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On November 19 2012 10:24 Promethelax wrote: I'm as in as in can be and I'm glad to see that incontrol isn't the only other guy playing. /in you scare me sometimes. | ||
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is creepy good :p | ||
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On November 19 2012 10:36 Promethelax wrote: ah, a good way. I'm glad. After I died in acme I had a dream where Marv kicked me in the knee and ran away screaming Juuuuuuuuuubjuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuub. Mafia is taking over my brain. wait a sec have you ever met marv in real life how would you know what he looks like? Or did your brain just make an image of marv and you said that is marv? | ||
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Hrm let me think about this for a second??????? hrm who could it possibly me........... Wait a tick fucking me thats who I nominate the perfect one as the leader because he is the best choice. Not only am i town this game i also have a very distinguishable town meta from my scum meta. Also the perfect one is known for his generosity and his fairness i am very active and will be able to keep up with the thread very easily so i will easily take the towns input for selecting my team So vote iamperfection 2012 | ||
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seems towny so far droping reads and giving reasons seems somewhat towny enough this early on. | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:04 Z-BosoN wrote: @iamp I do not doubt your ability to look townie/scummie. I really really doubt your ability to make townreads. im awesome at making town reads brah | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Of course town can type in this thread... Party Leader has the final call though.. If he sheeps off another persons 'vote' without proper reasoning, he really doesnt look like town well if its pretty obvious that two or three guys are town why not put them all in. More town the better right? | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:13 Z-BosoN wrote: That was my original train of thought. But should the decision become the leader's, that puts a TON of pressure on him (if he is very transparent in his thoughts), and helps consolidate our read on said leader. so we need someone who can hadle pressure well??? Once again me GSL II me as scum terrible game but got very dicey towards the end kush my partner started to wet his pants but i stayed calm and cool led to my victory. Another reason to vote me | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:06 goodkarma wrote: Okay. I'm pretty much caught up. I'd like to address several things. First: Yes. I had much better games after that. I hope there's no hard feelings for that particular game, as I played scum about as terribly as I possibly could clamming up when really saying just about anything would have prevented my early lynch. My other two games: In NMM XXIV: The hero that saved the town from a 5-3 MYLO to win the game. In LVII: Mafia suicide bomber. Could have played better but mafia got the win anyway. Rockband mini: I replaced out day one as scum. Never actually checked to see how it ended. Who I would nominate (if not myself): As of right now, my support for a party leader (besides myself) would be sandroba. Sandroba seems to be adopting a solid strategy at present. I wholeheartedly agree with going with the most townie individuals, even if they are inexperienced. We don't know how the minigames are going to work yet, but we do know with 100% certainty that scum will count against their success. In a game where we don't lynch, all we can do is establish who is actually town. It is absolutely ridiculous to nominate people who have both strong scum and town games and are hard to read day one (thinking of Marv). I also completely agree with the suggestion that's been brought up that parties be suggested by those who are hoping to be nominated up-front. This is especially important if we are to nominate a townie who isn't as experienced. Goodkarma for President: As your leader, I will do my best to further the policy of choosing the most obvious townies as detailed above. Along those lines, I would elect to choose both sandroba and promethelax for my party. The third is still tentative, as the game has only been going for a short time. Why would you suggest prom he plays very good regardless of alignment from what i remember. | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:17 Hapahauli wrote: @ iamp Welcome! As distinguishable as you are, that's not the only thing we're looking for in a party leader. I'd prefer someone with a very strong track-record of accurate D1 town reads. You're definitely someone that can be read early and be a party candidate though. knew you would have my back broski | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:22 Keirathi wrote: What is there to explain? Both of those things you bolded say the exact same thing :o i wouldnt say the are the same thing i would say they are diffrent things that dont require in explantion 1. Wont give him a town read untill i think he is town 2. Would give marv your vote if you think he is town. | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:27 Dienosore wrote: I'm friendly and wise, so really there is no reason NOT to vote for me :D oh yeah? Who the fuck are you? | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:30 Dienosore wrote: so much hostility, iamp perhaps you feel threatened that your scummy play for power is being challenged by a random nobody? see there you go thats better | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:34 Clarity_nl wrote: Because if we all have your attitude nothing would get done. yes thats true but what do you think town or scum for him. No noob gonna do what he did right? | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:35 Clarity_nl wrote: If you're new you don't do that, no. But do we know he's not a smurf? because he has a bunch of posts outside of the mafia section of tl. | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:36 Hopeless1der wrote: Greetings all. You'll notice that we're currently in 600 AD Guardia. You're also playing a themed game hosted by none other than Greymist. Please keep that in mind. (Hi Mementoss, you're cool too). Basic vote mechanics for this game seem to boil down to -identify town -vote town to lead the party -Profit -Kill Mafia/Lavos -More Profit What are people's thoughts on claiming that their character belongs to the 600 AD era and selecting the leader based on that. (YOU ONLY CLAIM "600 AD") Possibly selecting the entire party from within the era, assuming enough of a pool emerges. I linked Chronopedia above in case anyone feels the need to check it out. ~17ish native characters from 600 AD. I think our hidden numbers are influenced by the current era, and events can have varying degrees of success or failure depending on which specific players (not just town or scum) are in the party. Come play the setup speculation game with me please! seems like to me your trying to narrow the pool for a reason we don't know is true. | ||
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you were starting to do well what happened? | ||
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ill go with stupid | ||
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For those who have played with me before comment on me. you know i have an easy town meta to read so say what you already know to be true iamperfection should be on the team | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:51 Keirathi wrote: Quit asking for people to read you and play naturally. You did that shit in GSL 3, where you specifically asked me to give a read of you since I am very good at picking up when you are town or not. Just don't. i ask you to give your read on me in almost every game we play. | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:51 Keirathi wrote: Quit asking for people to read you and play naturally. You did that shit in GSL 3, where you specifically asked me to give a read of you since I am very good at picking up when you are town or not. Just don't. so it should be a null tell keir. Not thinking critically are we keir? | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:54 TheChronicler wrote: I think you're reading that wrong. Think marv is town = will vote Thinks marv is scum = will not vote Unsure of marv = will not vote You're not considering the possibility of #3 in your reasoning. You're saying Keir will have the confidence, but he hasn't said that at all. Following quote sums it up. ------------------------------------------ Is there a reason everyone feels the need to shout their town reads this game? ------------------------------------------- How about we don't speculate on setup. What is speculating going to do? It's just an opportunity for scum to mislead us when they shouldn't have that opportunity. is it scummy to say what i think? | ||
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On November 21 2012 14:12 TheChronicler wrote: It's anti-town to give scum information they can use. You just told scum your town read (assuming you're town). Now scum will value killing your town read higher than they would have. Way to go. COOL STORY | ||
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On November 21 2012 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote: WHY I THINK CLARITY IS SCUM He justs posts 1-line comments throughout the whole chronicler incident.. the activity makes people think he is town but he doesnt actually take a stand, just criticized chronicler. Agrees with Hapa, and basically repeats what he and everyone else before said to sound like he is contributing. Then with the Dienosore stuff, he again posts 1 liner’s criticizing deinosore.. The last post with the Diensore actually being stupid, Clarity is asking for advice from town, no willing to take a stand on his own. Keeps tunneling Diensore, an obvious target long after people stopped caring. Tunneling Djo on a minor issue about his assumptions. THIS IS WHY I THINK THAT CLARITY IS SCUM He does that as town on day 1. He just asks questions doesn't take positions. Null tell in my opinion | ||
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On November 21 2012 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont like using meta reads because it could be inaccurate.. It also rely's a lot on experience of the game which I dont have. im just providing an alternative explanation i dont think you can say Clarity is definitely scum regarding his actions so far. | ||
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i should be on the team right. | ||
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so town by the way kid wants to be the leader has provided reads shows a healthy amount of suspicion to other players. Kid should be on team not leader though. | ||
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On November 21 2012 23:52 Oatsmaster wrote: You know when you say things like this, it really makes it hard for me to think that you are town... You repeated what sandro said earlier without giving any reason on why Dieno and me are town... i said dieno was town to that make me scum? | ||
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On November 21 2012 23:54 goodkarma wrote: Clarity has not been very helpful to town thus far, if that's what you were getting at in your case. In a standard game, it would certainly be a bit disconcerting that he has picked easy targets and "safe" conversation points for discussion, but at present I would say this covers the majority of people. In fact, your case ironically is only the third scum case of the game... In this particular game it would seem that people are putting more time presently into determining who their leader should be than determining who's scum. Whether this is right or wrong is a fair point of debate, but as it currently stands Clarity does not stand out to me as scum. I definitely don't like his play to date, but I consider him presently a null read. i disagree We act like a normal game hunt the scum that way easier to pick up who is town. Nominate those people for the team. | ||
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On November 22 2012 00:20 kushm4sta wrote: Holy fuck this thread is so long and 99% of it is about who are we voting leader, which I really don't care about. Not much thought put into this decision but ##vote sandroba Good town, easy to distinguish town from scum. trying to act like shit on purpose kush to match your meta? | ||
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gsl II bad one to use he replaced in and got expert coaching | ||
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leaning scum Shape up kush | ||
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you agree with the expert coaching!!! you just made my day | ||
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On November 22 2012 00:39 Oatsmaster wrote: What. How come you got a read of kush after like 4 posts but have a null read on Clarity with a 3 page filter? its what i do bro also reads subject to change deal with it. | ||
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On November 22 2012 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Also Im thinking that this seems like fishing for information... Clarity stop giving me reasons to think that you are scum. Yes confirmation bias, I would like marv/anyone to comment? seems like to me he is just stating a fact. | ||
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On November 21 2012 23:35 syllogism wrote: Sandroba why do you think Clarity "smells funny"? On November 22 2012 00:27 syllogism wrote: Can someone link me a game where kush is mafia, thanks On November 22 2012 00:37 syllogism wrote: You usually have a million page filter when you are town, I've a hard time believing you find the size taunting. What do you care about then and what are you going to about it? Why do you say sandroba's town play is easy to distinguish from his mafia play, my impression from looney lynching was that you had no idea whether he was town or mafia on day 1 (he got shot n1)? Seems like to me syllogism is trying to figure out other players alignments Also he has been shuting down useless setup speculation and encouraging people to scum hunt seems town enough for me. Also On November 22 2012 01:00 syllogism wrote: Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing has knowledge about chrono trigger which cant hurt ## Vote Syllogism | ||
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On November 22 2012 01:18 kushm4sta wrote: I'm here to hunt scum and win. The theme is fine but I think it's a mistake to play into it too much. Do people honestly think we lose if we don't pick town as our leaders? I don't. Kush's Plan Everyone Should Follow First night it doesn't matter who we pick since we don't know the nature of the event. Nights after, we pick the scummiest or towniest depending on what the first event is like. In between we do normal scumhunting and ignore the theme. it says right in the op the more town the better chance the event is a success. It then says not surprisingly that failure is bad. I don't think we are taking a leap here thinking the more town the better. | ||
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On November 22 2012 02:01 CaveJohnson wrote: At least do the simple research on the game... Anyway I dislike the dinosaur guy his early posts were all fluff his election campaign is a bigger joke than his reads (Intending to completely waste his vote) and he used the newbie excuse which is generally enough excuse to shoot someone. So you think a noob scum is blatantly going to come into the tread in the way he did? | ||
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On November 22 2012 05:25 syllogism wrote: kush4masta you stealth voted sandroba, which isn't a big deal as you already voted in the thread, but it indicates that you have been around and yet haven't addressed my questions. Usually it's hard to keep you from posting, but in this game you haven't even begun playing? Why is that? i agree with this. Usually we cant shut you up kush what gives? | ||
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On November 22 2012 04:11 strongandbig wrote: ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yeah I can assert this too, doesn't make it true or useful um it is actually true ask anybody. | ||
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On November 22 2012 05:38 Keirathi wrote: If a townie has a low "success modifier". I could see him not wanting to be picked especially in the early game where its much more likely that a scum (or two) are picked for the team inadvertently and it could cause mission loss. What are you talking about? | ||
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do you know your success modifier? | ||
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On November 22 2012 05:47 Acrofales wrote: Don't ask me. I think you're scum. You have been completely useless all game and if other people's assessments of your meta are any good, then your town meta is to be constructive rather than yell at the top of your lungs that you're town. My only experience with you was in Caller's failed game, where you were a veteran vampire cult, so I won't go on my own experience playing with you. oh really would you point to something specific then. | ||
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On November 22 2012 05:49 Keirathi wrote: I don't know "My 'success modifier' is 3." But I do know that I have a low success modifier. so obviously we shouldn't put you on the team then. How do you know its low? | ||
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On November 22 2012 05:57 Clarity_nl wrote: I, for one, would like Cave to get out of himself and answer my questions. i giggled | ||
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On November 22 2012 05:59 Acrofales wrote: [/spoiler]You are wanting me to quote the absense of useful posts by you? How am I supposed to do that? If you want examples of you yelling at the top of your lungs that you're town, here's a brief compilation: [spoiler="IAMTOWN!!!1111"] Not only am I town, but everybody can see that I'm town from my meta!!! Not seeing it yet... Call me town, pretty please? Dude, I'm town AND awesome! I am town and I can write it in BIG BLACK BOLD LETTERS!!!111 Please Marv, please call me town? Given that the rest of your filter is almost all meaningless banter, I fail to see how anybody could get a town read from this if your normal town meta is to be constructive. So don't you "ask anybody in the thread" on me as if you are confirmed town. You're not, shape up and stop looking scummy. if you really want to figure me out go do some research and come back later. Also this day is half political campaign / scum hunting deal with it. I got some nuggets in there you just ignored them so tl dr you shape up | ||
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that shit was enough to give you a town read on marv thats an insult to marv imo | ||
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anyone giving you scum feels i know you said town hunting more important but you must have something. | ||
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On November 22 2012 06:32 kushm4sta wrote: I didn't stealth vote, really. It's just that I forgot to use the voting thread before. And yeah I am here lurking. I'm trying to keep up with the thread. It's hard. Why aren't I posting that much? Well I'm kind of lost. i haven't been reading super closely and this is my first game that's themed so heavily. Any other questions? I love answering questions. yeah whats wrong whats the deal usually your in everyones face and you do follow the thread why are you not? | ||
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On November 22 2012 06:41 kushm4sta wrote: I JUST answered that question. I don't know how I can answer it better. WELL im saying go read closely | ||
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What do you think of bios town read on you. I think it is bs and it seems like to me it was a pre calculated move to come into the thread with. I dont see how anyone can drop a strong town read and i can see you easily saying that quote in his post regardless of alignment Bios post also doesn't say much at all just that he doesn't have a problem what is going on. Im thinking scum | ||
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On November 22 2012 06:45 BioSC wrote: @Clarity I give my thoughts on what we are doing (Electing a party leader, something we need TOWN reads for), and I give my reads on whom I believe are town right now. Are they based on little info? Yes. Can they change with newer/better info? Yes, but since I agree with what they've said so far, I haven't had a reason to color them red right now. As for the quirp about not scumhunting while scumhunting, that's not what I said. I said, while the focus is on electing a mayor, we should at least try to elect a town. As I believe winning events is crucial to winning the game (almost as much as a lynch, since it is in place of one afaik.) Electing people I believe to be town and having them bring people I also believe to be town makes for a high chance of success. What's not to get? your town read on marv is bs | ||
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Could you explain that a little better | ||
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On November 22 2012 13:28 kitaman27 wrote: My proposed party: Myself - You guys still have more than two options for leader Acrofales - Acro has been quite opinionated and appears to care about the outcome of the event. I like that he tries to open the game with a plan (even if his choices were premature) and he is attempting to direct discussion. Dienosore - I'd take a Frog over a Toad by my side any day. Ignoring the first few trollish posts, I find his posts sincere. Something that caught my attention was your instance that you be the party leader, which leads me to worry that your insistence to be elected may be role related. Would you be content as a member of the party, rather than the leader? Promethelax - Maybe the weakest preference of the four, but I'm usually pretty trusting of a player that is trying to come up with a way to use the setup to benefit the town. Even though I disagree with the idea, I like the effort. Of his remaining posts, nothing has jumped out to me as something to worry about. Of course these four selections are subject to change as the game goes on. Do I really not have any votes? I could get behind this if you remove prom for someone else. I've said dieno is town and i like acros aggression against me. Prom is a little too skilled for both alignments for my taste. | ||
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On November 23 2012 00:38 Dienosore wrote: I hope I haven't committed suicide with this post :X Alright, guys. I've been doing a lot of watching these past 30~ pages or so. I've come up with this aggregate system that isn't based around calling people towny or scum, but rather personal interactions. Using my extraordinary abilities to decipher what people mean rather than what they say, I've drawn out what I think is turning out to be a very interesting relationship map, and here it is: The wiggly lines show hate/distrust, while the straight lines show some sort of companionship. There are a few other types of lines in there that represent different things, but I don't really feel like going into depth about every little mark. From this, I am able to extrapolate what I see into a larger picture. The only things that really set off flags for me are these: - Djodref and Goodkarma coming up as strong scumreads. - Kitaman drawing a lot of attention for little reason. - CaveJohnson coming up as scummy. - Iamperfection being indicated in secret relationships with SnB and CaveJohnson. I've also spotted some sort of mysterious link between Promethelax/Kushm4sta, Promethelax/Kitaman, and Risk.Nuke/Promethelax. I find it hard to think townies would be forming these sort of clandestine connections this early in the game, though it does not necessarily make them scum. There is always the possibility of a third party out there. Right now, I havn't really made any clear towny reads using this map other than Syllo. Sandroba was clear town for me until Syllo raised some suspicion with his >50% remark. Another flag is the sudden surge of support for Kitaman27 from people who I've dubbed as suspicious. What's also interesting is who is not on the map. BioSC caught a bit of negative attention from Iamperfection early on, then sort of disappeared. Not sure what this means. Alright that's all I have for now. Looking through all my info, it's pretty clear that I'm not going to be first leader, and that's fine with me. I just hope I get in the party and survive the night. well now it all makes sense | ||
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On November 23 2012 00:55 marvellosity wrote: I might as well say now, I do plan on running for party leader in the coming days if I'm around to do so. i would currently oppose this you have not looked super town yet in my eyes. sorry buddy. | ||
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[b]## vote hapa [b//] | ||
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On November 23 2012 05:48 marvellosity wrote: what matters? it matters that we know you're sending in your night actions? Shhhhhhhh | ||
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@MarvI on scale of 1 to 10 How important are you to town (this is a seerious question deall with it) | ||
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On November 24 2012 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote: @Iamp Why are you asking Marv that? how does this help town in ANY WAY? Isnt better to ask marv how he is important to town? was i talking to you? shush me and marv are talking | ||
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On November 24 2012 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote: @Iamp Why are you asking Marv that? how does this help town in ANY WAY? Isnt better to ask marv how he is important to town? also i am not interested on how he is important | ||
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On November 24 2012 00:25 marvellosity wrote: I'm always important to town, dear. Your question has a bunch of hidden implications that I'd much rather you came straight out with Also for anyone having douubts this is town marv again his hearts in it oncce again right marv?? | ||
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On November 24 2012 00:04 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm not sure. If I had to pick I'd lean Bio. I still don't really buy Hapa's townread on GK though. I would like someone else who's played with GK to confirm he's playing to his town meta. did you go look at bios other games? | ||
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On November 24 2012 00:41 Clarity_nl wrote: Can't say that I have, no. That's why I said "if I had to pick" really all we have against him at this point is that his marv read (at the time) was bs | ||
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On November 24 2012 10:39 Dienosore wrote: Also, who is this VE guy, and why do you all immediately start calling him by a nickname? Should I be concerned? yes | ||
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On November 24 2012 14:33 goodkarma wrote: Association based scum read on two unflipped players? Even a scrub like me knows that's sloppy play... -_- Sloppy but is it scummy? Go look at the orginal plan that chronicle thought was good in his mind. He believed that it would give the most information to town for whatever reason and now he has people saying he was scum for just coming up with. I dont see how he could manipulate the process in his orginal plan if everyone was dumping reads all over the place what would be the scum motivation for that in day 1 i dont see it. People being as open as possible is basically what he advocated and plan. Now the contradiction comes from nothing to do with the plan. I dropped the town read not in any part of a plan or for the election of any kind and i didn't advocate dino being on the team to a little later. that what it looks like to me that chronicle was getting all worked up to me was that i just dropped the read with small reasoning like i usally do and it upset him. So i think the situation is being misrepresented. | ||
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On November 24 2012 14:40 TheChronicler wrote: 1) anyone saying they have a strong read d1 is lying. I made a decision based on small things, yup. thats bs though i get very strong reads on day 1 all the time. your just wrong here. | ||
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i think we already been through that it was a shit plan. he thought it would give him a bunch of information for whatever reason the question is does it make him scum. I think his somewhat stubbornness revolving around the plan is the better tell as he pushed it somewhat early on and even tried to modify to get it to work. He clearly thought it was good and somewhat still good in his mind. I think if he was scum he would more of just went with the flow I think that he is more likely to be town. | ||
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On November 24 2012 14:49 TheChronicler wrote: You're lucky with your day 1 reads then. It's either horrible scum or pure luck. With nothing to go on and no real interactions no scum should slip up that early. Strongly disagree. your an idiot | ||
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On November 24 2012 14:49 TheChronicler wrote: You're lucky with your day 1 reads then. It's either horrible scum or pure luck. With nothing to go on and no real interactions no scum should slip up that early. Strongly disagree. i was able to catch hapa in two diffrent games from basically the sum of like 5 total posts from him so your just wrong. | ||
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On November 24 2012 14:59 Djodref wrote: I disagree. As scum, I would have come with a bad plan and tried to push for it. Does his plan have any sense from a town perspective ? His plan doesn't help us to assure the event success. His plan doesn't help us to find town players. His plan doesn't really help us to find mafia players. The only thing is plan does is giving us some irrelevant information. His plan was made so he couldn't be elected and so he looked like this bad guy with poor ideas and poor logic. Or he is just a guy with poor ideas and poor logic with one year experience on mafia forums. Not buying it. im pretty sure your not him Im looking more at his tone and his agression in it. He clearly thinks it was good in his mind. Does that make him scum? i dont think so | ||
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On November 24 2012 14:59 Djodref wrote: I disagree. As scum, I would have come with a bad plan and tried to push for it. Does his plan have any sense from a town perspective ? His plan doesn't help us to assure the event success. His plan doesn't help us to find town players. His plan doesn't really help us to find mafia players. The only thing is plan does is giving us some irrelevant information. His plan was made so he couldn't be elected and so he looked like this bad guy with poor ideas and poor logic. Or he is just a guy with poor ideas and poor logic with one year experience on mafia forums. Not buying it. his pushing of it and aggression in it suggests he actually did want to be elected | ||
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On November 24 2012 15:02 goodkarma wrote: There will be plenty of time to show off your e-peen post game. Who is your top scum read right now, and why? i would probably just sheep the sandroba lynch at this point. I dont feel real good about it but ill take a closer look tomorrow before i cast a vote and can dive through more filters as well as his past games. pass my bed time now. | ||
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On November 25 2012 06:40 kitaman27 wrote: An option we have is to put the lynch on someone like cave, nuke, hopeless or thechronicler, switch back to sandroba if he shows up within the last hour, or nuke him tonight if the switch back is unsuccessful. Are people willing to switch? im always up for shenanigans. I would be against lynching thechronicler and hopeless though Cronicler for reasons i have stated earlier Hopeless has been fairly active for himself i would have to take more closer look at his actual content | ||
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On November 25 2012 07:00 Keirathi wrote: How the hell do you KNOW that syllo is town? He's not confirmed town by any means. hes probably making an assumption based on the mission success. | ||
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On November 25 2012 02:30 Toadesstern wrote: If that's how you feel you should probably vote me. Saves me a lot of trouble. On November 25 2012 03:16 Toadesstern wrote: Acro sweetie do me a favor and vote me or I'll do stupid things. | ||
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On November 25 2012 07:03 CaveJohnson wrote: Don't give him ideas for an excuse... you know when people tell me to do something i usually don't listen. | ||
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On November 25 2012 07:07 CaveJohnson wrote: That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post. almost as silly as pointing it out | ||
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On November 25 2012 07:13 goodkarma wrote: My mind is blown that with an hour left to go people nitpick over things like this when really the only question you should be asking is: Sandroba or Toad? Really? your suggesting we shouldn't be still scumhunting and have tunnel vision. Keriharti nitpicking and aggression there is also a town tell in my view. He is suspicious in a good way. Your point there was scummy as shit. You think we should have blinders on right now really? | ||
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On November 25 2012 07:18 Clarity_nl wrote: Marv if something happens tonight other than you taking damage please do not share that fact, I might rely on it later. wait what? | ||
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On November 25 2012 07:20 Clarity_nl wrote: I have to agree, we're way past the point of scumhunting, we can return to that tomorrow. Right now people need to decide, Sandro or Toad wat how can you say that after mario | ||
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On November 25 2012 07:22 Djodref wrote: Bowser Hapahauli random lynch in 5 minutes. Never forget. Anything can happen ^^ i take offense to the word random in that sentence | ||
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On November 25 2012 07:24 Clarity_nl wrote: Random as fuck. As for the other thing, can't tell you. uh will you be able to tell later? (for reasons i cant tell you) | ||
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On November 25 2012 17:39 syllogism wrote: I read that, but does it unambiguously say that he used the same ability on me on n1 and n2 i don't see anything about his n2 action | ||
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On November 25 2012 18:02 Djodref wrote: My objection is that I don't want ton concentrate too much of the town assets on newbie players like you. I don't want to loose too much when the mafia or Lavos manage to kill you or Dieno. why are we making an assumption that the assets would be better in their hands anyways? Also why would the mafia have an easier time killing oats or anyone else for that matter? 1. we dont know if a so called vet having the item is any better than a so called newer player 2. we dont know the roles of our fellow members that could be more beneficial against the lavos. | ||
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On November 25 2012 18:04 Djodref wrote: Yes, I'm not going to reveal him at all ^^ then you wont have my vote and i dont think you will get anyone else's vote. | ||
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On November 26 2012 04:49 Hopeless1der wrote: No, but it does reinforce the idea that characters from the corresponding era and their being main characters has a chance (however slim) of improving our party's chance at success beyond that of simply 'being town'. i agree with this. This is also why any party with out oats is stupid imo. | ||
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On November 25 2012 16:38 Dienosore wrote: Im not going to tell you how much dmg I took last night, sorry, djo. That being said, here is the claimed dmg report so far: + Show Spoiler + Happahauli : 100 dmg Kitaman27 : 50 dmg Iamp : 30 dmg + a heal Acro : 30 dmg Djo : 30 dmg Clarity : 30 dmg Also, here is a list of notable claims and developments: + Show Spoiler + - prome claims marv targeted syllo with a spell - marv says hes a medic - kita says new game is if hapa, oats, or phagga vote for him, he dmgs ppl - keirathi claims to be 600ad char, possibly medic? - oats claims robo and has multiple abilities - Thechronicler claims he can see if two people are the same alignment, incriminated toad - acro knows chronicler is being truthful, doesnt want to come into the group, says toad is queen zeal - toad claims johnny, the attention whore robot, going to use 200 hp heal, redistrubute hp by hitting people, exposed as queen zeal scum by acro nvm found it | ||
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On November 26 2012 10:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Im back. My Current Party will be Clarity Dien Marv Me. Any issues you guys want my opinion on? its good | ||
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On November 26 2012 10:37 Hapahauli wrote: Yes, but the self-criticism is still really strange when compared to his past games. Like his activity this game is actually an improvement over other games I've seen him play in. In those other, less-active games, he's far less apologetic for his behavior. Even as a blue role (vigi in Mario Mini), he was pretty un-apologetic about his early-game lurkiness. well i disagree On November 21 2012 23:54 Hopeless1der wrote: I'd just like to apologize for turning back into a lurker. I'm sure that's pissed some people off given that I'm pretty much confirmed town and doing nothing more to help. I wholeheartedly would vouch for iamperfection being town this game. But he is the only player 'eligible' for lynch that I am that confident in. I'm going to re-read all of day1 in as much context as I can before the deadline and hopefully have some concrete reads on who is still alive. if anything hopeless is very aware of how he looks to the rest of the town so it doesn't bother me he said that he looks scummy at all. | ||
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On November 27 2012 00:44 marvellosity wrote: iamp, stop being petulant and if you're town do something useful with your ability. Well me stopping him from hurting me would be good for town wouldn't it. | ||
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On November 27 2012 01:04 Djodref wrote: Could you realize that I'm just waiting for you to contribute constructively as any townie should do ? That's all I'm waiting from you. Do that and block whoever you think it is in the best interest of town to block. I offer you a chance to prove me that you are town lets just say djo i have seen things that make it difficult for me to contribute in my normal way. Also your pretty smart djo look through my filter you can figure it out. Also Clarity and marv would be on my do not lynch ever list for this game. | ||
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On November 27 2012 01:38 Acrofales wrote: I decided I hate Prom and Iamperfection for hiding obvious crumbs to things that I don't understand. i love you 2 | ||
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On November 27 2012 01:35 Djodref wrote: Who would you like to lynch tomorrow if Toad dies tonight ? What do you think about Prom ? i could get behind a ve lynch his not posting at all is not like him. i dont have many strong feelings on prom. For what its worth i have had somewhat of a history of not being able to read him. In the famous restart newbie game i thought he was scum both games and i was right once and wrong once. Nothing about him screams scum to me. Plus he was able to explain himself quite clearly in his defense from what i remember of it | ||
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On November 27 2012 07:37 Djodref wrote: @iamp: I know you are lurking and reading this, I'll give you a pass for this time I don't see any particular reason for me to be dead tomorrow morning so my "last will" is just going to be "blame marv if the event fail". Joking aside, I'm really expecting the event to succeed. I've added two players in my shot possibilities, on top of VE and S&B. Players that I consider mafia players imo. Not telling who but I'll tell you tomorrow ^^ lurk also you will be giving me a pass until the end of the game if you know whats good for you | ||
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On November 27 2012 07:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Djo, dont do things just because you are emotional, think it through and shoot your TOP scumread, other than Toad. he was already lectured i trust djo will think it through Right djo? | ||
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On November 27 2012 10:10 Dienosore wrote: Alright guys, I'm going to run for group leader again unless it's obviously clear I should vote for someone else. I was healed last night, so I'm not really that scared of dying anymore. Here is my proposed group: Oats/Syllo/Keirathi Unless I missed something, we are still in 2300ad, so Robo(oats) will probably continue to be beneficial to the party. Syllo is a shoo-in based on his performances d1/d2. Keirathi has expressed his desire to be in the group so he may use his abilities and was cleared on d1 group. Any objections? Suggestions? i support this | ||
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On November 27 2012 10:19 TheChronicler wrote: Why clarity over Keir, please read my posts on the matter. im pretty sure clarity knows that im town and vice versa. | ||
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On November 27 2012 10:19 Hopeless1der wrote: I want to vote Toad purely out of spite. No one is confirmed anything except for marv and kush. Hey Toad, you still need a vote to prevent damage? stop being silly | ||
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On November 27 2012 10:23 Acrofales wrote: Also, if every cycle is one hop in time, this game is gonna take one helluva long time From here it's to 1000 AD, then 600 AD, 1000 AD again, then prehistory, quick stop in 1000 AD again, then back to 600 AD (where Dieno might get his sword), prehistory again, and that's only as far as I have gotten into Chrono Trigger so far. Maybe we get lynches in 1000 AD? im not that well versed in chrono but how important would dieno be in terms of the game? Like should it be a super important goal for him to survive as long as possible? | ||
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On November 27 2012 09:55 Hopeless1der wrote: No record of a heal. I took 75 damage. I think I was healed, but the amount doesn't match Toad's claim. What do you mean think | ||
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On November 27 2012 12:01 Hapahauli wrote: EDIT: Gah posted Newbie game stuff in wrong thread. SOrries! thats bs live with your shame | ||
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On November 27 2012 10:33 iamperfection wrote: Actually answer this hopeless were you healed or not i don't see why you would say think. hopeless answer this please | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Ehhhh. You're a hard one to figure out for me. Really i thought you had more info on that. | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:24 Clarity_nl wrote: I had a 1-shot HP check and used it on marv and cycle 1 he was 250. I healed him for 200 with a 1-shot cycle 2. When I used the hp check I was not expecting everyone to claim damage taken but it makes sense in hindsight. ??? that's not what i was expecting | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:28 Clarity_nl wrote: Ah, that does make sense. But I didn't know about you healing marv so... which means i have wasted my heal twice now i was healing hapa day 1 and he didn't report being healed which means he took no damage. | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:29 Clarity_nl wrote: Does anyone want to counter-claim iamp healing me? you dont believe me | ||
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On November 27 2012 10:17 iamperfection wrote: Oh clarity would be a great pick to i think for party. You feel up for it clarity? How you feel better? | ||
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On November 24 2012 00:18 iamperfection wrote: So i went through biosc games and i have noticed that he tends not be an activity fiend to begin with in really all of his games so i dont know what to think of him anymore. I want to hear more from him before i pass judgement. Also he has disappeared completely once before (with justification) so couple that with thanksgiving today i don't really make that big a deal of him disappearing. @MarvI on scale of 1 to 10 How important are you to town (this is a seerious question deall with it) marv i heal his own breadcrumb that he uses. I'm pretty sure he saw it. | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:31 Clarity_nl wrote: I healed him this cycle and he didn't mention it. What do you think of that? you would have to ask him i thought your heal was 1 shot? | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote: I asked the host if you still get notified of your heal or not, waiting for a response. I'm all out of heals now though, guys, so you're on your own TT only if it does actual healing | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:43 Clarity_nl wrote: You mind telling me how much you healed me for? i sort of don't. | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:47 Hapahauli wrote: I assure you I was. If you don't believe me, I claimed 100 damage pretty early on in the cycle and Toad mentioned he shot me as a "+EV shot" or something (before he was confirmed scum to the thread). So where's the theory here? That Toad and I are scumbuddies? That he didn't just shoot me in self-preservation after I was one of the few to press for his lynch D2? then why didn't you report my heal? | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:47 Hapahauli wrote: I assure you I was. If you don't believe me, I claimed 100 damage pretty early on in the cycle and Toad mentioned he shot me as a "+EV shot" or something (before he was confirmed scum to the thread). So where's the theory here? That Toad and I are scumbuddies? That he didn't just shoot me in self-preservation after I was one of the few to press for his lynch D2? also way to go super defensive i was just stating facts. | ||
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On November 27 2012 23:52 Acrofales wrote: Okay, the numbers are bothering me. Someone said this may have come late, because the daypost came late. However, I really don't think that's the case. The number came half an hour after the post. Time between the two: 10 hours, or if we need precise: 595 minutes. Time between the two: 12 hours, or more precise: 719 minutes. Time between the two: 14 hours, or more precise: 833 minutes. Time between the two: 11 hours, or more precise: 674 minutes. It is now coming up on 15 hours since the 6 was posted. I see no sensible pattern here. Hassy's post implies that the timing was preordained, so not dependent on something happening in the thread. If this is either a puzzle, or something we will have to respond to, it is worthwhile figuring it out. I see no reason to post the numbers unless we are supposed to do something with them (although the "what" may only become apparent later). My role gives no hints at all. Anybody else have a clue? any countdown in the game at any point? | ||
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On November 28 2012 00:26 Hapahauli wrote: Because I didn't receive notification of a heal >> So either a) You didn't heal me (but I don't know why you'd lie about that) b) I took more than 100 damage uh let me go check something. From my understanding you receive a notification as long as the heal does actual healing. | ||
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On November 28 2012 01:01 Acrofales wrote: Anybody need to kill the Golem Overlord? Chronopedia mentions he has a countdown. That is the only one I can find. Fuck it, lets try ##kill Golem Overlord Note, I do not have this ability in my role pm and have no clue whether it'll work or not, but it's the only thing related to a countdown I can find. It is pure speculation. i will give you so many e-sports dollars if that actually works | ||
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On November 28 2012 01:13 Hapahauli wrote: Oh 'doh sorry I keep mixing up my days. I took 0 damage D1, 100 damage D2 50 damage D3 Forgot D1 existed for some reason >> All I know is that I received a PM after Day 2 stating I took 100 damage Then I received a PM after D3 stating I took 50. I'm grateful that you guys healed me, but either I didn't receive the heal or I simply took a but-load of damage on those days. I'm thinking the latter. i healed you day 1 so it was wasted | ||
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On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote: I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies. I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out. it was day 1 nobody was semi confirmed. | ||
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On November 28 2012 01:25 Hapahauli wrote: Well both of those guys (clarity and iamp) have town reads on me, so the heals make sense from that perspective. From what I understand: Post-D1: I took 0 damage. Either iamp's claimed heal was completely wasted OR it nullified any damage directed towards me. Post-D2: I took 100 damage. No one healed me (or no one has claimed so), and Toad claimed he shot me for 100. Post-D3: I took 50 damage, and nl_clarity healed me for an undisclosed amount, indicating that I took more than 50 damage. you are not listening. say you took 20 dmg and i healed you. You would get you took 20 dmg and you were healed you took no damage cycle1 | ||
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On November 28 2012 01:33 Acrofales wrote: Also, stop shitting up the thread repeating yourselves over and over and OVER about who healed what damage when and having a clusterfuck of miscommunication. What I am FAR more interested in is knowing why Iamperfection thought Hapa would need healing D1. I was drunk at the pats jets game on thanksgiving i monitored the thread from my phone saw some of hapas post decided fuck it looks town enough for me and did what i did. I originally was going to heal sylo i switched it. | ||
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On November 28 2012 02:25 Hapahauli wrote: @ iamp Acro made a comment on wanting to hear an explanation about you healing me D1, and I'm inclined to agree. You had a really strong town read on me D1... ...however it's pretty unexplained. Is you being drunk Thanksgiving the only explanation you have for this (both the town-read and the heal)? Needless to say it's not very convincing. Uh the truth is unsatisfying? Deal with it. I regret that decision i should have healed sylo. My other 2 heals make perfect sense. I had a extremely strong town reads on clarity_nl and Marv. They both reported being healed. So i dont really care for what your getting at. if you think im scum explain it please. | ||
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On November 28 2012 05:46 Promethelax wrote: I plan on targeting a member of the party or the party leader with my first ability tonight. I will not reveal my target so that mafia is forced to claim their roleblocks. and what if someone would like to heal a party member or leader? | ||
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On November 28 2012 08:04 Djodref wrote: Disclaimer: Dieno is already taken care of ! It looks like Dieno is a serious contender for the title of party leader today. I don't want people to waste heals or protections on him because I have already used a retroactive ability on him which totally protects him. I have already saved him during the second cycle I believe. So now you are free to use your abilities on someone else ^^ I aslo would like Dieno to consider taking me instead of TC on his party because I'm not fully trusting TC yet (hence my vote on Keirathi) but I'm not going to fight for it because Dieno's party is likely to succeed already imo. um.... ok i guess | ||
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On November 28 2012 08:49 Hapahauli wrote: Was just curious and probing. Went through your filter in the last few hours and I'm pretty sure you're town. Have some reads on the lurkers pending for a post tonight. really i think i have been playing bad the things in my filter shouldn't make you think i'm town. My claims and damage reports should make you think it. | ||
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On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote: My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now... In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist: 1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out. 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... 3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar... 4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too. 5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party 6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later... 7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter. 8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...). 9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions. 10) Toad - Scum 11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read... ya don't listen to this at all shoot the scum | ||
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On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote: 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... And i cant believe you said something like this im gonna have to go through your entire filter when i have time | ||
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On November 28 2012 10:07 goodkarma wrote: That might be the first productive thing you've done all game... Care to explain in what universe that it would be good idea that you think its a good idea to shoot ve if you think he is more likely to be town. | ||
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On November 28 2012 10:13 goodkarma wrote: And which scum exactly would you propose we shoot then? All the people I proposed have a decent chance of flipping scum. you literally said ve is likely to be town shoot him first. And your asking a stupid question. I have no idea what town kp we have. Those vigs should decide. If you can kill toad they should do it. Other than that they should just attack their scum reads. i would shoot toad and then cave and then you if you keep it up | ||
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On November 28 2012 10:18 goodkarma wrote: He is gone. Absent. Nonpresent. I actually don't know much about his meta outside of what I've heard of his reputation here, so that was speculation. He could be town. He could be scum. But come endgame, there's no way of knowing. Therefore, he has to go. so maybe you should do some research non talking ve isn't like ve at all either way. Just because its different it doesn't mean he is scum | ||
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On November 28 2012 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote: My activity is going to be spotty for at least a week...is that what you're asking? I don't know how long this game is going to last, but I'll be posting at full strength after next weekend. In the meantime I'll post what I can when I can and make no promises. Did you need something in particular iamp? No, not really. Just hoping to see more ve | ||
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On November 29 2012 10:30 Toadesstern wrote: and I've got way more thatn 700HP. it's in the 4 digits. ok just stop the noose is all that awaits you | ||
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On November 29 2012 12:18 Promethelax wrote: fix your tags so I can read anything in there. this its unreadable just fix it | ||
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On November 29 2012 13:04 goodkarma wrote: Might as well roleclaim now: My name is Fiona. I have a vigilante-type role. Night 3, I was responsible for 150 points of damage on CaveJohnson. So here's what I propose: 1) You see if anyone comes forward to counterclaim the damage. 2) If someone does one of us is scum. Lynch accordingly. 3) If not, I am incredibly tired of having to deal with ignorant people... I'm going to role claim now, so that later as confirmed town I'm entitled to draw giant pictures of dinosaurs, and run around failing parties like I've been lobotomized. See you guys later after I've calmed down. what about night 1 and 2? | ||
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On November 29 2012 13:04 goodkarma wrote: 3) If not, I am incredibly tired of having to deal with ignorant people... I'm going to role claim now, so that later as confirmed town I'm entitled to draw giant pictures of dinosaurs, and run around failing parties like I've been lobotomized. crybaby | ||
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On November 29 2012 13:08 Promethelax wrote: I do. I've posted them before but yeah, I want some input though because I am made out of paranoia and might just be totally wrong. (if you aren't sure about how paranoid I am go look at ACME where I intentionally got Acro to roleclaim roleblocker so that scum would kill him if he was town). i will have to look at it tomorrow but from my natural reading of the thread i have seen nothing. | ||
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On November 29 2012 23:11 Clarity_nl wrote: Because regardless of if you take damage or not, you get told that you get healed. So if hapa, as scum, got healed, why would he not say it? Thats not what i was told. I thought the heal had to do actual healing. | ||
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On November 30 2012 00:11 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm not sure because we need to think about who might die this cycle. If it was guaranteed that the following people would survive it would be: Dieno Oats Djodref bro come on | ||
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On November 30 2012 01:36 Toadesstern wrote: [/center]Toad and Greymist playing Dota: [center[ See how much I troll Greymist? Do you really want to lynch someone who's trolling the host? + Show Spoiler + No idea why the colors are fucked up + Show Spoiler + Also forgot wether or not I already posted, so making sure I'm not getting modkilled :3 lol so much fail | ||
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On November 30 2012 01:38 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm really glad you posted a gif without a spoiler. opps | ||
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On November 30 2012 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I have an ability where I restore 25% of the target's max health. I tried to restore Dino's health last night. I was roleblocked. Djo was that because of your ability | ||
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## Vote Party Clairty_nl ## Lynch toad | ||
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On November 30 2012 06:08 Dienosore wrote: Although we know toad is scum, I'm not entirely sure we should lynch him tonight. What if he was lying about his HP? I kinda figure I have a lot of HPs, and a blow like that wouldn't have killed me either. It would have dropped me down to relatively nothing, though. We don't seem to be getting many opportunities to lynch, so we have to be very careful how we spend these cycles. If my hunch is right and Toad is very close to dying, then it would be pretty wasteful to lynch him instead of another highly suspected scumball. (ie. Hopeless1nder?). no | ||
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On November 30 2012 06:10 Keirathi wrote: How do you know he even took the damage? Or how much he took? He's scum that has been caught. It would 100% make sense for him to lie about unverifiable things. and this is why | ||
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On November 30 2012 06:40 syllogism wrote: Hapa: that post reads like it was written out of obligation rather than out of genuine interest. Anyway, hope you realize you are never going to be included in the party until a role that explains why you didn't receive a PM about the heal flips. Clarity: did you get an answer regarding full hp healing yet? i think we already covered this you would only get notification of heal it it does actual healing so if your full hp and get healed no notification. | ||
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On November 30 2012 07:38 Hapahauli wrote: Oh and looks like phagga dropped in. Just look at his reply to Z-Bo... "Oh noes someone built a case on me! Fuck you i'll never play with you again!" it was bad form by zbos no matter what way you look at it. | ||
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On November 30 2012 09:01 Hapahauli wrote: And will someone read my goddamn case on Phagga already? The fact that a bunch of near-confirmed townies are herp-derping around is maddening. we read its just hard to trust the speaker. You can complain about it all you want but which you gonna do | ||
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On November 30 2012 09:03 Clarity_nl wrote: You scared me there iamp, thought I was pulling a Dieno. @ Hapa It's late, and I don't want to go through phagga's filter. Setup speculation is easy, and in a themed game it is also useful to an extent. You wanna be pissed go right ahead but it's not helping anyone. THINGS happened and you are at the shitty end of it at the moment, just keep doing what you're doing because no one is going to lynch you on this alone. I do however plan on reading phagga's and your filter tomorrow and try to get to some conclusions. Even Keir's "leaning scum" wasn't solely off of the setup stuff, so take a breath. maybe you should send actions in now you can always change it | ||
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On November 30 2012 09:05 Clarity_nl wrote: What, just in case I get trapped down a hole for 24 hours? Ye of little faith well ya. wouldn't want your demise getting in the way of victory | ||
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On November 30 2012 09:41 GreYMisT wrote: Bit late but 0 may god have mercy on us all | ||
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On November 30 2012 09:44 kitaman27 wrote: Muahaha Kita wins! :o so you are third party | ||
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Still is kind of silly because if he believes that could actually happen he would be for all intents and purposes be voting for himself. | ||
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On November 30 2012 22:55 iamperfection wrote: prom what was your action cycle 2? and i know you said you forgot to send the action im asking if your sure | ||
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On December 01 2012 01:19 phagga wrote: Just a thought: is it possible that scum has an ability to reverse the voting list? Meaning the guy with the least votes gets llynched/leader? dont even see how that would work what would you do with all the people with 0 votes? | ||
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My comment is that i dont really see how this is problem with this state of the game since it has been somewhat determined who is town and third party through verifiable claims and strong meta reads. I dont see how this is a scum tell at this point in the game. | ||
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On December 01 2012 01:41 Dienosore wrote: Except you fail to mention that you put that exact same list in the mason qt before you posted it here. Now, I'm not sure why you felt the need to throw all that info to the public? Giving cases on scum is fine, but copy/pasting your notepad list of reads on half of the people of the game just doesn't make sense to me... Maybe you were scared Syllo was going to expose it, and so you decided to post here in the forums before he did as a bit of damage control? when did he post it in the qt? | ||
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On December 01 2012 03:48 Acrofales wrote: Yeah, that's another one. I just assumed it's one of the unclaimed things. Adam has claimed nothing so far, for instance. i was thinking maybe some sort of "mirror" used on marv because not many people thought me as super town yet. Unless someone saw my role crumbs but they were very clever so i doubt that. | ||
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On December 01 2012 03:50 Promethelax wrote: A thought Acro, you said you had 9 abilities right? And draz has 27, but only learns about two a night? I doubt it, three seems much more logical. Imp: me no can heal. i was thinking of your second ability. | ||
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On December 01 2012 04:08 Keirathi wrote: In the interest of sharing, I'll claim the roleblock on your n2. I got to use a 150 HP jailkeep for being in the party cycle 1. so what is that a heal "jail" | ||
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On December 01 2012 07:52 Hapahauli wrote: No my abilities wouldn't explain anything about the lack of heals. im talking about the heal i recieved | ||
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On December 01 2012 07:54 Acrofales wrote: Lay off him. If he's town and feels it's better he doesn't claim, then it's better he doesn't claim. If he's scum, he'll just fakeclaim some bullshit anyway. Neither helps us much and if he's town it puts information that Hapa claims is useful to scum in their hands. Either way, pressuring people into claiming is not useful. thats clearly what i'm not trying to accomplish. | ||
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On December 01 2012 09:15 Clarity_nl wrote: I have no idea, but since I am full hp I suggest everyone to vote me to attack first. i never told you how much my heal does | ||
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On December 01 2012 09:19 Clarity_nl wrote: I am assuming it did more than the 70(?) that I took, even if it didn't I am close enough to full hp. your at full hp | ||
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On December 01 2012 09:22 Djodref wrote: I got healed, no damage was inflicted to me. I claim Dieno's save ^^ that was me for the heal | ||
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Elemental attacks are ineffective against him. Water techs are canceled when he wields a sword, so use physical combo attacks. Remember to take the Slasher after you defeat him. | ||
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Can you try that in the actual game? | ||
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On December 01 2012 12:27 Adam4167 wrote: That was mine. I'll probably do it again unless he drastically changes the read I had on Z-BosoN. were you set into that or you didn't want to give the replacement a chance? | ||
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On December 01 2012 11:23 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi guys no damage/heals on myself to report. I healed TC last cycle, if you're pissed that I didn't heal Dieno, get over it. dj seems to have protected him again, as I suspected he would, so healing our parity cop should be just fine with you guys thank you very much. I know nothing of the game, so I'm going to defer to those who do this cycle. Right now that seems to be C/C but I'll let you TriggerFiends talk it out first and vote tomorrow (real time). tc didn't report your heal what gives? | ||
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On December 02 2012 09:24 Clarity_nl wrote: we'll lose hp. I doubt we can grind for levels or loot so falling down a hole can only be bad. they didnt look like they were losing hp to me | ||
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On December 02 2012 09:27 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah because the youtube vid skipped the battles. uh he didnt skip the first one he said he doesn't think the things actually attack | ||
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On December 03 2012 09:17 Clarity_nl wrote: Lavos is happening cycle 12 looks like it | ||
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trying to figure out if i believe you or not obviously. | ||
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On December 03 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote: However do you really think a heavily-themed CT game would not have one of the main fucking characters in the game as a town role? theres a lot of "main" characters from what i can tell. | ||
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On December 03 2012 10:34 Promethelax wrote: in a normal mafia game that makes no sense. In this one I'm not so sure, getting major distance from each other and leading/getting into parties seems like the way for mafia to win. so which one is it? | ||
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On December 03 2012 10:40 Promethelax wrote: those aren't two different things. I think that one player selling two others under the bus could benefit mafia due to failing missions. Not real sure. Hapa: I always have my conspiracy hat on and yes, I always guy read you as scum. But having a null read on you when I look only at your filter isn't something I've experienced before. Kier: you have a good meta sense of Hapa, your full read? i dont want what kier thinks i want what you think of hapa right now. | ||
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On December 03 2012 10:59 Promethelax wrote: Do me a favour. When you have time do a little meta on him. What are your thoughts on SnB? I've only played with him once before (mtg) and this feels...different now that I go re read that game. That was heavily themed like this and SnB was all up in everyone's face doing his thign. Here he is too back seet to be the same guy but look at WLIIA he was just as in your face but was scum. This, to me, is a new SnB. Also he hit me. I don't like that. he only has 2.5 games as scum you obs'd the last one and where in one is he that hard for you? | ||
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On December 03 2012 11:04 Promethelax wrote: wat? Man, write that again but in English this time. I have no idea what you are asking. Ask Syllo about your roleblock, wasn't me. im talking about hapa | ||
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On December 03 2012 11:08 Keirathi wrote: I assume you mean "we're in one". How do you know that he's scum this game? wtf are you talking about. im talking about hapa he has 2.5 scum games in his history | ||
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On December 03 2012 11:13 Keirathi wrote: You said "he only has 2.5 games as scum. You obs'd the last one, and we're in one. Is he that hard for you?" I'm wondering where you got the "and we're in one" part from? prom played in liquid city where hapa replaced in as scum. | ||
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On December 03 2012 11:16 Keirathi wrote: Oh, that makes a bit more sense. Learn to fucking speak english iamp. fuck off | ||
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On December 03 2012 11:21 Keirathi wrote: I don't give a fuck if you've been healing likely town members. Who said scum can't have a healing role? You've not played like your normal self this game, and I've been giving you a free ride because of the healing. Nothing other than that has made me think you were town this whole game. because that would be retarded. | ||
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On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote: My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now... In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist: 1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out. 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... 3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar... 4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too. 5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party 6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later... 7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter. 8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...). 9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions. 10) Toad - Scum 11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read... On November 28 2012 10:03 goodkarma wrote: I know people hate lists, but honestly establishing town is just as important, if not moreso, than finding scum this game. So I have less of a problem with lists. My current conclusions: 1) Vigi shoot VE, Cave, and maybe Adam (in that order). 2) Kita probably is 3rd party... 3) Rolecheck Prox. if possible... 4) Toad = scum... And in case you were wondering, I would say that everyone not on that list is town at this point... | ||
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On December 03 2012 11:46 Promethelax wrote: thank you for proving my point. We, as a whole, need to stop this. Yes, you are shitting up the thread. Now stop it. VE=scum. why he just hasn't been here at all why does that = scum in terms of ve | ||
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On December 03 2012 11:48 Promethelax wrote: How did this look go? You did not follow through at all Imp. Tell me your thinks. scum sylo led the town to success on day 1 on purpose is what it amounted to. he is town. | ||
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On December 03 2012 11:50 Promethelax wrote: Because VE has done something no townie VE would do. He has waited for others to make cases and made his own cases to sheep those. He also listens to the cases of the people he thinks are scum. (He had Hapa as scum but Hapa made a case on me so I was scum. I made a case on GK so VE made a case on GK). VE=Scum. isnt ve super active as scum? | ||
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On December 03 2012 23:12 Oatsmaster wrote: Thanks Clairity <3 I think my vet ability is cooler Its called Poximity bomb I can only assume that it gives the pox to all the people who visit me Why were you asking for heals then? | ||
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On December 03 2012 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Iamp, think. You have 1 ability only? Also Prome, how does claiming ability names do anything? i have 2 but whats the point | ||
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On December 03 2012 21:26 Clarity_nl wrote: Like I said I don't have an era specified but if I did it would be EoT, I dunno about iamp and if he suggests somewhere else I'll follow his lead. my era would be the present but it doesn't say anything about benefits from the time period in my role. | ||
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On December 03 2012 23:45 Promethelax wrote: call me scum as much as you want, it won't make it true. You know my scum play better than literally everyone else in this game and you aren't this thick usually. What is going on in there, huh? I thought protective roles weren't scum? You said your heals proved you town. Now go look at my role and eat your contradiction. you have been going to great lengths to try and prove hapa to be scum. Doesn't seem like your actually trying to figure it out to me. Nice omgus | ||
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On December 03 2012 10:20 Hapahauli wrote: <3 While you're there, please keep in mind some of my actions this game and see if they make sense from a scum perspective: 1) I was the first player to aggressively contest Toad's candidacy for party leader. 2) I was amongst the first to vote Toad on the D2 lynch (the 2nd player I think) and pushed for his lynch. Does it make sense for mafia to turn down an easy bussing opportunity (Sandro) in order to put heavy suspicion on another scumteam member? 3) Toad claimed to shoot me for 100 damage (BEFORE he gave up on the game and BEFORE Acro's check). If I'm lying about the 100 damage, who else could Toad have plausibly targeted? Like hapa brought up great points here and you have basically ignored them entirely. Instead just shouting still scum for host pm reasons. | ||
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On December 03 2012 23:45 Promethelax wrote: call me scum as much as you want, it won't make it true. You know my scum play better than literally everyone else in this game and you aren't this thick usually. What is going on in there, huh? I thought protective roles weren't scum? You said your heals proved you town. Now go look at my role and eat your contradiction. also unlike your abilty mine is 100% cofirmed as truth. | ||
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On December 03 2012 23:59 syllogism wrote: Iamperfection I don't care if you believe Hapa is town (he isn't), but at least don't heal him again my heals have been great this game | ||
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On December 04 2012 00:12 syllogism wrote: He also didn't go anywhere on the night that he claimed having visited Clarity Well hapa? what say you. | ||
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On December 04 2012 00:17 Promethelax wrote: oh, okay. Never you mind me. So why wouldn't he use his ability that night but claim to have used it? I don't see the scum motivation. Playing devil's advocate here but please, indulge me. why would he lie? | ||
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On December 04 2012 00:19 Promethelax wrote: that is the question I asked. yes. What does scum gain by claiming to target clarity but not doing it when they know we have a tracker. it would make me think he was lying about his role | ||
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On December 04 2012 00:28 Promethelax wrote: Open minded. You should try it sometime. I think he is scum I think Syllo is attacking him with shit reasons. I don't like either of those things. I'm the most open minded person in the world | ||
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On December 04 2012 02:36 Hapahauli wrote: My role mentions that I'm from 1000 AD, but doesn't mention any bonus. I can confirm that my role says the same thing | ||
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On December 04 2012 04:14 Keirathi wrote: How many bus drivers do you think scum has? And if it was a town role, why did they use it on phagga, whom s&b said he was going to target at syllo's (?) request? And if it was a townie, why haven't they claimed it? i have no clue Keirathi. and if it was a town role they should obviously claim it in my view. | ||
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On December 04 2012 04:26 strongandbig wrote: do those ever actually help? i can if you really think it would help, but usually all those things do is make the person posting them look like a scum desperate to put together something that looks like a contribution This aint a two way street | ||
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On December 04 2012 04:26 strongandbig wrote: do those ever actually help? i can if you really think it would help, but usually all those things do is make the person posting them look like a scum desperate to put together something that looks like a contribution put it this way if you dont do anymore analysis on the remaining players you are claiming scum | ||
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On December 04 2012 08:57 CaveJohnson wrote: There are no events at the end of time. Why risk any damage on players being greedy at the end game leading to failed events. We need to play it safe and play sensibly at that is why EoT is obviously the best choice. fuck logic i want to level up. plus how do you know for sure? | ||
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On December 04 2012 04:26 strongandbig wrote: do those ever actually help? i can if you really think it would help, but usually all those things do is make the person posting them look like a scum desperate to put together something that looks like a contribution | ||
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On December 04 2012 20:11 strongandbig wrote: ##lynch cavejohnson ##epoch 1999 Lets get this shit over with yo Both of these things are gonna happen eventually might as well do them now You just claimed scum bro if that's all you gonna do. | ||
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1. because i want to 2. i don't believe in living in the past ------------------------------------------ seriously though i think i can get some upgrades from the wording of my role if im on a successful team | ||
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On December 04 2012 23:51 Acrofales wrote: People claimed from the middle ages: H1: suspects he gets bonuses in this era Keirathi: gets bonus for being in a party in middle ages GK: no known bonuses People from the future: Oatsmaster: small bonus in 2300AD Adam: doubles his vig shot damage if he manages to hit with it Present: Iamperfection: might get an upgrade if in a successful team (is the era important?) risk.nuke: no bonuses claimed CJ: no bonuses claimed Hapa: no known bonus Antiquity: Promethelax: no bonuses claimed That's it for era-based bonuses claimed so far. dont no im kind of guessing i kind of want to be on the next team though | ||
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On December 04 2012 17:12 Promethelax wrote: nope. it was my ability. I protected clarity but wasn't told my seed had been activated for most of this cycle. ...I thought we were done with this bull shit Syllo. Even clarity understands it and he is greener than my drinks on saint paddy's day. your seed seems to fuck up any attempts of my healing of clairty now it would seem. how long would the roleblock part last? | ||
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On December 05 2012 01:23 phagga wrote: There we go again. I am so sick of this. you always turning around my words to create meanings that were not there. Where is the town motivation in that? In case you have not noticed yet, there are other alignements besides town and scum. Now leave me the fuck alone. wat Why you so angry? | ||
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On December 05 2012 04:05 Promethelax wrote: Or we protectives did a great job last time around. We'll keep you guys safe though, no worries. I see SnB claimed scum in the thread. So ah, I guess I'll vote SnB. Also I still like the end of time, I don't get bonuses (that I know about) in antiquity. You blocked me. Last cycle was terrible for protection | ||
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Only 1 more scum? Also if we lynch the final scum and get another lynch before the lavos what do we do. Do we have to betray are good friend acro and the other possible 3rd party guys? | ||
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On December 05 2012 12:19 Adam4167 wrote: Lynching the final scum instantly summons Lavos. it does? | ||
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3rd party isnt considered anti town in that situation? | ||
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On December 05 2012 12:47 Promethelax wrote: That seems to clearly indicate just mafia and not 3p. hey i dont remember but does your role inflict damage on those who visit when your trying to seed | ||
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On December 05 2012 12:53 Adam4167 wrote: My thoughts: Acro is probably the 'assassin' hes claiming to be afraid of, what does a survivor need a 1-shot role+alignment check for? Regardless, he has to shoot into the dark now since he spent his check on Toad, so hes not a threat unless hes feeling exceptionally lucky or someone claims the name hes looking for. All of this is irrelevant though, there's still scum out there, evident by lavos' absence. Why the big interest in Acro all of a sudden? well if risk dosn't come back i think that would make him scum so just thinking ahead | ||
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On December 06 2012 07:39 austinmcc wrote: (1) awwww, you're gonna make me blush (2) do you even lift, bro? (3) I don't know, you'd have to ask Grey (I assume he won't answer) Best guess would be that I can only heal in 2/6 of eras. And if we fight lavos in 1999, then I apparently can't heal or shield or anything during that event, if it's multicycle and only in 1999. i would say overall your character is stronger than mine which i find surprising unless your a main character or well your scum. you dont really have any drawbacks like me except the era limitations but really that just changers your role to other pretty good stuff. | ||
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On December 06 2012 07:45 Promethelax wrote: you have drawbacks? i dont | ||
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On December 06 2012 07:47 Promethelax wrote: oh, okay, I was misreading your post I guess. i was saying like me, he also doesn't have any drawbacks. | ||
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On December 06 2012 09:07 Promethelax wrote: we're ~20 pages from beating the longest ever game on tl. It had 180 players. i have just added this as a win condition for myself so we need a topics to discuss while we twiddle are thumbs waiting for risk.nuke to amaze us tomorrow. 1. Who thinks the need a heal the most and why. (By the way i cant heal myself ) 2. Look real closely at your role do you think their is a possibility of you getting stronger? (i mainly think i can because i have numbers next to my abilities) 3.Talk about iamperfection in general in how great he his and why you could all be a little better if you were even just 1% more like him. 4. Lavos preparation. Hypothetically we dont lynch scum and have to select a party again does anyone feel in particular that they want to be on the party? (i do because i think i can get stronger and because i want to. discuss | ||
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On December 06 2012 12:34 Oatsmaster wrote: I am a main character and I dont have awesome abilities 1. I dont really need a heal, as far as I know, I am at full health. 2. No. 3. LAMP SHINES LIGHT!!!! ! 4. I would like to be in the party cause all the parties I have been in, excluding the car crash of the magnus on have succeeded. I am suspicious of Acro though, everyone sheeped him and we ended up losing the event. Just putting it out there. did you get my heal? | ||
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On December 06 2012 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote: I was already at full health before the last cycle ended, so I guess wasted heal Iamp. Lynch risk currently but I would like to think about it for a bit i thought you took damage? | ||
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On December 06 2012 00:30 risk.nuke wrote: I have payed minimal attention to this game for the last weak. Nobody listened to me saying Viscera didn't play this as scum. Nobody listened when I told people don't claim your name or MY name there will be repercussions(Hi s&b). I couldn't go on missions and we had no lynches and when we did there were always obvious scum. I'm active now because now I have something to do and this game doesn't make me drowsy looking at it. For someone that is happy to finally have stuff to talk about you really haven't been doing it. | ||
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same as acro since we cant stay here i don't really care. | ||
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On December 07 2012 07:19 Keirathi wrote: I dunno what risk you've played with, but that's not my experience My experience is town risk about to get lynched comes in at the last minute and calls everyone fucking retards and storms off. guess we will have to have are ready | ||
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On December 07 2012 09:07 Promethelax wrote: can you explain why? i.e. era/time in game/successful use of ability? i have no idea why my heal on sylo seems to have been a success other than that no | ||
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On December 07 2012 09:13 austinmcc wrote: Oh crap, early post. I used my heal on iamperfection. Should have healed 150, or topped you off, not 100% sure how much you were missing. Figured he was a good candidate because: healer, got hit with a roleblock and some damage, posts generally make sense, seems to be thinking about ye olde endgame (as this game appears to have more to it than just eliminating scum faction), scum seems intent on killing syllogism so he hopefully doesn't die overnight. Plus the whole maybe he was out of juice because of low hp bit. does your role have anything to do with upgrades as well? | ||
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On December 07 2012 09:40 kitaman27 wrote: RIP Cave. While you slaved in the kitchen preparing the finest cuisine, we looked down upon you and some of us (not to name any names) tried to murder you. Your talents were truly unappreciated. I only wish you were alive to see the end of time one day... I suppose with five mafia dead it wouldn't hurt, unless Acro is out to kill me or something Mass claim is probably our best option to find the remaining 1-2 anti-town players. My abilities cost a certain amount of mp and I can use as many abilities as I want per turn as long as I can pay for them. My mp regenerate over time and I gain new abilities while leveling up, which occurs with successful events, mafia lynches or at random (I haven't quite figured out why I sometimes gain two levels. Maybe the time period) Cyclone 10mp - 50 damage target player Lightening 30mp - Roleblock target player Lightening 2 70mp - 100 damage + Roleblock target player Raise 150mp - Gain a level Frenzy 100mp - Damage target for 50 for two nights I've mostly been using Cyclone and Lightening each night to sustain my mp until Lavos shows up, since the others don't seem very cost efficient. I figure I probably have the highest event success modifier, which is why I've tried to get myself included in parties, but apparently people never had a strong enough read on me how many times have you "leveled" up? | ||
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On December 07 2012 12:43 Hopeless1der wrote: Doesn't that mean you were targeted for 200 damage? im talking about before not this cycle | ||
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On December 07 2012 12:34 Adam4167 wrote: Out of that list of names, I am not willing to see either Hopeless or Phagga hanged. I've had a town read on Phagga since pretty early on, nothing has really changed that during the course of this game. Hopeless had a bit of a bumpy start but has since put in some solid work. Read my case on Z-boson. and the followup here Read Hopeless case on Z-boson Now consider the fact that last nights actions proved that Z-BosoN was capable of healing, yet chose not to - instead claiming an untraceable shield. We are still yet to flip a protective scum role after 5 of them dead, there is no way they were not given some form of medic in this setup. Austinmcc is the logical choice for today's lynch. ##Lynch Austinmcc he said his ability depends on the era | ||
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On December 07 2012 12:56 Adam4167 wrote: Cycle 1 and 2 he could have healed, but didn't. Instead he chose to shield 2 pretty strange targets (both of which I think are lies) and claim a semi non-verifiable shield. they were not that weird at the time | ||
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On December 08 2012 00:48 Promethelax wrote: probably clarity. he healed marv like i did n2 | ||
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On December 07 2012 06:29 phagga wrote: About risk.nuke For him it is pretty much the opposite of Hope. I liked his early play as I explained earlier. However, for almost a week now he has gone silent. It was pointed out that he has not called a person scum or made a case. I asked him several times for his read on hapa and never got an answer. His recent play is worrying. He promised a defense and a case, and now, less than two hours before deadline, he has not posted it. I therefore assume he is not playing in towns interest, which warrants a lynch. About goodkarma: I wanted to update my read on him too, but did not find the time. I will do so in the next cycle, I should have a lot of time on my hand from tomorrow evening on (wife and kids are gone for a week). Since I seem to be the only one still having him marked as scum, i give him the benefit of the doubt until I have been able to go through his filter again. About the Epoch: I am happy following the majority again regarding the time we travel to. ##Unvote Lynch: Goodkarma ##Lynch: risk.nuke ##Epoch: Middle Ages And with this I'm off to bed. See you guys tomorrow. have to look more closely though once i have time | ||
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I also dont think a replacing out zbos would have bothered to make the big post that he did right before the deadline if he was scum. It seems like to me zbos was just pouring all his thoughts from his perspective on what he thought was going on in the game. If he was scum i think zbos would have just said fuck it and not said a word. | ||
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On December 09 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote: @ Phagga To elaborate: This will be the 4th (5th?) lynch cycle where you beat around the bush and post very irrelevant content until the very end of the cycle. Then at the end of the cycle, you neatly package together a non-controversial vote on someone. If this was once or twice, I wouldn't think much of it. However this is a pattern. Day 1 (Party vote): You support kita because you "liked one of his posts" then sheep the vote on Syllo at the very end of the day. Day 2 (Lynch vote): You call CaveJohnson scum for very little rationale, make a "case" on GoodKarma, then end up sheeping the vote on Sandro at the end of the day. Day 3-5 (Bunch of non-controversial votes on party-leaders/lynching Toad, material doesn't apply to my suspicions.) Day 6 (Lynch): You spend the entire day tunneling GoodKarma. This is the only aberration from your pattern, but tunneling a candidate who had no chance in hell of getting lynched isn't being useful by any measure. You attack risk for calling me scum. This is seemingly a strong accusation, but you are very wishy-washy on him the next day. Day 7 (Lynch): Wishy-washy on risk, you still think that GK is the scummiest candidate, build a town-case on Hopeless, then you vote risk at the very end of the day. [h] Today (Lynch): Now we're following the exact same pattern. You've voiced your opinions that GK is town and that one of Adam and Austin is scum. Yet we haven't heard anything resembling analysis on either player. We're now 2.5 hours before the deadline, and once again you're setting up for an inconsequential last-minute vote. Comment on this phagga i think he nails you. | ||
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On December 09 2012 08:30 syllogism wrote: Oh okay, so that's 250 damage. Why would mafia split their kp like this? obviously he is trying to kill us. -------------------------- Actually i think this could be an indication that the mafia member might be somebody we are not looking at. I think he would be more inclined to just kill you if he was under more suspicion. | ||
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On December 09 2012 08:46 syllogism wrote: That's not a problem. We lynch austin unless he find the last mafia for us. All I care about right now is lavos and the game ending. Austin's role isn't even going to be helpful if he is town. By the way, he hasn't claimed what his ability is in 1999 AD why would we lynch austin if he didn't go anywhere and both you and i took damage? | ||
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Since i was upgraded in that previous cycle it leads me to believe i could have been upgraded more. Therefore i think its a very real possibility if we aren't prepared properly we could still lose. | ||
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On December 09 2012 08:52 Hopeless1der wrote: Pardon? A heal was not attempted??? Austin, an explanation? Also, I'd like you to inquire about your abilitiies in 1999 AD if you haven't already. It wasn't clear if you knew from this post: ya he has a heal 600ad right? So why wouldn't he heal? but you would think he would do it if was either mafia or town right? hopefully he didn't just fuck up and forget | ||
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On December 09 2012 08:57 kitaman27 wrote: This game really comes down to defeating lavos. Mafia is going to lose their factional kp so they are less of a threat. One option we have is to lynch Acro. We know he doesn't contribute to the town damage output formula against Lavos. Lynching him might be the least risky option if the remaining mafia player is one of Keirathi/Adam/Prom/Hapa/Hope. With some luck, he might even turn out to be an anti-town player. I think this might be our best option. that would be so cold at this point. | ||
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On December 10 2012 11:21 Keirathi wrote: austin: the reason we're voting you today is because you didn't attempt to heal anyone last night. Why not? This | ||
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On December 10 2012 11:29 Promethelax wrote: says the guy who won't tell me his name. I still don't get why you care about the names | ||
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On December 10 2012 11:33 austinmcc wrote: Been answered now, figured it was apparent why I wouldn't do anything last night. I can't tell you who the last scum is. I don't like any of the "obvious" choices for scum. Today's lynch shouldn't be "pick a person, force them to carry town by finding the remaining scum because dear Lord I sure don't know who the last guy is." There are quite a few players who seem to have given up on this game cycles ago, some players have pretty much explicitly said that. So if you're voting me because I haven't found the remaining scum...okay. Nobody else seems to have a clear idea of who the final scum is...if I actually FOUND the scum I'd look kind of suspect, because then I'm the only guy in the game with a clear scum read. In other words your saying since everyone else is being lazy I can be lazy too. What you trying to blend in? | ||
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On December 10 2012 11:36 Promethelax wrote: Not necessarily. I'll know that when I have all the information. I don't completely trust you so if you want my name you can dive through my filter and find my crumb. | ||
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On December 10 2012 12:22 GreYMisT wrote: CAN an orange count towards the number of apples in my hand? Lol | ||
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On December 11 2012 14:32 Acrofales wrote: Self-target only. I have sent in my actions already. I am going to shoot Toad for as much damage as I possibly can and pray I can kill him before you guys kill Lavos. Part of the reason my own wincon is now incredibly hard is because so many townies are alive. I honestly don't think you could've gotten here with what looks to be12 townies alive without my help scumhunting. With 12 townies alive, for a total of 500 damage on Toad. And that is without any of people's abilities. It looks like Lavos is going to die in 3 cycles. I am incapable of doing that kind of damage to Toad and it fucking sucks that I am going to lose after helping town be in such an awesome position. The least you can do is NOT roleblock me. Never mind then | ||
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By the way acro it wouldn't really effect you might even help | ||
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On December 12 2012 08:20 Acrofales wrote: Which bit of RANDOM targets do you not get? If lavos can only do 100 dmg what is the point. | ||
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Thanks for hosting dragged a bit but had a blast. | ||
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On December 13 2012 10:36 GreYMisT wrote: iamperfection was upgraded because town was successful in 1000 AD after gaining the epoch i knew it. im always right | ||
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