going to I am helping him after he contacted me did you give him your anger core as well? | ||
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K, so the item never existed. | ||
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On March 19 2012 02:58 blubbdavid wrote: Omg, unnessesary EBWOP by Kenpachi, is he communicating with his scum buddies? Why is everybody in this anti-town state of mind? There's a difference. Zelblade's EBWOP was in the middle of a post asking about sleeper cells and sleeper cell agents will try to find someway to breadcrumb their identity. On March 19 2012 02:49 Kenpachi wrote: This town sucks It's hard to believe that you are a veteran. You don't give any reasoning on voting JJ. You insult the town while choosing to vote for somebody who will not get lynched over a confirmed non-town player. You still expect people to vote GlaDOS when you give people no reason to believe you are town. | ||
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I went through his filter he never even claimed to be chell Where are you getting this from? | ||
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Don't see why him giving you one means much. | ||
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On March 19 2012 03:47 Drazerk wrote: He knows who the cell members are its even in VE's flip T_T Thanks again for shooting VE btw. | ||
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On March 19 2012 04:02 kitaman27 wrote: Could someone explain why Velinath is overwhelmingly being voted? I feel like I'm missing something. Wouldn't you agree that BH is getting over voted as well? People were only willing to vote these 2 people and I think that BH getting votes was pretty random before he at least pointed out a questionable post by Zelblade. I would have been happy doing it myself. @Drazerk, you know I love questioning you. Your lynch was your own fault there were people calling you confirmed town after your VE shot. Why ruin that by posting a bunch of lies? | ||
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On March 19 2012 04:21 Cyber_Cheese wrote: So, I haven't really caught up properly sorry. The Drazerk wagon doesn't sit right based on what I have seen, so I'm going to throw down a vote against Dirk. Based on meta of the people in the game, Adam seems like a decent election. You're a little late lol | ||
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On March 19 2012 04:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote: yeah I'm here now though, does anyone want to summarize it for me? I'll catch up, but probably not before night 1 ends. Drazerk claimed a 3rd party role but his story didn't match up with his claim because of his sudden switch between wanting Velinath, somebody he believed to be 3rd party, elected to Velinath being a terrible choice for the election who must not be elected. He claimed that his win con had switched but the switch didn't switch his faction and doesn't explain his change of mind on Velinath. After further questioning he made up a bunch of lies and is getting lynched. (the anger core, the communication with the sleeper cell leader etc...) Right now the most useful thing you can do is go through both Blazinghand and Velinath's filters. They are both very close to being elected and your vote could actually make a difference in the election. | ||
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On March 19 2012 04:38 Kenpachi wrote: Foolishness has a fakeclaim or posting restriction (which might be part of his fakeclaim). I received a fakeclaim at my disposal but i dont want to use it cause its too much work. Why is Kitaman mafia? well, that opening post is fucking terrible. lots of ambiguous questions, mindless responses, and Drazerk mentioned, He said NOTHING. seriously, kill him someone Why would a town player be given a fakeclaim? I wasn't given a fake claim... | ||
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On March 19 2012 04:41 Kenpachi wrote: why would i tell you fools i have a fakeclaim if i were 3rd party or scum? im townie with an obviously strong ability derps maybe you scum slipped? Seems like a wierd thing to give a townie. | ||
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On March 19 2012 06:08 Drazerk wrote: Not quite sure if you know what a village idiot is... I don't really either. I know VI wants to get lynched but do you kill people who voted you? | ||
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On March 19 2012 08:07 Velinath wrote: How do you figure? He had role names, throwing out random accusations means nothing. I'm town. Well he had a DT ability that can be used during day that checks if a player is a being of great power. He told us you were the planar dragon. I guess he could have lied, he has no more reason to help town than he does to mess with it. | ||
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I'm making lemonade? | ||
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On March 19 2012 08:27 gonzaw wrote: What is said list of items? Also, what's that "Desestabilization Level 5" that was said in Drazerk's Role PM? @Grack: I don't think anybody will give you any lemons until you explain exactly what they are for and why you need them. Just like nobody will vote for GLaDOS just because Kenpachi said so. Actually that's not true, somebody already gave me a lemon during the day. I know for a fact that they have to be given away during the night period (as I was already given one) so if somebody thinks I'm town they'll give me one. I don't mind if mafia want to WIFOM their way into shooting me because they think lemons will give me some strong power. If I get another lemon I'll explain it tomorrow. | ||
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On March 19 2012 08:36 Jayjay54 wrote: I possessed a lemon too. The "has to be given away" part makes me think that somebody searches for them and if someone gives hin lemons by chance something bad happens... Convince me otherwise and Ill tell you who to talk to. I'm guessing lemons are a pretty common item that many people have/have use for besides myself. Gonzaw mentioned a random lemon fact in his first post. | ||
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On March 19 2012 09:25 Velinath wrote: I don't know why you're trusting Drazerk on anything given that he was all over the map with his claims. He also claimed that Wiggles was not the same as he was, which would be the use of his power as well. Since from what I can tell of his role PM he could only use this once per day, at least one of those claims is false. lol, you can't compare him calling Wiggle's not the same as him, to him calling you the planar dragon. He wouldn't have taken as much shit either if he didn't suddenly switch his view on electing you for seemingly no reason, so it's not some sort of planned out elaborate lie it seems like something he could have found out and posted without thinking of the consequences. The only thing holding me back is this post : On March 19 2012 06:14 Drazerk wrote: Here is a list of people who need to die because they are scum but I distracted you all day so you never realized it - kitaman27 gonzaw MidnightGladius People who you should look out for and probably have their own agenda - Velinath Jayjay54 People you should trust - Kenpachi People you should be voting for - GlaDOS | ||
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On March 19 2012 09:36 Jayjay54 wrote: so why do you want to take this post into consideration? Kenpachi is to trust because he did what draz wanted. I am on the "own agenda" list, because I pushed him. He was also already anti-town frustated when he posted that. more information = better for town. Don't hold back, just because you are afraid of dying. If everybody is active, scum won't know who to shoot...ezpz My point is If he knew for sure that Velinath was the Planar dragon he probably would have put him in the need to die list rather than look out for list. My mentioning of it had nothing to do with you. You're probably right though, he was pissed that he was getting lynched so he probably wasn't trying to help town. | ||
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@Velinath : Are you able to gift yourself items and will you be doing that? | ||
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On March 19 2012 11:43 gonzaw wrote: @Grack: Please post info about this Lemon Tree. Did someone give you more lemons? What does the Lemon Tree do (apart I guess from just giving you more lemons)? I'm a 4th party role. I am unlynchable, bullet proof and I win with all possible roles/factions. Once per day/night cycle I must plant a lemon tree. My win condition is that I must collect the entire game's supply of lemons. My only weakness is that I am susceptible to poisoned lemons.... In reality, MidnightGladius said that people looking for lemons should grow a lemon tree... so i grew a lemon tree. It did nothing, and has no meaning. I haven't gotten anymore lemons but it's no big deal... unless of course I was telling the truth about my above role. | ||
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He is trying to collect potatoes. he just posted the bit about the lemons to make my lemon tree planting seem less suspicious Anyone trying to get potatoes? grow them. | ||
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On March 19 2012 12:12 MidnightGladius wrote: Gonzaw, I wasn't being serious about telling people seeking lemons to grow lemon trees :D. I was just poking fun at the idea of there being a black market trade in lemons, of all things. Grackaroni, now you're being a bit too silly :D. there's not much going on the thread anyways. Besides I'm pretty sure there are a few players in here who aren't bothering to read the thread so it might actually help me get one | ||
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On March 19 2012 12:21 gonzaw wrote: @Grack: Is this a joke then? Are you fake-claiming for shit and giggles? yeah, I wouldn't even consider it fake claiming its a pretty ridiculous role. | ||
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On March 19 2012 13:41 Lanaia wrote: He claimed the angry core would take two people down with him, no? It was a lie. Kenpachi gave him an item, which made him bulletproof. Just a desperate attempt to make town decide they would rather shoot him than risk lynching him. | ||
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Your need to speak poetry must surely be fake but an anti-town player that does not always make. you seemed too content to sit back and read as if you were waiting to watch us all bleed. (and we really could use a strong townie to lead!!) New players ignored you, this is probably rare your lynch target survived but you did not care. I have now looked through four of your games and they have confirmed the great town claims Unlike most vets you do not use much pressure you wait for scum to jump out at your own leisure Your number one read has always flipped scum Not lynching Dirk Hardpec seems pretty dumb If somebody gives me the lemon I continue to seek I promise to end the life of that scummy geek If scum wants to kill me they can go right ahead In fact I'll be pleased; no tears will be shed. | ||
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Your filter is empty. | ||
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On March 19 2012 17:57 phagga wrote: I think claminig items is not a good move at this point. As Drazerk's role showed there are 3rd parties and perhaps even scum out there that are dayvigs, it will be easy for them to get certain items if they need them. So I'd rather if people hold back with their item claims for now. I can agree with that, Drazerk's flip already showed a 3rd party that needs Gonzaw's item, we'll have to hope that he was the only player that needed it. Pretty bad move by Gonzaw, nobody was going to kill him before he said that lol. | ||
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I don't want to hear his my posts are clear poem one more time Whether foolishness is scum or town, I cannot say. but one thing for sure is he'lll be dead either way. I can only imagine that he writes limericks for fun. but who cares about his methods if he gets shit done. | ||
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but since you did not, the truth I will show. If given another lemon, I will be able to kill one of the players, with whom I've had my fill If you do not read the thread, I will be quite annoyed to repeat this again, I would hope to avoid. | ||
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unless some people who I actually trust complain. | ||
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On March 20 2012 03:33 Jayjay54 wrote: I don't know how you feel about me, but I do think that there are better targets. The only reason he is prefered over the other lurkers is foolishness who I don't trust yet. I'm feeling pretty good about you so I'll consider it. (I don't have a lemon anyways lol) Foolishness #1 suspicion is almost always right as town. This is a multi-factional game, if he actually is scum it doesn't make the shot bad. Scum have an even easier time identifying scum teams because they already know their own team. | ||
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On March 20 2012 03:43 Blazinghand wrote: The only joke in this thread is your filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120&user=105586¤tpage=All Yesterday you were in the thread but you were being silent. (when you were asking about veli's roles) that's not like yourself. FYI, people have said that this game is full of blue roles so that won't be a valid excuse for you to be holding back on us. | ||
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On March 20 2012 03:50 Jayjay54 wrote: I don't follow, I don't think scum will bus on d1 considering how few members they prolly have...foolishness isn't even sure himself: I'm not implying that scum would bus their own team. What I was saying is that he would have an easier time figuring out the other scum team. Ex: In purgatory Palmar was a demon and he was able to call out my entire Angel team day1 in one post. It was actually easier for him to do so because he had more information than the rest of the town. | ||
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On March 20 2012 03:52 Blazinghand wrote: Oh wait let me answer this for myself: no, Grack is trying to "soft attack" without actually asking any questions or contributing eh That was very defensive do you have something to hide? Knowing your playstyle your being unusually quiet. JJ also does raise a good point as well. | ||
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On March 20 2012 03:58 Blazinghand wrote: I highly recommend you dine upon delicious carrots, my fellow gentleman. Things you're still not doing: contributing original thoughts. I've only remembered you from one thing this game. Calling out a suspicious post from Zelblade. | ||
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Your votes seemed suspicious. You did nothing pro-town before calling out Zelblade and people wanted to elect you. Why did you want to run for the election? It does in fact seem like you quit playing to an extent after losing it. | ||
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On March 20 2012 04:04 Blazinghand wrote: Also, what, my votes seemed suspicious? Are you fucking kidding me? Here's what I did: 1) voted Cyber_Cheese for totally reasonable reasons 2) saw zelblade's "slip" (and he has not been captain mchelpful since) and voted him for that totally reasonable reason. 3) refused to negotiate with terrorists Oh you're right clearly I'm suspicious, definitely i'm a problem and not a guy like you or nisani or something! There's a difference, I don't expect much from Nisani. He's playing his standard game, I'm not sure that you are. You voted for Cyber_Cheese because he had no posts. I did give you credit for noticing Zelblade's post but you got votes before that even happened. | ||
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On March 20 2012 04:07 Blazinghand wrote: Ok, so your case is associative tells-- that some people were voting me before I was clearly town, and those people who were voting me on D1 were my scumbuddies. I can't be 3rd party or sleeper cell even since they don't communicate D1 right? So you're saying "blazinghand is in the mafia faction and his scumbuddies tried to start his mayor wagon before he established himself as town"? Is that really your case? I never even said I was making a case on you. I'm pressuring you. | ||
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On March 20 2012 04:09 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Also, the fact Grack is also going for Blazinghand, someone I have a pretty strong town read on bothers me a lot. Your best scum read is Foolishness because he wants to lynch you, and me because I said I would shoot you. Great Work. (this is of course assuming you have read the thread) | ||
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On March 20 2012 04:13 Blazinghand wrote: You dodged the question. Here, let me rephrase it in terms that you can understand better: Ok, so your PRESSURE is associative tells-- that some people were voting me before I was clearly town, and those people who were voting me on D1 were my scumbuddies. I can't be 3rd party or sleeper cell even since they don't communicate D1 right? So you're saying "blazinghand is in the mafia faction and his scumbuddies tried to start his mayor wagon before he established himself as town"? Is that really your PRESSURE? No the main reason is that you seem to be hiding. If it wasn't for you getting voted for election and pointing out zelblade's post I wouldn't remember you were playing. The election thing I added is just that I found it suspicious that you were getting votes without being overly pro-town. | ||
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On March 20 2012 04:19 Blazinghand wrote: Well I'm sorry you have a bad memory. Nothing I can do about that. I suppose I got my 13 votes from my 12 scumbuddies! It only really takes 1-2 votes. it was a 2 candidate race, after a couple votes were thrown down nobody else got a 2nd vote. | ||
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On March 20 2012 04:24 RayzorFlash wrote: Grrr, I post analysis and while I'm writing it up theres 3 pages of pointless arguing instead of actual scumhunting... I am disappoint Sorry, I'll stop spamming for a bit | ||
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On March 19 2012 19:16 Dirk Hardpec wrote: We lynch Foolishness tomorrow. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245008&user=47499¤tpage=All I thought I recalled him trolling a game with a posting restriction like that some time ago, and I was right. In this game he basically faked a posting restriction as scum. It's an easy way to troll the thread and create pointless discussion. Any chance you would tell us who's smurf you are? | ||
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I think JJ/Wiggles/Velinath/Gonzaw are all probably town. I Would be surprised if 2/3 of JJ-Wiggles-Foolishness aren't hit. | ||
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Hopefully the lynches won't be no-flip. | ||
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On March 20 2012 08:49 Nisani201 wrote: Quote from the OP: I don't know why there were no flips. The only possibility I can think of is that the flips are delayed and will be revealed to us later. I guess it's possible that he isn't promising that there's no no-flips and he's just saying that when a player flips we get to see their role PM. | ||
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On March 20 2012 09:12 blubbdavid wrote: From the OP. And now we have three times "burned to death"? hmm... I guess that means the same person killed all 3 of those guys. Nice Catch. | ||
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His /in post alone lets us know that he's a smurf. He was allowed in with 1 post while Nisani's friend was not. On March 19 2012 19:16 Dirk Hardpec wrote: We lynch Foolishness tomorrow. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245008&user=47499¤tpage=All I thought I recalled him trolling a game with a posting restriction like that some time ago, and I was right. In this game he basically faked a posting restriction as scum. It's an easy way to troll the thread and create pointless discussion. This post tells me that EITHER Dirk has a lot of time on his hands and looked back through foolishness' games from 8 months ago in order to support his omgus, instead of actively scumhunting. OR this guy has been playing for a long time and is playing a much worse game than he actually should be. I mean if you look at it he's not even hiding that he's a veteran. He gives out lots of pro-town advice in his original post and his views show that he's played a lot of games before this one. On March 20 2012 01:50 Dirk Hardpec wrote: The best way to deal with people not posting or attempting to skirt by is to shoot them when there are so many of them. The difference between people who don't post much is very little, and it's almost a given that mafia can push the lynch off their lurker onto another one. A vigilante shot is much less... emotional and involved. Ready your guns gentlemen. The problem is that aside from giving out generic pro-town advice that any veteran could, he hasn't done anything for town. Dirk has been hiding, he only shows up when he's under pressure or if he has to post. He made 2 posts that he had to make explaining his lynch and election choice. As Foolishness already said they add nothing new to the discussion, he then disappears again. Only after being called out, dies he decide to make a shitty case on foolishness and he even contradicts his own generic pro-town advice to vig lurkers when he tries to scare me away from shooting him. To sum it up, I think that dirk is a smurf of a good player. He did not contribute anything to the town. his cases have all been forced omguses. ----> (If he is smurfing he is pretending to be worse than he actually is) hes attempting to skirt by; he only posts when he is threatened or if he needs to justify a vote. And of course the most important reason is that Foolishness is always right (I know we don't know what he was but it's a multifactional game, it doesn't actually matter if he was town as every role but VI should be trying to lynch scum) ##Vote: Dirk Hardpec | ||
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On March 21 2012 07:31 ghost_403 wrote: @grack: I thought you needed another lemon to shoot Dirk? Why the change of heart? Well nobody gave me another lemon. Otherwise I would. | ||
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Kenpachi doesn't have towns interest in mind. All he cares about is whether people vote GlaDOS. He shows this by giving Drazerk, A confirmed non-town player, an item instead of giving it to town. Just don't vote GlaDOS; I don't trust him. | ||
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On March 21 2012 08:37 Jayjay54 wrote: I discredited anyone who sheeped that foolishness dirk push. But I repeat myself here. Let's stop this now, it's getting town nowhere... Give me What makes you think that people who voted for dirk are scummy? Why are you convinced he is town? Drazerk was an obvious liar with no teammates; I don't see why scum wouldn't want to sheep that vote. | ||
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On March 21 2012 08:47 Jayjay54 wrote: and before I get a lot of bullshit for defending dirk. I defended dirk when I read foolishness case, because it took a post straight out of content. Now, I am defending him, because I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell. So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani. Well now I'm intrigued. The way you said that makes it sound like you found something out over the night but you didn't want me to shoot him during the night before any night action would have returned. | ||
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On March 21 2012 09:03 Jayjay54 wrote: @david: I know that he has an ability which normally belongs to town. It is not sure though. There are other possibilites. @deadmanwalking: what questions? Sinani wants to know when hes going to die lol | ||
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I regret to inform you, but Gonzaw is dead. You should pretend, to be reading the thread. | ||
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On March 21 2012 09:12 Jayjay54 wrote: going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's. good night... I think we should be strongly considering people's previous play. Take Lanaia here for an example : On March 21 2012 09:11 Lanaia wrote: Again, really sorry for being away. I dunno, looking at blue really makes me feel uneasy. In particular: I mean really, this looks like coaching or something, but I don't know why they'd do that here rather than private. I'm really not liking gonzaw's lists and will be keeping an eye on him. There was someone else I intended to look more closely at but I seem to have forgotten who. Oh right, zelblade. I'm not liking zelblade, but I think i'm reading too much into blazinghand's read on him. Also srbubbles is taking things far more seriously than needed, but that probably isn't indicative of anything. All of her reads in this post are completely wishy-washy. If it was another player I would assume that she was scum, but I know that Lanaia often is wishy-washy so it's not a sure tell on her alignment. If I knew who Dirk was it might help me a lot, but if he was playing when foolishness' game from 8 months ago was going on which is what i suspect than he should be a pretty solid veteran. He has not been playing like a solid veteran. | ||
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In this game he looks like the Bluelightz that I'm used to seeing. he's putting even less effort into this game than usual and he has not even given us his usual list of the players in the game with a read of leaning town, null, and occasionally scum. Someone also mentioned that he was posting in a different game but did not come into the thread to vote. I would not oppose lynching BL. | ||
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On March 21 2012 10:50 Dirk Hardpec wrote: I'm not scum. Who are you? | ||
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Anybody else with a similar role to my own stuck with 1/2 a KP please come out in thread so we can combine our KP and get a day-vig off. There's no reason not to, there's quite a few players I think would be worthy of a vig shot. | ||
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On March 21 2012 15:08 kitaman27 wrote: I'll give you a lemon if I can choose the target. Depends, who's the target? | ||
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I'm not shooting Wiggles for you. (assuming you're going to say that) | ||
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On March 21 2012 15:11 kitaman27 wrote: How does your role work, you just get a day vig for every 2 lemons that are given to you? That doesn't sound like a town role. I'm pretty sure that multiple people have a role like this involving lemons. Hassybaby for example immediately knew I wanted the lemons for a vig shot. | ||
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On March 21 2012 15:14 kitaman27 wrote: So how does it work? 2 lemons = day vig shot? Hassy, what would you be able to do if I gave you my lemon instead? lemons take one phase to develop I could shoot during day/night If you gave me a lemon I wouldn't be able to day-vig today, if there was somebody else with 1/2 a KP that would work with me than I don't have to wait the extra phase to shoot. | ||
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On March 21 2012 16:33 zelblade wrote: If bluelightz has rolled scum before can someone point me to it? Bluelightz was scum in student mafia but he replaced in for hassybaby and it was his first game. | ||
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On March 21 2012 16:41 zelblade wrote: Oh ok thanks I'll take a look when I get home. And grack, any particular reason to believe that others have 0.5 kp besides hassy mentioning lemons? He could easily need them for something else. Seems weird to claim now...? I guess it's more of a hope combined with the fact that I wasn't going to get another one. Cyber Cheese also might have understood that the lemons would be used as a vig shot. | ||
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On March 21 2012 22:16 Palmar wrote: Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff. The best thing is to quietly go along with the flow of the game as long as it suits the, for an example, re-read my case on kitaman, that's hardcore posting without any intention of pushing his lynch. What makes you think Kita is town? What makes anyone think Kita is town? About Grackaroni I'm just not sure. It'd be incredibly stupid to shoot me like he threatened, but it seems like an odd mafia gambit to announce one of their hits, especially since we have no clue how many night hits mafia has. I went after him because I wanted to make sure he couldn't shoot me, I still stand by that notion, when I flip town, if some asshole claims to have shot me, that asshole is almost guaranteed to be scum. But yeah, it still doesn't fit with how I'd expect mafia to play to threaten/claim that shot. So I'm not sure on his alignment. I very much like the fact JJ54 says sinani206 will flip. He is one guy I feel strongly is scum. JJ54 looks very town to me. lazy scum Palmar pretending to be a new player Were lynching you | ||
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On March 22 2012 01:59 Jayjay54 wrote: so you ignore completely ignore his ability? I might add that his abilty is probably town favoured regardless of his alignment. I haven't read yet. I just saw his name and got excited. | ||
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Now, I would rather lynch Palmar because he is a massively underperforming smurfing veteran. The only reads he gave us before I called him out a bunch of times as a veteran were omguses, and he only showed up in the thread when he wanted to defend himself. Did you see the way he walked into the thread 1/2 way through the day, offered nothing new to the discussion, jumped on the obvious 3rd party bandwagon, then disappeared again. This seems like Palmar's scum laziness to the max, only really starting to give off reads after I make it clear that he's not a new player. | ||
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On March 22 2012 02:25 Jayjay54 wrote: See? This is the foolishness case. It is wrong! He was the second player after me to vote Drazek. He didn't join the bandwagon. He started it with me. That post at that time was completely appropriate. He voted Draz for the right reasons way earlier than most of you guys. I don't know why everyone thinks that this post didn't add anything... This is what happens when you take posts out of context. Also palmar: it's sad that I have to defend you here, because you don't care. I don't care if he was the 2nd person on the bandwagon of a claimed 3rd party, he didn't give a shit about scumhunting. If you think he doesn't care then there's probably a reason for that. I was actually hoping that Palmar would be in this game to help lead the town, not anymore. | ||
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On March 22 2012 04:19 MidnightGladius wrote: While you're here, what were you trying to achieve by asking Kenpachi and Grackaroni their roles? Did you think that they would actually give you an answer? By now I've pretty much said every detail of my role lol. Except when talking to kitaman I accidentally left out that I can't transform more than 1 lemon per phase. We don't have much time left, if it becomes abundantly clear that I can't lynch Palmar I will switch because I would rather lynch Bluelightz than no-lynch. | ||
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On March 22 2012 09:08 Bluelightz wrote: GG, I know how you feel grack xD. I don't even know what you mean by this lol. Either way, you're dead so We're done here. | ||
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On March 23 2012 04:50 Velinath wrote: No other uses stated in the sale, hassy Might be anti town, no way to be sure due to anonymity on market. I doubt it is kita though, Palmar's slip should have rwlly given anyone with smurfs (ie companion cub) would normally make people more watchful on what acct they werelogged into there must be some other use for the CC or he wouldn't have bought it no? Seems like a useless thing to buy instead of giving himself a vig shot or tracker ability which you mentioned earlier. | ||
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Kitaman wouldn't lie about going to a hockey game, then forget he's supposed to be gone and accidentally post again on the wrong account. | ||
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After accidentally slipping that he was Dirk, Palmar felt the urge to find a new smurf to play on, and use it to make his lynch target Kitaman look scummy. Another Smurf caught, who's next? (this time I'm just messing around.) | ||
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Might as well confirm it does exactly what Drazerk said. Also I checked Veli's items n1 and he didn't give himself anything | ||
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On April 06 2012 23:19 ghost_403 wrote: Ha! Town win! gg everyone! Had a blast, this was by far the best game of mafia I've played on the forums. Greymist, iGrok and Jitsu, thanks again for hosting! Yup. Amazing setup. Can't wait to read GreYMisT's Blog. Thanks for hosting guys | ||
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