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On November 25 2012 17:39 syllogism wrote: I read that, but does it unambiguously say that he used the same ability on me on n1 and n2 i don't see anything about his n2 action
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didnt you report damage syllo day 1? How would that be possible if he used his ability on you? Im thinking delvering damge would be just like any other action no?
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Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
On November 25 2012 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer
This is acceptable to me.
##Vote: Oatsmaster
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Also, look who I just caught with his vote still on Toad
On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote: ##Unvote: Oatsmaster ##Vote Toadesstern
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Today, Vote Djodref as your Party Leader !
[i]Campaign Platform[i]
First of all, I would like to say that my main motivation for launching this campaign is to promote my ideas,like in real politics. I would greatly appreciate that you manifest your support of my ideas via your votes. I really want to win this election!
Top 1 reason to vote for me I'm town and it is the only thing I know for sure in this game. This is something I want to show and prove to you during this campaign and by eventually leading you to a successful event !
Top 2 reason to vote for me: avoid the concentration of powers As I've explained before, I think that the town biggest assets right now are Oats and Dieno. I don't want them to run as party leaders and gain some items that would make them a vulnerability for the town for the day we lost one of them to thr mafia or to Lavos.
Top 3 reason to vote for me: giving less room for the mafia to hide I'm going to keep only one of the players of the previous party and introduce three new players including myself. I'm very confident to get the event to succeed with my team. So we are going to have three players "more likely to be town" that we could easily not consider as lynch candidates for the next lynch event.
My ticket
- Djodref, as your heroic and truthful party leader !
- Oats, the almost confirmed Robo
- Clarity, the obvious townie, slayer of sandroba
- The beautiful unknow, to play games with the mafia. My decision is definitive for the fourth member but I'm not revealing him for the reasons explained in cycle 1
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djo will this mystery player remain a secret?
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On November 25 2012 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer
My objection is that I don't want ton concentrate too much of the town assets on newbie players like you. I don't want to loose too much when the mafia or Lavos manage to kill you or Dieno.
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On November 25 2012 17:59 iamperfection wrote: djo will this mystery player remain a secret?
Yes, I'm not going to reveal him at all ^^
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There is no way I am ever voting for a party that doesn't include Dieno and Oats. And I will vehemently fight against one that doesnt.
No. Never, ever. We have to win the events. We still have our wits to lynch scum, we don't need to risk event success for some "ballsy" play.
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On November 25 2012 18:02 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer My objection is that I don't want ton concentrate too much of the town assets on newbie players like you. I don't want to loose too much when the mafia or Lavos manage to kill you or Dieno. why are we making an assumption that the assets would be better in their hands anyways? Also why would the mafia have an easier time killing oats or anyone else for that matter?
1. we dont know if a so called vet having the item is any better than a so called newer player
2. we dont know the roles of our fellow members that could be more beneficial against the lavos.
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On November 25 2012 17:34 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 17:10 Djodref wrote:On November 25 2012 16:29 Keirathi wrote:On November 25 2012 16:13 Djodref wrote:
Most reasonable Party for this Cycle
- Party leader: Strong town player who has already shown his alignment (Acro or maybe marv) or me, Djodref ^^
- Dieno and/or Oats, I think we are in a very good position (no NKs yet) and we should get ballsy and pick only one of them to get more "likely to be town" players
- One or two "easy to identify as town" players like Clarity or Hapa or me
Why in the world would we do that? Our primary goal this game is to kill Lavos. Winning events probably helps us do that in some way or another. Therefore we want to win every event possible, not leave townies out of them just to be "ballsy". I agree with you but we would be in a better position imo if all the mafia members are dead when Lavos is summoned. I'm confident enough in my reads to find two others town players and propose a team which could garantee the success of the event. If I can get town credit and two other guys get town credit at the same time, it really narrows the possibility for.mafia to hide for the next lynch event. For example, what do you think of the following Djodref as party leader Oats are Robo the almost confirmed town Clarity the new town player sticking to its obvious town meta and early supporter of a sandro lynch Insert player looking town here : I would have taken Acro but he doesn't want to be part of the team so I guess Marv should deserve this spot. Not fixed on the third player yet. I think winning the event is more imperative that having some more town reads. And, no offense, but I wouldn't vote for you for party leader anyways.
No offense taken. Also I respect your position. I'm favorable for a higher risk/higher reward play and I think that my idea deserves at least to be promoted. What do you think about avoiding to concentrate our assets on the newbies ?
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On November 25 2012 18:04 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 17:59 iamperfection wrote: djo will this mystery player remain a secret? Yes, I'm not going to reveal him at all ^^ then you wont have my vote and i dont think you will get anyone else's vote.
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On November 25 2012 18:08 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 17:34 Keirathi wrote:On November 25 2012 17:10 Djodref wrote:On November 25 2012 16:29 Keirathi wrote:On November 25 2012 16:13 Djodref wrote:
Most reasonable Party for this Cycle
- Party leader: Strong town player who has already shown his alignment (Acro or maybe marv) or me, Djodref ^^
- Dieno and/or Oats, I think we are in a very good position (no NKs yet) and we should get ballsy and pick only one of them to get more "likely to be town" players
- One or two "easy to identify as town" players like Clarity or Hapa or me
Why in the world would we do that? Our primary goal this game is to kill Lavos. Winning events probably helps us do that in some way or another. Therefore we want to win every event possible, not leave townies out of them just to be "ballsy". I agree with you but we would be in a better position imo if all the mafia members are dead when Lavos is summoned. I'm confident enough in my reads to find two others town players and propose a team which could garantee the success of the event. If I can get town credit and two other guys get town credit at the same time, it really narrows the possibility for.mafia to hide for the next lynch event. For example, what do you think of the following Djodref as party leader Oats are Robo the almost confirmed town Clarity the new town player sticking to its obvious town meta and early supporter of a sandro lynch Insert player looking town here : I would have taken Acro but he doesn't want to be part of the team so I guess Marv should deserve this spot. Not fixed on the third player yet. I think winning the event is more imperative that having some more town reads. And, no offense, but I wouldn't vote for you for party leader anyways. No offense taken. Also I respect your position. I'm favorable for a higher risk/higher reward play and I think that my idea deserves at least to be promoted. What do you think about avoiding to concentrate our assets on the newbies ? "Concentrating" them? Syllo has our only 'gift' so far. And we have no idea what it is, or what it does.
Also, I'm not necessarily objecting having someone else be party leader other than the two of them. But I am 100% objecting to a party that doesn't contain both of them.
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On November 25 2012 18:07 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 18:02 Djodref wrote:On November 25 2012 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer My objection is that I don't want ton concentrate too much of the town assets on newbie players like you. I don't want to loose too much when the mafia or Lavos manage to kill you or Dieno. why are we making an assumption that the assets would be better in their hands anyways? Also why would the mafia have an easier time killing oats or anyone else for that matter? 1. we dont know if a so called vet having the item is any better than a so called newer player 2. we dont know the roles of our fellow members that could be more beneficial against the lavos.
1. I'm sure a vet would make a better use of the item than the newbie. But I have no idea of the relation between item/character.
2. Me neither but I assume that it is safer to trust the vets to take better decisions than the newbies to fight Lavos, regardless of their roles and abilities.
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
On November 25 2012 17:56 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +
Today, Vote Djodref as your Party Leader !
[i]Campaign Platform[i]
First of all, I would like to say that my main motivation for launching this campaign is to promote my ideas,like in real politics. I would greatly appreciate that you manifest your support of my ideas via your votes. I really want to win this election! Top 1 reason to vote for meI'm town and it is the only thing I know for sure in this game. This is something I want to show and prove to you during this campaign and by eventually leading you to a successful event ! Top 2 reason to vote for me: avoid the concentration of powersAs I've explained before, I think that the town biggest assets right now are Oats and Dieno. I don't want them to run as party leaders and gain some items that would make them a vulnerability for the town for the day we lost one of them to thr mafia or to Lavos.
Top 3 reason to vote for me: giving less room for the mafia to hideI'm going to keep only one of the players of the previous party and introduce three new players including myself. I'm very confident to get the event to succeed with my team. So we are going to have three players "more likely to be town" that we could easily not consider as lynch candidates for the next lynch event.
My ticket
- Djodref, as your heroic and truthful party leader !
- Oats, the almost confirmed Robo
- Clarity, the obvious townie, slayer of sandroba
- The beautiful unknow, to play games with the mafia. My decision is definitive for the fourth member but I'm not revealing him for the reasons explained in cycle 1
Ugh my eyes are bleeding. We are going to be targets whether or not we are in the group, so there is no reason not to put us in right now. Completing events is my #1 goal right now. Any scum that we can turn over in the meantime is just extra cake for dessert. Until we have an established group, I don't think we should take any chances at the challenges.
It feels to me as if you are setting yourself up to drag in some unknown scumbuddy into the group, win the challenge anyway because of Robo carry, then be in a position of power to control the opinion of the lynch vote the next day. In the meantime, your scumbuddy now has good towny cred for passing a challenge.
Your third reason is just a straw point to back up your power play. While it's true that more people will have passed the group test and therefor be slightly 'cleaner' than others, I don't think it's worth it.
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On November 25 2012 18:13 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 18:07 iamperfection wrote:On November 25 2012 18:02 Djodref wrote:On November 25 2012 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer My objection is that I don't want ton concentrate too much of the town assets on newbie players like you. I don't want to loose too much when the mafia or Lavos manage to kill you or Dieno. why are we making an assumption that the assets would be better in their hands anyways? Also why would the mafia have an easier time killing oats or anyone else for that matter? 1. we dont know if a so called vet having the item is any better than a so called newer player 2. we dont know the roles of our fellow members that could be more beneficial against the lavos. 1. I'm sure a vet would make a better use of the item than the newbie. But I have no idea of the relation between item/character. 2. Me neither but I assume that it is safer to trust the vets to take better decisions than the newbies to fight Lavos, regardless of their roles and abilities. You're making a lot of assumptions that don't make logical sense. It's quite possible that whatever the 'gift' is ONLY works on Lavos, in which case it doesn't matter WHO has it. Also, we don't even know that its something you can 'use' anyways. Maybe its just a buff to all abilities used against Lavos. Or maybe its a debuff on Lavos that does something else. You're assuming too much when you know absolutely nothing.
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On November 25 2012 17:56 Djodref wrote:
Today, Vote Djodref as your Party Leader !
[i]Campaign Platform[i]
First of all, I would like to say that my main motivation for launching this campaign is to promote my ideas,like in real politics. I would greatly appreciate that you manifest your support of my ideas via your votes. I really want to win this election! Top 1 reason to vote for meI'm town and it is the only thing I know for sure in this game. This is something I want to show and prove to you during this campaign and by eventually leading you to a successful event ! Top 2 reason to vote for me: avoid the concentration of powersAs I've explained before, I think that the town biggest assets right now are Oats and Dieno. I don't want them to run as party leaders and gain some items that would make them a vulnerability for the town for the day we lost one of them to thr mafia or to Lavos.
Top 3 reason to vote for me: giving less room for the mafia to hideI'm going to keep only one of the players of the previous party and introduce three new players including myself. I'm very confident to get the event to succeed with my team. So we are going to have three players "more likely to be town" that we could easily not consider as lynch candidates for the next lynch event.
My ticket
- Djodref, as your heroic and truthful party leader !
- Oats, the almost confirmed Robo
- Clarity, the obvious townie, slayer of sandroba
- The beautiful unknow, to play games with the mafia. My decision is definitive for the fourth member but I'm not revealing him for the reasons explained in cycle 1
A few things about this...:
1) Okay. You know you're town... I'd say it's safe to assume that Oats and Dieno are town, and you should know that as well. What exactly is wrong with letting let's say Oats take the lead?
2) You say you want to protect them by having the items for yourself? Doesn't that just make you a strong target instead???
Keep in mind that Dieno isn't dead yet, and, if as a main character he can stay alive then Oats + Show Spoiler +(who to the best of my knowledge, I'm not re-reading the "damage report" again...) who has full hp, could take quite the beating before dying. We don't even know we get an item after each event (or even that it always goes to party leader), but even if we do mafia is going to have to sit down and seriously reconsider its priorities.
As of now, using all their resources they have failed to kill a single player two turns into the game. I'd guess that the survivability Oats has actually would make him less of a target as scum is likely to try its best to start killing people, and I'm not sold they can kill Oats in one turn even with everything they've got only on him (based off the total damages reported in the game thus far).
Also: dieno and Oats have already claimed, and everyone believes them to be town. So, they are going to be a target whether or not they go...
Finally, having a "secret fouth" is fine if you have a demonstrated strong ability to read players. I don't, however, believe that you're going to have the strong reads that someone such as syllo does. I was not okay with syllo having secret reads, but voted him anyway day 1 due to a lack of better options... Since that point, he has demonstrated his reads to be solid to us. You are yet another player who I've never played with before, but unlike syllo, you don't have a strong reputation for making solid reads. So, I am far less satisfied with the idea of a "mystery member" in your party...
I can't vote for you. Your reasoning for running is pretty poor. The most pro-town thing you can do is to step down and let a "confirmed town" take the lead. The problems you have with someone like Oats running are rather non-existent...
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