2016 Tour de France - Page 14
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30538 Posts
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LennX
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30538 Posts
Or maybe just a mechanical, looking at the footage of him standing next to the road Meh nothing happens in the GC group. Sky train neutralised it all boring | ||
Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
On July 17 2016 23:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Damn Alaphillipe crashed. He also crashed in the Time Trial: Or maybe just a mechanical, looking at the footage of him standing next to the road Meh nothing happens in the GC group. Sky train neutralised it all boring Wow, that looks scary as shit, unbelievable that he didn't get seriously injured. Wout Poels alone pulled for most of the climb, caught Valverde+Aru and Bardet and made it almost impossible for anyone else to try to attack. And did you see that fake attack by Froome? So funny, bet everyone crapped themselves. | ||
Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
Saturday: https://www.strava.com/activities/642560340 A small ride with the only 300+ climb on my area. Unfortunately it has a slight downhill part which kinda screws the VAM. Did decent and while I got my PR, I felt awful from the start, which has been happening for the whole week. Sunday: https://www.strava.com/activities/643686128 This time almost a 100k ride but very chill (unlike the weather, up to 38ºC), got 1570m elevation. Couldn't do more else I would start the week already tired and screw the rest of the training. I'm sure people can easily do better in all 3 categories but hey, this is what I got ^^ | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
On July 18 2016 03:20 Gjhc wrote: Got in 2 rides this weekend: Saturday: https://www.strava.com/activities/642560340 A small ride with the only 300+ climb on my area. Unfortunately it has a slight downhill part which kinda screws the VAM. Did decent and while I got my PR, I felt awful from the start, which has been happening for the whole week. Sunday: https://www.strava.com/activities/643686128 This time almost a 100k ride but very chill (unlike the weather, up to 38ºC), got 1570m elevation. Couldn't do more else I would start the week already tired and screw the rest of the training. I'm sure people can easily do better in all 3 categories but hey, this is what I got ^^ Bad legs or not that's a solid climb for 15'! I'll probably be getting out on Tue/Wed for my rides, but not looking forward to the weather with foretasted temps of 35+C. | ||
FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
Ugh, we've had thunderstorm warnings for the last 4 days (we've already had 104mm of rain as of July 15th, versus 65mm last July, and July is the 2nd wettest month here. I've been wanting to go today, but it's been a mixture of that and getting addicted to this silly computer game and being lazy. Quite unhappy with myself, I relatively frequently go into these unproductive phases for a couple days to a week. Anyway, you should extend the contest until the end of the TdF L_Master! I'm definitely set on going out this TdF. Tomorrow should be good, last chance for sprinters who are not Cavendish, and with 6.5% climb for 600m, 1km from the finish line, should be a good stage for someone like Sagan. | ||
Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On July 18 2016 07:16 L_Master wrote: Bad legs or not that's a solid climb for 15'! I'll probably be getting out on Tue/Wed for my rides, but not looking forward to the weather with foretasted temps of 35+C. Nice ride! I will probably post something too gbut it will be on the 26th at the earliest | ||
Agathon
France1505 Posts
Sagan ! | ||
Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
On July 19 2016 00:27 Agathon wrote: Sagan ! Sagan with that throw to the line, amazing. | ||
FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
Also turns out that Kristoff is my best pick after that skepticism at the beginning. Stage 17 is going to be hella good, I'm very excited. | ||
Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
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L_Master
United States7946 Posts
On July 18 2016 15:33 FiWiFaKi wrote: Nice job Gjhc! Ugh, we've had thunderstorm warnings for the last 4 days (we've already had 104mm of rain as of July 15th, versus 65mm last July, and July is the 2nd wettest month here. I've been wanting to go today, but it's been a mixture of that and getting addicted to this silly computer game and being lazy. Quite unhappy with myself, I relatively frequently go into these unproductive phases for a couple days to a week. Anyway, you should extend the contest until the end of the TdF L_Master! I'm definitely set on going out this TdF. Tomorrow should be good, last chance for sprinters who are not Cavendish, and with 6.5% climb for 600m, 1km from the finish line, should be a good stage for someone like Sagan. I know that feeling. Not so much with cycling but other things yea. And yea, I'll say people can go till the end if they want. | ||
FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On July 19 2016 09:15 L_Master wrote: I know that feeling. Not so much with cycling but other things yea. And yea, I'll say people can go till the end if they want. Yeah, cycling is usually one of the last things to go, keeping in touch with people, gym workouts, and my job search is usually what's dropped first. I just had two pretty good job interviews for jobs I wanted, and just got rejected this morning for the second one, so that's a bit unfortunate, though I was a bit nervous for both and I knew I didn't do a great job. Anyway, I biked to University today (I'm more productive here with my job hunt), just 22km (though I still have to go back today), and holy shit, most brutal bike ride I've had in a while (took me maybe 1h05-1h10). I really forgot how brutal a strong headwind is to bike into. Today it was very windy at 40km/hr~, and it's been a while since I've been going up a 1-2% gradient on small front ring, and 3rd largest back ring and at full gas. I was almost at a standstill at the 7% 0.5km portion near the end of the route. Hopefully the wind stays the same, and makes going back a breeze. Respect the headwind! | ||
DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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Gjhc
Portugal161 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
And when you're someone like Yates or Mollema, you just have nobody to help you attack at all, so not much you can do. Froome is just too strong and nothing can be done unfortunately. What happened with TJVG today? Either way, looks like he's going to repeat his 2015 performance... It'll be interesting to follow Porte at least, and see whether he can make that podium. edit: Also nice win for Zakarin, good to see he has decent form. I was going to pick him for GC, so I'm glad that there was some merit to that thinking. Majka with a massive lead on the Polka Dot jersey, wow... It's such an odd Jersey, I don't even know what it says about a rider that has it, definitely not that they are the best climber though. | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
I think teammate help is seriously overrated on climbs like these. When you're going 15-20kph the benefits from drafting are really minimal. Maybe 5w. Wondering what is going to come out as far as what is plaguing Quintana. Given his form he is quite clearly dealing with some issue. Bummer. He lost far too much time including and leading up to the TT, but he is the only guy in the peloton that climbs better than Froome and would have a hope of winning. MTA: Yea, I don't really understand polka jersey competition. Not sure what it is designed to measure. Best climber that's not a GC guy? Best breakaway climber? I kinda ignore it. Same sorta with the green, although that more as a result of how ridiculous Sagan is; but you really could rename it the Sagan jersey. | ||
FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
0% - 80.5% 1% - 56.3% 2% - 38.3% 3% - 25.7% 4% - 17.2% 5% - 11.6% 6% - 8.0% 8% - 4.1% 10% - 2.3% 12% - 1.4% 14% - 0.9% 16% - 0.6% 18% - 0.5% 20% - 0.3% And wind tunnel tests suggest that the air resistance figure is reduced by 35-50% when riding behind another rider. So riding at 300W on the standard 8% climb suggests they'd be getting a 12W boost. However they're lighter (I think I used a figure of 77-80kg, don't recall exactly), and they also generate more power, thus they ride faster... I used a fairly typical Cd and A values, an air density at 1200m~ elevation, power transmission efficiency of 0.97, and a rolling resistance coefficient of 0.005. And since they ride faster, the air resistance component is even larger, and their savings would be around 20W, which I think is a fairly significant number. | ||
FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
I associate the yellow jersey with being the best climber, and since we value that the most, it's the person who wins the entire TdF. I suppose there's also a bit of TT that goes into it, but overall, being able to stay in the peloton on flat stages doesn't scream oh wow, this guy is so well rounded... Getting good finishes with sprints, tough descents, hills... In my eyes it's like the best classics rider should be the one who wins the Green Jersey, though right now it emphasis the sprinters a bit more. Personally I think the intermediate sprints should only be worth 10-15 points, but anyway. But yeah, currently the KoM jersey is for a decent rider who is willing to consistently go into the breakaway, kind of like some extension to the most combative award. Either way, it's something I ignore as well. | ||
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