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should be a cool tournament ^^
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Hyun? Well there went all the excitement. :p
And Morrow will probably be terran all the way.
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This is quite a large prizepool for a HotS beta tournament. I can totally understand why all the medium-sized tournament organizers are trying to innovate and use HotS before the beta is over, but imo it is still a bit early, the beta is barely a month old.
Regardless, its great to see these tournaments continue. The stability and continuity by GIGABYTE the sponsor and the organizers from mystarcraft.de is spectacular.
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and again the community is out beforehand due to invites. even if hots is a "new" game.. I don't understand why there is no real tournament with real money..
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On September 25 2012 20:57 pluu.mooh wrote: and again the community is out beforehand due to invites. even if hots is a "new" game.. I don't understand why there is no real tournament with real money..
theres a prize pool............
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I hope this time invited players are actually familiar with the latest HotS version. Would be ashame to see someone trying to build warhounds.
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On September 25 2012 20:57 pluu.mooh wrote: and again the community is out beforehand due to invites. even if hots is a "new" game.. I don't understand why there is no real tournament with real money.. I can't even understand the point you're trying to get across. Do you mean no "real tournament" as in no Blizzard-sponsored tournament?
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Gogo Beasty !
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On September 25 2012 21:50 garlicface wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 20:57 pluu.mooh wrote: and again the community is out beforehand due to invites. even if hots is a "new" game.. I don't understand why there is no real tournament with real money.. I can't even understand the point you're trying to get across. Do you mean no "real tournament" as in no Blizzard-sponsored tournament?
sry truely bad english there!! This is just something that bothers me all the time. Invites are killing this "esport". I just don't get it why people do invite only tournaments at the very beginning of a "nearly" new game. For real, who knows how good they are really? Don't you think there are already other players out there that got a good idea bout hots? That's what I intentially wanted to say. Sorry for misunderstanding.
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sry truely bad english there!! This is just something that bothers me all the time. Invites are killing this "esport". I just don't get it why people do invite only tournaments at the very beginning of a "nearly" new game. For real, who knows how good they are really? Don't you think there are already other players out there that got a good idea bout hots? That's what I intentially wanted to say. Sorry for misunderstanding.
Well it takes time and effort to run qualifiers esp over multiple servers. I think this is a great little tourny and I will def tune in. Whoever wondered who Tarrantius is I just looked him up. He is a german player from Alien Invasion and he took down a tourny last month beating Daisy, Bly and Strelok on his way.
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On September 25 2012 23:13 pluu.mooh wrote:
sry truely bad english there!! This is just something that bothers me all the time. Invites are killing this "esport". I just don't get it why people do invite only tournaments at the very beginning of a "nearly" new game. For real, who knows how good they are really? Don't you think there are already other players out there that got a good idea bout hots? That's what I intentially wanted to say. Sorry for misunderstanding.
If a game needs balancing by high level players then the best environment to do it are tourneys, especially ones with a prize pool. It doesn't really matters if they are fun to watch because they are helping the game in the end. The more tourney we get now, the less GSL and MLG it will take for Blizzard to realize something is wrong.
There wasn't any of those mini-tourneys or invites in the WoL beta. The only "serious" tourneys we had were near the end... I don't know whether we had more tourneys at that time WoL would have been better, but if HotS beta is as long as the WoL one with the current environement, the should be way more refined than WoL on release.
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If this is online Hyun wins. No stopping that guy.
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I'm getting some heavy lag (only video, audio is fine) on Khaldor's stream other streams are fine.
Edit : Weirdly the lag is less severe on max quality but it's still pretty bad :/
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On September 26 2012 00:08 renkin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 23:13 pluu.mooh wrote:
sry truely bad english there!! This is just something that bothers me all the time. Invites are killing this "esport". I just don't get it why people do invite only tournaments at the very beginning of a "nearly" new game. For real, who knows how good they are really? Don't you think there are already other players out there that got a good idea bout hots? That's what I intentially wanted to say. Sorry for misunderstanding. If a game needs balancing by high level players then the best environment to do it are tourneys, especially ones with a prize pool. It doesn't really matters if they are fun to watch because they are helping the game in the end. The more tourney we get now, the less GSL and MLG it will take for Blizzard to realize something is wrong. There wasn't any of those mini-tourneys or invites in the WoL beta. The only "serious" tourneys we had were near the end... I don't know whether we had more tourneys at that time WoL would have been better, but if HotS beta is as long as the WoL one with the current environement, the should be way more refined than WoL on release.
That's true. Although the last hots tournament I watch some of the players hadn't even installed the game, and no one really used the new units. :D
We'll get there. ^^
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replays are available in the first post
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Khaldor is such a beast casting this right after getting back from code A.
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On September 26 2012 00:43 red4ce wrote: Khaldor is such a beast casting this right after getting back from code A. You're not really familiar with him, are you?
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Will liquipedia link be available soon?
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Mothership core really great for defense eh
Textbook counter from zerg, what use is a Purify that lasts 18 seconds of real time and takes ~128 seconds to recharge?
14% uptime is pitiful at best and zerg just walking away, losing a roach (wow, a single roach from 120 supply) and then just walking back 15 seconds later and crushing protoss while mothership core is sat there floating shows how completely worthless it is for defense. It didnt even pay for itself, even though it was created some 3 and a half minutes to build energy before it was used for defense.
Im not questioning the legitimacy of HyuN's dominating win, but that mothership core was hillariously useless in doing exactly what it was designed for
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I don't share Khaldors opinion on PvZ being fast and entertaining. I think it's the most stale/boring match-up in the game (the way it's often played now).
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On September 25 2012 23:13 pluu.mooh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 21:50 garlicface wrote:On September 25 2012 20:57 pluu.mooh wrote: and again the community is out beforehand due to invites. even if hots is a "new" game.. I don't understand why there is no real tournament with real money.. I can't even understand the point you're trying to get across. Do you mean no "real tournament" as in no Blizzard-sponsored tournament? sry truely bad english there!! This is just something that bothers me all the time. Invites are killing this "esport". I just don't get it why people do invite only tournaments at the very beginning of a "nearly" new game. For real, who knows how good they are really? Don't you think there are already other players out there that got a good idea bout hots? That's what I intentially wanted to say. Sorry for misunderstanding.
I agree with you to a certain extent. Invite tournaments generally give the same players the limelight all the time. However, invitational tournaments are the easiest tournaments to structure, they generally provide really good entertainment, thus creating high viewing figures.
I am organising an invitational just now (see this thread), but I most certainly plan on doing open tournaments.
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Ty! I just watched that page, half hour ago , and it didnt existed
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On September 26 2012 00:58 Seanza wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 23:13 pluu.mooh wrote:On September 25 2012 21:50 garlicface wrote:On September 25 2012 20:57 pluu.mooh wrote: and again the community is out beforehand due to invites. even if hots is a "new" game.. I don't understand why there is no real tournament with real money.. I can't even understand the point you're trying to get across. Do you mean no "real tournament" as in no Blizzard-sponsored tournament? sry truely bad english there!! This is just something that bothers me all the time. Invites are killing this "esport". I just don't get it why people do invite only tournaments at the very beginning of a "nearly" new game. For real, who knows how good they are really? Don't you think there are already other players out there that got a good idea bout hots? That's what I intentially wanted to say. Sorry for misunderstanding. I agree with you to a certain extent. Invite tournaments generally give the same players the limelight all the time. However, invitational tournaments are the easiest tournaments to structure, they generally provide really good entertainment, thus creating high viewing figures. I am organising an invitational just now (see this thread), but I most certainly plan on doing open tournaments.
we are running both types of tournaments and we might thinking about switching ZOTAC Cup to Heart of the Swarm Beta but at first there have to be enough players with access to the beta. At the moment it doesn't make any sense to create a HoTs beta open tournament.
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beasty could just push and kill inori, he's up 50 supply
and then that happened.
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dont underestimate the power of protoss MCDayC
aaaand delivered
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Nah, that was like the worst possible max vs max engage for Beasty, and it still came out even supply afterwards.
Tanks targetting pylons, no observers sniped, widow mines not pre burrowed, tanks all clumped together, whole army pinned against a wall
Beasty dun goofed
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the widow mines were burowed. he lost his 50 supply lead to get even and its "ok"?
you cant engage protoss at all with mech right now. you always need 8 ghosts 20 battle hellions 20 vikings etc
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like RIGHT THERE, really good positioning, spread tank line, a couple of widow mines got off on clumps, and now the supply is almost equalised.
Of course, Beasty's had his economy ravaged, so inori massively remaxed, and Terran can do nothing, but still.
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inori could have amoved and win easily. at this stage he needs a ton of ghost
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On September 26 2012 01:28 Tppz! wrote: the widow mines were burowed. he lost his 50 supply lead to get even and its "ok"?
you cant engage protoss at all with mech right now. you always need 8 ghosts 20 battle hellions 20 vikings etc what, he wasn't 50 supply ahead at all, he was max vs max at the battle, had the worst possible engagement and came out only slightly behind.
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mech still has problems vs toss, I think widow mines cost maybe a bit too much supply, etc etc, but imo its not all the doom and gloom that some people think.
Also, I thought that game was pretty cool, from a spectator point of view, getting the tank lines set up and the widow mines placed has a lot of tension, and inori used a lot of drops to break Terran's economy.
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On September 26 2012 01:31 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 01:28 Tppz! wrote: the widow mines were burowed. he lost his 50 supply lead to get even and its "ok"?
you cant engage protoss at all with mech right now. you always need 8 ghosts 20 battle hellions 20 vikings etc what, he wasn't 50 supply ahead at all, he was max vs max at the battle, had the worst possible engagement and came out only slightly behind.
trading a lot of gas-expensive units for zealots isnt "coming out slightly behind". he had no money to build an army after you lost the first one. you will get rolled
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Where mech fails 1-1-1 still works.
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@EmpireBeastyqt hots mech is as awful as in wol
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So it looks like Morrow is switching back to Terran completely with HotS? Every time I see him, he's playing T.
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welp, this game should be interesting
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I don't know how this will end, but I am loving how it looks.
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On September 26 2012 01:33 MCDayC wrote: mech still has problems vs toss, I think widow mines cost maybe a bit too much supply, etc etc, but imo its not all the doom and gloom that some people think.
Also, I thought that game was pretty cool, from a spectator point of view, getting the tank lines set up and the widow mines placed has a lot of tension, and inori used a lot of drops to break Terran's economy.
Blizzard seems to want to keep widow miens at 2 supply but get them to a point where they are worth the 2 supply. I think it's the worse choice. I'd love low supply mine field instead of huge damage single mine. :/
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On September 26 2012 02:35 AlternativeEgo wrote:@EmpireBeastyqt hots mech is as awful as in wol Well, you know, in the end they essentially didn't change anything. By the way, has Morrow fully switched to T?
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Morrow have been streaming hots terran about 10h/day lately.
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On September 26 2012 02:47 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 01:33 MCDayC wrote: mech still has problems vs toss, I think widow mines cost maybe a bit too much supply, etc etc, but imo its not all the doom and gloom that some people think.
Also, I thought that game was pretty cool, from a spectator point of view, getting the tank lines set up and the widow mines placed has a lot of tension, and inori used a lot of drops to break Terran's economy. Blizzard seems to want to keep widow miens at 2 supply but get them to a point where they are worth the 2 supply. I think it's the worse choice. I'd love low supply mine field instead of huge damage single mine. :/
Wait...
Why would you want little damage when you could have terrible, terrible damage?
I don't understand. (/s)
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That fight didn't look good. It seems mech in TvP died with the warhound.
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this looks like a new kind of deathball for p
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How do you kill carrier tempest archon :o
Btw, good job blizzard at making unit that isn't part of the deathball... Oh wait.. (-_ç(-
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wow.... no chance for morrow, hurt to see that... lot of viking being destroyed so easely
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On September 26 2012 02:53 RolleMcKnolle wrote:this looks like a new kind of deathball for p
Maxed Carrier/Tempest 1 to 1 ratio?
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i guess ghosts + vikings, as long as you can emp mommaship and archons it should be okay... at least i hope so
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Okay, you just make more vikings and upgrade them. :>
I hope this game don't start a trend in future HOTS, because this is fucking boring
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On September 26 2012 02:55 Noocta wrote: Okay, you just make more vikings and upgrade them. :>
I hope this game don't start a trend in future HOTS, because this is fucking boring
Indeed it is, but it's fun seeing it the 1st 3-4 times.
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Amazing job with HOTS blizz, so glad to see that last remnants of a midgame removed.
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On September 26 2012 02:55 Noocta wrote: Okay, you just make more vikings and upgrade them. :>
I hope this game don't start a trend in future HOTS, because this is fucking boring true. Air p doesn't seem to complement the other protoss units but just makes up another deathball. So that's boring again...
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Man Terran needs to have another mechanical anti-air unit for HOTS now that Protoss gets so much new Air.....
Just vikings might work, but we already see vikings almost every single game.... =/
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Looks like terran needs the goliath >.<
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hmm.. the only unit that can fight vs air Protoss is vikings... but vikings get destroyed by archons and all protoss air units... i dont like this, mech wont stand a chance until we have AA.
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I just don't understand why they wont give mezch a ground to air unit that isn't only good versus muta.
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Guys, calm down, Morrow had no idea Toss was massing air untill he was like 150 supply of Hellion/Tank.. BC/Ghost + Vikings would seal the deal, or just a good timing.. That was not a good example of mech TvP in Hots..
edit: Also, this map is retarded.
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On September 26 2012 03:07 Everlong wrote: Guys, calm down, Morrow had no idea Toss was massing air untill he was like 150 supply of Hellion/Tank.. BC/Ghost + Vikings would seal the deal, or just a good timing.. That was not a good example of mech TvP in Hots..
That seems like a bad time to find out that protoss has gone mass air units. I don't think you can recover from that.
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On September 26 2012 03:07 Everlong wrote: Guys, calm down, Morrow had no idea Toss was massing air untill he was like 150 supply of Hellion/Tank.. BC/Ghost + Vikings would seal the deal, or just a good timing.. That was not a good example of mech TvP in Hots..
Morrow actually should never have less ground units than he actually did due to the ability of the toss to rebuild his army through warp gate technique.
Terran just needs a 160+ food army to win g iven the current design. If terran got a better anti AA ground unit, however, they might have a better chance.
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On September 26 2012 03:09 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 03:07 Everlong wrote: Guys, calm down, Morrow had no idea Toss was massing air untill he was like 150 supply of Hellion/Tank.. BC/Ghost + Vikings would seal the deal, or just a good timing.. That was not a good example of mech TvP in Hots.. That seems like a bad time to find out that protoss has gone mass air units. I don't think you can recover from that.
Sure, so guys, don't overreact with those statements..
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Morrow with the most random move out timing
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Everlong, I'm actually pretty sure he scanned the stargates and dropped 3-4 ports around 100 supply. So while it's true he could have figured out a better composition he wasn't exactly caught off guard.
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On September 26 2012 03:17 Kodak wrote: Everlong, I'm actually pretty sure he scanned the stargates and dropped 3-4 ports around 100 supply. So while it's true he could have figured out a better composition he wasn't exactly caught off guard.
No he could only have got a better composition if he had maphacked through the whole game. Since you can only guess roughly how many air vs ground units the protoss has, its practially impossible to get the exact correct amount of vikings. I think morrow had a cuoplpe of hellions and around 10-12 tanks + 2 ghosts. He should never have less than that IMO.
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I don't think the games are gonna end up being this ridiculously passive for long, I mean, the toss in this game had 6 zealots, a mothership, a tempest and 2 carriers at 15 minutes, there's got to be vulnerabilities in this
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On September 26 2012 03:17 Kodak wrote: Everlong, I'm actually pretty sure he scanned the stargates and dropped 3-4 ports around 100 supply. So while it's true he could have figured out a better composition he wasn't exactly caught off guard.
Well he saw Mothershit cloaking 3rd base with hellions, then he scanned and saw those stargates (obviously) and then he build starports. I'm pretty sure, this means "caught off guard".. Isn't it?
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On September 26 2012 03:19 MangoMountain wrote: I don't think the games are gonna end up being this ridiculously passive for long, I mean, the toss in this game had 6 zealots, a mothership, a tempest and 2 carriers at 15 minutes, there's got to be vulnerabilities in this
mass marine/marauder/medivac/viking i think?
i think morrow wants to test how good mech really is
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Needs more emps. Vikings get crushed.
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On September 26 2012 03:19 MangoMountain wrote: I don't think the games are gonna end up being this ridiculously passive for long, I mean, the toss in this game had 6 zealots, a mothership, a tempest and 2 carriers at 15 minutes, there's got to be vulnerabilities in this In the end, it all comes down to marines once again.
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wttff, again, why the late siege up? You have vikings and should be banking enough minerals to have infinite OC's and therefore scans. So frustrating to watch.
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This is like 200 times better to watch then WoL right now.
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hes trying to make blizz see that mech needs something else to be efective... hope DK and the rock watch this
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The tempest, carrier, archon composition seems really good. To do it properly you would need to delay the tech or you will just die to a early timing but it's a good late game composition.
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Carrier Tempest for teh win!
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more emps,pdd's and bcs should work ^^
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No, you cant fight Tempest/Carrier/Mothership with Hellion/Tank..
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Seems like the tempest is more useful than it seemed a while ago.
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On September 26 2012 03:22 Topin wrote: hes trying to make blizz see that mech needs something else to be efective... hope DK and the rock watch this
Blizzard has likely given up on mech. It's no accident that warhound was removed the same patch that carrier got put back in.
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To be fair that was controlled quite badly by Morrow. Especially when he clumped up his vikings right in front of the archons. Basically 2 archons destroyed his whole viking fleet with 2 shots.
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On September 26 2012 03:29 Redox wrote: To be fair that was controlled quite badly by Morrow. Especially when he clumped up his vikings right in front of the archons. Basically 2 archons destroyed his whole viking fleet with 2 shots.
Look at it the other way too, if we are being fair. The toss was just one giant ball of units, none of them were positioned in any sort of way, they just moved in for the kill and the tempests automatically stay to the back because of their range. Is it fair that a terran gets absolutely demolished when both guys a-move their armies into each other? Im not even sure that the archons were the whole problem, the tempests picked off the vikings pretty quickly as well.
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On September 26 2012 03:29 Redox wrote: To be fair that was controlled quite badly by Morrow. Especially when he clumped up his vikings right in front of the archons. Basically 2 archons destroyed his whole viking fleet with 2 shots.
He cantg really do anything else. He needs to focus fire or vikings will just target interceptors. And even flash wouldn't be able to split up vikings while focus firing.
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On September 26 2012 03:27 ShaDyNHG wrote: more emps,pdd's and bcs should work ^^ i would imagine bcs are complete shit against tempests because of range differences, slow speed and tempest +dmg to massive
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On September 26 2012 03:36 Jarree wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 03:27 ShaDyNHG wrote: more emps,pdd's and bcs should work ^^ i would imagine bcs are complete shit against tempests because of range differences, slow speed and tempest +dmg to massive this, thought the same.. vikings are the only effective AA "terran mech" have right now
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bc's have good armor and hp, u can tank tempest dmg. morrow also needs more emps.
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Man that series wasn't very cheerful for Terrans .
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On September 26 2012 03:33 CaptainCrush wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 03:29 Redox wrote: To be fair that was controlled quite badly by Morrow. Especially when he clumped up his vikings right in front of the archons. Basically 2 archons destroyed his whole viking fleet with 2 shots. Look at it the other way too, if we are being fair. The toss was just one giant ball of units, none of them were positioned in any sort of way, they just moved in for the kill and the tempests automatically stay to the back because of their range. Is it fair that a terran gets absolutely demolished when both guys a-move their armies into each other? Im not even sure that the archons were the whole problem, the tempests picked off the vikings pretty quickly as well.
Well thats the way its allways been. Terran have to micro their hearts out to win engagements while the other races arent nearly as dependent on micro
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On September 26 2012 03:41 ShaDyNHG wrote: bc's have good armor and hp, u can tank tempest dmg. morrow also needs more emps.
I'm taking you as a troll at this point, especially since you only have 4 posts.... If you honestly believe that BC's will beat tempests while taking bonus dmg then you probably need to go find yourself a new game to play.
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What happened in the 3rd Morrow game? I could swear I was gone only for 5 minutes.
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Does anyone know the Warrior/soldier songs name which was before this rap one?
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The Warrior Song (look it up on youtube)
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On September 26 2012 03:43 Solarist wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 03:33 CaptainCrush wrote:On September 26 2012 03:29 Redox wrote: To be fair that was controlled quite badly by Morrow. Especially when he clumped up his vikings right in front of the archons. Basically 2 archons destroyed his whole viking fleet with 2 shots. Look at it the other way too, if we are being fair. The toss was just one giant ball of units, none of them were positioned in any sort of way, they just moved in for the kill and the tempests automatically stay to the back because of their range. Is it fair that a terran gets absolutely demolished when both guys a-move their armies into each other? Im not even sure that the archons were the whole problem, the tempests picked off the vikings pretty quickly as well. Well thats the way its allways been. Terran have to micro their hearts out to win engagements while the other races arent nearly as dependent on micro
Yet terran didn't a move. Terrans still has to siege up, and shift target fire with vikings.
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hahahaha the kidnap ability looks fun xD
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On September 26 2012 03:51 Khaldor wrote: The Warrior Song (look it up on youtube) Thanks a ton. Goes straight to gym playlist!
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Not super enthusiastic about what I saw today overall. The new units aren't being used as much as I had hoped for. Battles still feel very much like I'm watching WoL but on new tilesets.
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On September 26 2012 03:44 pmp10 wrote: What happened in the 3rd Morrow game? I could swear I was gone only for 5 minutes.
i played some kind of warpprism all in with 6g and a goldexpansion
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I somehow missed the first two games between Morrow and Tarra - is there someplace to watch them now? I could only find the replay files (which I can't play without HOTS).
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I like the toss stargate opening as a viewer, but I think if Hyun had just attacked it would be game over pretty fast.
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Never heard of Tarrantius before this one but 3-0 vs MorroW and 2-3 vs HyuN is quite impressive. Will be interesting to see if he can make a name for himself when HotS takes over.
Edit: 18 kills for mothership junior? Doesn't that one cost like 50-50?? :D
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collapsible rock tower debrees ;DDDDDDD
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Tournaments shouldn't pay prices if the players are no shows in the finals.
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really unprofessional, these players should simply not receive invites anymore.
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That is pretty disrespectful to not show up for the finals. I'm a fan of kas and its really disappointing to hear that he would do such a thing ;( There are alot of players that would kill to be invited to tournaments.
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On September 27 2012 03:20 Frankon wrote: Tournaments shouldn't pay prices if the players are no shows in the finals. Then that's unfair to HyuN... Kas's second place money should be forfeit and spread throughout the rest of the prize spots though
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should have given Tarrantius the 3rd spot and let inori play hyun.
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On September 27 2012 03:41 ReachTheSky wrote: That is pretty disrespectful to not show up for the finals. I'm a fan of kas and its really disappointing to hear that he would do such a thing ;( There are alot of players that would kill to be invited to tournaments. That's pretty consistent for this tournament series. Two of the other four tournaments semi-finals and finals had to be postponed because one or two of the participating Koreans didn't show up.
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On September 27 2012 03:58 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 03:20 Frankon wrote: Tournaments shouldn't pay prices if the players are no shows in the finals. Then that's unfair to HyuN... Kas's second place money should be forfeit and spread throughout the rest of the prize spots though Or third place winner should play Hyun and if he wins he gets second place
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no vods again
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On September 27 2012 04:54 xcelia wrote:no vods again Give it a few days. I imagine they will be up by this time next week.
And while the whole forfeiting finals thing is disappointing it's fully within player rights to do so. It's the reputation of him as a player and that of his team should suffer - especially since it's not the first HotS tournament Kas abandons due to pokerstrategy league. Arbitrary money rearrangements because the audience was not entertained will not lead to anything good.
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it is said that empirekas has serious problems with his internet provider.
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On September 27 2012 05:10 pmp10 wrote:Give it a few days. I imagine they will be up by this time next week. And while the whole forfeiting finals thing is disappointing it's fully within player rights to do so. It's the reputation of him as a player and that of his team should suffer - especially since it's not the first HotS tournament Kas abandons due to pokerstrategy league. Arbitrary money rearrangements because the audience was not entertained will not lead to anything good. Well adding a line to tournament rules that forfeiting a match means forfeiting the price money would do the trick.
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Oh god, not more "invite only tournaments."
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On September 27 2012 05:27 StavrosHL wrote: it is said that empirekas has serious problems with his internet provider. no man he played bo100000 with GLSnute in pokerstrategy league
as much as i love kas, imo he should be banned from this tourney. Things like that just should not exist
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On September 27 2012 05:27 StavrosHL wrote: it is said that empirekas has serious problems with his internet provider.
No he double booked tournaments.
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