No. I don't want to hear any bullshit about SEA has good players because we fucking don't. Saying anyone is invited is basically saying let's give fifteen hundred dollars to some Koreans. It's fucking annoying as hell to see really good looking tournaments around South East Asia and then they get ruined by letting foreigners (basically Koreans because of timezones) in because it'd look fancy. The SEA Masters Cup HAD Koreans in it and after it turned out that even Startale B-teamers beat the shit out of SEA they've mostly barred Koreans from being in the tournaments.
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
No. I don't want to hear any bullshit about SEA has good players because we fucking don't. Saying anyone is invited is basically saying let's give fifteen hundred dollars to some Koreans. It's fucking annoying as hell to see really good looking tournaments around South East Asia and then they get ruined by letting foreigners (basically Koreans because of timezones) in because it'd look fancy. The SEA Masters Cup HAD Koreans in it and after it turned out that even Startale B-teamers beat the shit out of SEA they've mostly barred Koreans from being in the tournaments. | ||
Crucius
Australia299 Posts
On November 21 2011 18:09 iaguz wrote: Oh heaps fucking sweet all Korean top 8. No. I don't want to hear any bullshit about SEA has good players because we fucking don't. Saying anyone is invited is basically saying let's give fifteen hundred dollars to some Koreans. It's fucking annoying as hell to see really good looking tournaments around South East Asia and then they get ruined by letting foreigners (basically Koreans because of timezones) in because it'd look fancy. The SEA Masters Cup HAD Koreans in it and after it turned out that even Startale B-teamers beat the shit out of SEA they've mostly barred Koreans from being in the tournaments. I think I could've worded what I said better. By "show everyone what we can offer" I meant the Australian Pro League in regards to tournament organised and production level of the stream. The limiting of regional play has been brought up before and we have discussed it among ourselves. Rampage talked about this on the SC2SEA thread: We argued about this internally for a long time and the short answer is that it's really, really hard to ensure that people are who they say they are. Acquiring a SEA account is easy, for us to get people to prove they are SEA residents is... not quite as easy. The end result is this, which is regrettable but don't misunderstand our intentions (which seem kinda conflicting, we'll admit : P). The APL will become what it's name says it is, but to do so we first need to show people what we're here to offer. We wish to be like the ACL, hold great Aussie events and have awesome people watch/participate in them, however we lack the same foundation as the ACL so we need to start somewhere, show people we mean business and then go from there. If you're referring specifically to the tweet: That was misguided intention. It was supposed to be like "hey look, we're doing cool things! Take interest in us and the SEA scene!" not what it came out to be. Great ideas when you're drunk don't seem so great when you're sober | ||
Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
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SenSai
Australia335 Posts
On November 21 2011 20:01 Camlito wrote: It's pretty easy to stop koreans using smurf accounts, or atleast it is not 'really really hard'. Most of the people on SEA know where each player stands skill-wise, so if johnjames beats deth or something in the first round we'd know it's not a SEA player. but johnjames is my mate. | ||
NExt
Australia1651 Posts
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Duckvillelol
Australia1228 Posts
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sirdharma
France7 Posts
On November 23 2011 18:22 Duckvillelol wrote: Just did some testing and we're sounding great! Can't wait to get started, please be sure to spread the word guys! I'd love to have a bunch of the SEA community watching, but of course any international folks would be great! I'll watch it mate! Great initiative! | ||
Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
On November 23 2011 18:22 Duckvillelol wrote: Just did some testing and we're sounding great! Can't wait to get started, please be sure to spread the word guys! I'd love to have a bunch of the SEA community watching, but of course any international folks would be great! Will be watching for sure | ||
Crucius
Australia299 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On November 21 2011 17:35 Crucius wrote: And we have 2 Slayers players registered at the moment, so there are a few koreans in there Welp gg Every SEA event I've casted that has korean progamers (even B-teamers) results in them cleaning up. Hopefully they're at least close to the level of the rest so the finals (or whatever game has the last nonkorean) isn't a roflstomp. | ||
shublar
Korea (South)264 Posts
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
Its unfortunate that the prize will not go/may not go to an SEA player however spending $1500 on a tournament that gets minimal views is a bit silly. The organisers have done the right thing, for now. Until there is a larger number of high calibre SEA players to provide quality games from start to finish the korean spectacle will always save the financial day. I will be watching this event! | ||
AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
On November 21 2011 18:09 iaguz wrote: Oh heaps fucking sweet all Korean top 8. No. I don't want to hear any bullshit about SEA has good players because we fucking don't. Saying anyone is invited is basically saying let's give fifteen hundred dollars to some Koreans. It's fucking annoying as hell to see really good looking tournaments around South East Asia and then they get ruined by letting foreigners (basically Koreans because of timezones) in because it'd look fancy. The SEA Masters Cup HAD Koreans in it and after it turned out that even Startale B-teamers beat the shit out of SEA they've mostly barred Koreans from being in the tournaments. Hahaha, step up your game or don't play at all then. | ||
Crucius
Australia299 Posts
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Insipidity
Singapore48 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On November 26 2011 10:26 AZKziek wrote: Hahaha, step up your game or don't play at all then. You mean like how you heroically qualified for the IPL4 qualifiers? Oh wait. | ||
AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
On November 26 2011 21:51 Ruscour wrote: You mean like how you heroically qualified for the IPL4 qualifiers? Oh wait. Well yeah, I had to beat MC in one of the online qualifiers, so heroically is a great word to describe it. | ||
Champi
1422 Posts
EDIT- lol this is iaguz posting from champi's pc (forgot I'm logged on as him atm) | ||
Potthead
Australia121 Posts
On November 26 2011 23:22 AZKziek wrote: Well yeah, I had to beat MC in one of the online qualifiers, so heroically is a great word to describe it. Don't forget your heroic wins over the cube players in the group stages! | ||
AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
On November 27 2011 00:05 Potthead wrote: Don't forget your heroic wins over the cube players in the group stages! Rofl, yeah low gm Cube scrubs... they would have been SO TOUGH. | ||
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