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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
March 28 2017 04:00 GMT
#1281
Every week I try to highlight an interesting read or graphic or video that I find... 3/27/2017:-- "How has every NBA team fared on both ends of the floor since the All-Star break?" twitter.com | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
March 28 2017 04:13 GMT
#1282
very brave of lebron james managing to get himself off the floor without a stretcher... credit to teh EMTs for rushing LBJ immediately to the hospital. https://streamable.com/xzmzc Lebron is toughing it out. he is probably in a lot of pain but he doesn't want any one to worry about him. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19019206/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-takes-elbow-back-leaves-game | ||
slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
March 28 2017 05:19 GMT
#1283
On March 28 2017 12:19 cLutZ wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2017 11:43 Jerubaal wrote: On March 28 2017 11:40 cLutZ wrote: On March 28 2017 11:05 Jerubaal wrote: Are the Cavs in real trouble? Depends how much you believe in conspiracy theories. Meaning that the league powers will send them to the Finals? Ha! I daresay such an accusation hardly even rises to the level of conspiracy. Perhaps the work of an amateur or neutered conspiracist. No no. Even a casual observer knows the Association will endeavor to make the Cavs appear competitive when they reach the finals, as they have done for two years already. He will note Tristan Thompson's 55th straight uncalled over the back foul. That Draymond Green will best Lebron in a petty sparring contest only to have that victory rescinded "on review". Perhaps they will even endeavor to have the great Witch Doctor Stephen A. Smith put a hex on Lebron's opponent (as he did to cast an empowering spell on Ray Allen in 2014). The extent of their efforts is truly beyond limit. But, more seriously, Lebron, for a superstar, and TT for a good roleplayer are two of the players one which their playoff performances can be most affected by refereeing. If refs apply "Shaq rules" properly to Lebron (aka you, Shaq committed the first foul and we didn't call it, so we are letting minor hacks go) he gets fewer FTs, lower FG%, etc. If they go only halfway (let Shaq initiate contact, call petty hacks anyways) you have to 2015 Spurs him to win. And Thompson, jesus, he should foul out in under 10 minutes of gametime every playoff game. One year late for both of those dates there It's interesting now that I think about what you brought up, though. From what I've read, Lebron does get "Shaq'ed", missing out on foul calls because he's so strong, but he's also the goto example when people talk about "superstar calls". | ||
cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
March 28 2017 06:48 GMT
#1284
On March 28 2017 14:19 slowbacontron wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2017 12:19 cLutZ wrote: On March 28 2017 11:43 Jerubaal wrote: On March 28 2017 11:40 cLutZ wrote: On March 28 2017 11:05 Jerubaal wrote: Are the Cavs in real trouble? Depends how much you believe in conspiracy theories. Meaning that the league powers will send them to the Finals? Ha! I daresay such an accusation hardly even rises to the level of conspiracy. Perhaps the work of an amateur or neutered conspiracist. No no. Even a casual observer knows the Association will endeavor to make the Cavs appear competitive when they reach the finals, as they have done for two years already. He will note Tristan Thompson's 55th straight uncalled over the back foul. That Draymond Green will best Lebron in a petty sparring contest only to have that victory rescinded "on review". Perhaps they will even endeavor to have the great Witch Doctor Stephen A. Smith put a hex on Lebron's opponent (as he did to cast an empowering spell on Ray Allen in 2014). The extent of their efforts is truly beyond limit. But, more seriously, Lebron, for a superstar, and TT for a good roleplayer are two of the players one which their playoff performances can be most affected by refereeing. If refs apply "Shaq rules" properly to Lebron (aka you, Shaq committed the first foul and we didn't call it, so we are letting minor hacks go) he gets fewer FTs, lower FG%, etc. If they go only halfway (let Shaq initiate contact, call petty hacks anyways) you have to 2015 Spurs him to win. And Thompson, jesus, he should foul out in under 10 minutes of gametime every playoff game. One year late for both of those dates there It's interesting now that I think about what you brought up, though. From what I've read, Lebron does get "Shaq'ed", missing out on foul calls because he's so strong, but he's also the goto example when people talk about "superstar calls". Lebron does get "Shaq'ed" in that people hack his arms as he goes up after he clearly pushes off or commits a charge during the drive. This is a proper application of the "Shaq Rules". Of course, in other games, or at different times during the same game the first pushoff (and often with LBJ traveling) is ignored, and the arm contact is called, thus "superstar calls". It all stems from a failure to properly call offensive fouls (starting with illegal screens), of course. Edit: Jesus Christ. If Lebron ever lives down this "elbowed in the back" the media and the rest of the NBA players have no credibility on any subject ever. That is a back massage. People pay for that kind of thing! | ||
slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
March 28 2017 09:24 GMT
#1285
As for the back thing, I don't expect it to affect him in the future, but if it was a stinger or something like that, his reaction on the floor might be understandable. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
March 28 2017 14:27 GMT
#1286
On March 28 2017 15:48 cLutZ wrote: Show nested quote + On March 28 2017 14:19 slowbacontron wrote: On March 28 2017 12:19 cLutZ wrote: On March 28 2017 11:43 Jerubaal wrote: On March 28 2017 11:40 cLutZ wrote: On March 28 2017 11:05 Jerubaal wrote: Are the Cavs in real trouble? Depends how much you believe in conspiracy theories. Meaning that the league powers will send them to the Finals? Ha! I daresay such an accusation hardly even rises to the level of conspiracy. Perhaps the work of an amateur or neutered conspiracist. No no. Even a casual observer knows the Association will endeavor to make the Cavs appear competitive when they reach the finals, as they have done for two years already. He will note Tristan Thompson's 55th straight uncalled over the back foul. That Draymond Green will best Lebron in a petty sparring contest only to have that victory rescinded "on review". Perhaps they will even endeavor to have the great Witch Doctor Stephen A. Smith put a hex on Lebron's opponent (as he did to cast an empowering spell on Ray Allen in 2014). The extent of their efforts is truly beyond limit. But, more seriously, Lebron, for a superstar, and TT for a good roleplayer are two of the players one which their playoff performances can be most affected by refereeing. If refs apply "Shaq rules" properly to Lebron (aka you, Shaq committed the first foul and we didn't call it, so we are letting minor hacks go) he gets fewer FTs, lower FG%, etc. If they go only halfway (let Shaq initiate contact, call petty hacks anyways) you have to 2015 Spurs him to win. And Thompson, jesus, he should foul out in under 10 minutes of gametime every playoff game. One year late for both of those dates there It's interesting now that I think about what you brought up, though. From what I've read, Lebron does get "Shaq'ed", missing out on foul calls because he's so strong, but he's also the goto example when people talk about "superstar calls". Lebron does get "Shaq'ed" in that people hack his arms as he goes up after he clearly pushes off or commits a charge during the drive. This is a proper application of the "Shaq Rules". Of course, in other games, or at different times during the same game the first pushoff (and often with LBJ traveling) is ignored, and the arm contact is called, thus "superstar calls". It all stems from a failure to properly call offensive fouls (starting with illegal screens), of course. Edit: Jesus Christ. If Lebron ever lives down this "elbowed in the back" the media and the rest of the NBA players have no credibility on any subject ever. That is a back massage. People pay for that kind of thing! If the NBA called traveling on anyone going to the hoop I would be shocked. That is not LBJ thing that is a nba thing lol | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
March 28 2017 14:52 GMT
#1287
is this a shot at the RJ/Frye Podcast Project? i've seen enough... Cleveland has no chance to win the championship this year. the east had virtual parity with the west last year. not so this year... the east is getting stomped. whoever comes out of the east dies an ugly death in the NBA Finals. On March 28 2017 13:00 MassHysteria wrote: 3/27/2017:-- "How has every NBA team fared on both ends of the floor since the All-Star break?" GSW best defense in NBA without Durant? hmmmm | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
March 28 2017 16:22 GMT
#1288
2016 GS OKC Spurs Clips Griz blazers rockets and mavs = Cavs raptors heat hawks celtics hornets pacers pistons? Like I get the Cavs a shot at any one is the west but the top 10 teams last year 8 of them were in the west. As for GS with Durrant, were they not like 1-3 with him as well? Weren't they like bottom of top 10 last year. I think Durrant has helped or at least broken even. Hysteria is there a preallstar graphic. As for Korver, he was a awful defender for years, you noticing it one game doesn't mean you knew about his injury. You even stated that you had seen him maybe 10 times in his career? Are you really suggesting based on that you predicted he was gimped? come on man. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
March 28 2017 16:31 GMT
#1289
it was great arguing with people about how crap the east was.. then a 57 win team from the east beats a 73 win team from the west. we sure saw what those 73 wins were worth when it really came down to it. the east has <530 wins this year. the east is getting stomped. its not close. last year it was close. slight edge to the west as the win//loss record indicates. On March 29 2017 01:22 JimmiC wrote: As for Korver, he was a awful defender for years, you noticing it one game doesn't mean you knew about his injury. You even stated that you had seen him maybe 10 times in his career? Are you really suggesting based on that you predicted he was gimped? come on man. i knew nothing about his injury. i saw he was slower than usual. now we know why. i made no prediction. i did notice he looked really really slow and worse than usual. my observations are congruent with his now revealed injured status. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
March 28 2017 16:52 GMT
#1290
It's funny how you claim you noticed him slower then "usual" but in a early post talk about how you have barley watched him. And didn't know he was known as a poor defender before that. Classic JimmyJ flip flop. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
March 28 2017 16:52 GMT
#1291
On March 29 2017 01:52 JimmiC wrote: That a east team won last year does not mean there was parity between the conferences. You can't honestly believe that? It's funny how you claim you noticed him slower then "usual" but in a early post talk about how you have barley watched him. And didn't know he was known as a poor defender before that. Classic JimmyJ flip flop. no, i said i've seen him play in ~10 games and was going on my impressionistic memory of him. so nope my observation was congruent with his status. u look silly for being overly critical of my observation. u should've just let it play out. now all the info is in. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
March 28 2017 17:05 GMT
#1292
On March 29 2017 01:52 JimmyJRaynor wrote: how? 608-622. that is how. again, very slight edge to the west. remove the 2 tank teams Philly and the Lakers and its dead even. but, i said "east" not "every team except those 2 really bad teams that don't really count because they started playing for draft position:". You don't have to look at the records you just have to be a fan of basketball to know that the best 5 teams last year were the Cavs Warriors Spurs Clippers and Thunder. Those were the 5 teams that a legit shot at the title. Is that parity? I could go back into the thread and show all your posts about how the raptors and other teams in the east had no chance and blah blah. This is the wrong hill for you to die on. Let it go, there has not been parity between the east and the west in the NBA in forever. The west has been stronger and the east has had a super strong team that has a easy road to the finals and then competes with the team that made it out of the thunder dome that is the west. edit: I'd also like to point out how Ujiri is way to smart to go for it because they have no chance vs the cavs blah blah blah. It's odd how you never bring up those gems? | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
March 28 2017 17:08 GMT
#1293
the reason all these teams have similar winning percentages against each conference is due to the fact that the conferences were close to equal. sry this was argued to death last year. and my opinion is reflected in the #s not in some dream world bias. 3 west teams had a shot at knocking off GS. they failed. a 57 win team from the east did it. its over. this is boring stuff from last year... let's watch something fun from this year. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
March 28 2017 17:36 GMT
#1294
On March 29 2017 02:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote: the playoff teams in the east all had similar winning percentages against each conference. Cleveland and Atlanta had a better record against the west. the reason all these teams have similar winning percentages against each conference is due to the fact that the conferences were close to equal. sry this was argued to death last year. and my opinion is reflected in the #s not in some dream world bias. 3 west teams had a shot at knocking off GS. they failed. a 57 win team from the east did it. its over. this is boring stuff from last year... let's watch something fun from this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nRqDTh50k4#t=4s Quotes from JimmyJ about raptors " even they win the EC they have zero chance of beating whoever comes out of the West" "i'm talking about what Ujiri knows about his own team. Not what Vegas is speculating. And I am not talking about Winning the eastern conference i am talking about winning an NBA title. Specifically, this statement." Raps having 0 chance. It would be easy to find more where you fully admit, even argue that no team especially the raptors out of the east have any chance vs who comes out of the west. Infact this discussion started by you saying with how the cavs are looking no one has a chance. Well the wizards celts are much better then last year and if lowry gets healthy so are the raptors. So if there was such parity last year? And more teams got better then got worse from last year why is the east so bad? Even your own logic shows that the cavs were by far the best team in the east and them faltering is huge. Where as in the west now if the Warriors stumble or say face an injury to there best player (cough cough) do we not think the Spurs and rockets can't carry the torch? Or the Warriors are not still deadly? This was the same last year. this argument is classic you, you don't even believe it based on your past statements but because you said it, and your ego doesn't allow you to go "oops my bad" you fight to the wall on something everyone knows is crazy. This is up there with RJ being one of the most important free agents, and Ohio completely eliminating homlessness in the 80's ROLF | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
March 28 2017 17:55 GMT
#1295
On March 29 2017 02:36 JimmiC wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2017 02:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote: the playoff teams in the east all had similar winning percentages against each conference. Cleveland and Atlanta had a better record against the west. the reason all these teams have similar winning percentages against each conference is due to the fact that the conferences were close to equal. sry this was argued to death last year. and my opinion is reflected in the #s not in some dream world bias. 3 west teams had a shot at knocking off GS. they failed. a 57 win team from the east did it. its over. this is boring stuff from last year... let's watch something fun from this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nRqDTh50k4#t=4s Quotes from JimmyJ about raptors " even they win the EC they have zero chance of beating whoever comes out of the West" "i'm talking about what Ujiri knows about his own team. Not what Vegas is speculating. And I am not talking about Winning the eastern conference i am talking about winning an NBA title. Specifically, this statement." Raps having 0 chance. It would be easy to find more where you fully admit, even argue that no team especially the raptors out of the east have any chance vs who comes out of the west. Infact this discussion started by you saying with how the cavs are looking no one has a chance. Well the wizards celts are much better then last year and if lowry gets healthy so are the raptors. So if there was such parity last year? And more teams got better then got worse from last year why is the east so bad? Even your own logic shows that the cavs were by far the best team in the east and them faltering is huge. Where as in the west now if the Warriors stumble or say face an injury to there best player (cough cough) do we not think the Spurs and rockets can't carry the torch? Or the Warriors are not still deadly? This was the same last year. this argument is classic you, you don't even believe it based on your past statements but because you said it, and your ego doesn't allow you to go "oops my bad" you fight to the wall on something everyone knows is crazy. This is up there with RJ being one of the most important free agents, and Ohio completely eliminating homlessness in the 80's ROLF you are mixing up last year with this year. in the 2015-2016 season the east record was 608-622. the Raptors do have no chance of winning the NBA title this year. The east is a lot worse than the west this year. The east has 528 wins this year. It won't get anywhere near 608 wins of last year. again, i go by #s not wordy dreamworld pictures. Ujiri knows all this and this is why he has such a young bench and guys like Wright, Poetl, and Nogueira are getting so much playing time. The Raptors are developing for their long term future. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
March 28 2017 18:12 GMT
#1296
The celtics are worse then last year? The wizards are worse then the hawks were last year? I mean even the cavs based on your opinions of their players they should be better because who cares about Delladova? Those guys are getting lots of minutes right now because Lowry is injured and because they are the best options at their positions. It is not only a long term play. The raptors are trying to win (doubt they will succeed) because there best 3 players and in their prime and two of them may be gone in the off season. Again it just takesloosely following the NBA to know that 4 of the best 5 teams last year were in the west. Funny how in the above post "you go by the numbers" when most of the time you go "I go beyond the stats" How about you try common sense for a change. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
March 28 2017 18:18 GMT
#1297
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
March 28 2017 18:20 GMT
#1298
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cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
March 28 2017 18:33 GMT
#1299
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
March 28 2017 19:50 GMT
#1300
On March 29 2017 03:33 cLutZ wrote: Jesus fucking christ. We had something interesting going one, then ya'll just come in with nonsense and shit all over it. I get that I should just ignore his stupid comments but its fun for me to point out when he states the exact opposite of what he had posted earlier. That you think your posts are so fantastic does not make my posts bad. If you a specific example of something dumb you think I said go for and point it out. If you would like to point out one of the many stupid things JimmyJ has said go for it. If you would like to get jimmyj banned from the thread feel free to contact quantichawk on how he did it. That being said though it is a much friendlier thread it also gets about 3-5 posts a week now. | ||
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