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LeBron James’ inaugural Lakers season ends as a complete bust
“After consulting with our team doctors and medical staff, we have decided to hold LeBron out of games for the remainder of the season,’’ read the missive issued Saturday by basketball bosses Magic Johnson and Rob Pelinka. “This decision will allow his groin to fully heal, and is best for the future success of both LeBron and the Lakers.’’
The decision to shut him down, while completely understandable, serves as the perfect punctuation mark on a massive disappointment. “Four words that were once whispers of dreams can now be shouted across Los Angeles with a force that will rattle our sports landscape down to its historic core,’’ I wrote. “The King is coming.’’ That landscape has been rattled, all right, with the outlandish realization that maybe the Lakers would have been better without James. What great moments do you remember? Do you remember anything? Let’s see, there was his 44 points against Portland, his 51 points in Miami, his postgame hug with Dwyane Wade, his “activated’’ game against Houston, his late three-pointer against New Orleans. Does that about cover it? The list of James’ missteps is much longer, and starts from the beginning. There was his failure to hold an introductory news conference upon his signing in Los Angeles, a missed opportunity to begin building the bond with fans. Instead, he staged a Twitter pizza prank that left many locals waiting for his arrival at a Culver City restaurant. In a sign of things to come on the court, he never showed up. For his final indignity, in trying to create at least one dramatic game-winning moment, he had a last-second shot blocked by the New York Knicks’ Mario Hezonja.
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As a physician, I find this discussion very interesting.
On March 30 2019 09:10 JimmiC wrote:
Nba is different from NFL because it is a player driven league. There is no way the Spurs doctors or the 76'rs docs were not doing what they thought was best for those players for the long term.....
Medical science isn't perfect, people make different diagnosis's this doesn't mean that they are sticking it to anyone.
This statement is completely wrong. Doctors can push narratives if they want to. It has nothing to do with the fact that the NBA is a "player driven league." It's risky, but it can be done (for whatever reason) and I've seen it happen during my training, and i'd bet the farm that it happens regularly in big time pro sports like the NBA.
It's why you sometimes have ridiculously different diagnoses amongst team doctors and players' personal doctors/second opinions. And the agenda is painfully obvious to most doctors. Kawhi Leonard, recently, for example
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BS you are not a physician, or you lie on other threads. It is more likely that you are a PBU and showed up here because whatever.
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On April 01 2019 10:31 JimmiC wrote: BS you are not a physician, or you lie on other threads. It is more likely that you are a PBU and showed up here because whatever. what the fuck are you even talking about? where do I lie?
what is PBU?
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You started a thread about being a day trader. And now you are physician. Not to mention your grasp on science makes the whole doctor thing very unlikely.
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On April 01 2019 11:19 JimmiC wrote: You started a thread about being a day trader. And now you are physician.
I am a day trader. That is how i make a living
You realize me being a day trader does not exclude the possibility of me also being a doctor right? I dont lose my degree and license because i dont practice medicine
On April 01 2019 11:19 JimmiC wrote: Not to mention your grasp on science makes the whole doctor thing very unlikely.
lmfao. youre referring to that other thread.
you and your clique arent as smart as you think you are
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On April 01 2019 11:24 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2019 11:19 JimmiC wrote: You started a thread about being a day trader. And now you are physician. I am a day trader. That is how i make a living You realize me being a day trader does not exclude the possibility of me also being a doctor right? I dont lose my degree and license because i dont practice medicine Show nested quote +On April 01 2019 11:19 JimmiC wrote: Not to mention your grasp on science makes the whole doctor thing very unlikely. lmfao. youre referring to that other thread. you and your clique arent as smart as you think you are
It makes it highly unlikely. And because of that and others highly unlikely that anything you say is true, or even in good faith. So bu-bye.
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Lebrons' biggest problem is that nobody is going to want to go there because he is past being the best player on a championship team and he doesn't seem willing to give up control.
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On April 01 2019 11:57 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2019 11:24 BerserkSword wrote:On April 01 2019 11:19 JimmiC wrote: You started a thread about being a day trader. And now you are physician. I am a day trader. That is how i make a living You realize me being a day trader does not exclude the possibility of me also being a doctor right? I dont lose my degree and license because i dont practice medicine On April 01 2019 11:19 JimmiC wrote: Not to mention your grasp on science makes the whole doctor thing very unlikely. lmfao. youre referring to that other thread. you and your clique arent as smart as you think you are It makes it highly unlikely. And because of that and others highly unlikely that anything you say is true, or even in good faith. So bu-bye. I hate internet arguments like this - one guy makes a claim, another makes a counterclaim, yet no one (or only one side) is willing to present a verifiable evidence.
Its like watching a shitty horror film where the entire conflict could have been resolved if only characters banded together instead of separating,.
Now, @BerserkSword, I do not pass any irrational or emotional judgment by virtue of someone arguing against me, and I am one not to judge, and I think you are in an accommodating and tolerant community (believe us, we see far far worse on a daily basis, what with JJ's hit and run style posting something controversial or blatantly silly and watching people get riled up by it), but if you are indeed a physician, post any supporting documents (covering any doxxing info of course) that you are indeed as you say you are.
For now, you are a regular TLer who might be a doctor. If by Friday (enough time right?), 5th of April 2019, you can come with the evidence, then JimmiC owes you an apology indeed. If not, then you are a regular TLer and a liar.
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On April 01 2019 20:59 Twinkle Toes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2019 11:57 JimmiC wrote:On April 01 2019 11:24 BerserkSword wrote:On April 01 2019 11:19 JimmiC wrote: You started a thread about being a day trader. And now you are physician. I am a day trader. That is how i make a living You realize me being a day trader does not exclude the possibility of me also being a doctor right? I dont lose my degree and license because i dont practice medicine On April 01 2019 11:19 JimmiC wrote: Not to mention your grasp on science makes the whole doctor thing very unlikely. lmfao. youre referring to that other thread. you and your clique arent as smart as you think you are It makes it highly unlikely. And because of that and others highly unlikely that anything you say is true, or even in good faith. So bu-bye. I hate internet arguments like this - one guy makes a claim, another makes a counterclaim, yet no one (or only one side) is willing to present a verifiable evidence. Its like watching a shitty horror film where the entire conflict could have been resolved if only characters banded together instead of separating,. Now, @BerserkSword, I do not pass any irrational or emotional judgment by virtue of someone arguing against me, and I am one not to judge, and I think you are in an accommodating and tolerant community (believe us, we see far far worse on a daily basis, what with JJ's hit and run style posting something controversial or blatantly silly and watching people get riled up by it), but if you are indeed a physician, post any supporting documents (covering any doxxing info of course) that you are indeed as you say you are. For now, you are a regular TLer who might be a doctor. If by Friday (enough time right?), 5th of April 2019, you can come with the evidence, then JimmiC owes you an apology indeed. If not, then you are a regular TLer and a liar.
I don't see any conflict. All I see is an insecure poster who is salty that I always destroy his argument in another topic and therefore tries telling everyone, in discussions im involved in, that I'm a troll or liar.
I dont care about JimmiC's apology and I dont care if he or you thinks I'm a liar lol
But, for the sake of showing him that he's wrong once again , it's no problem for me to do that
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For once? Odd statement for a new user to make. I'm sure you are right and I am completely off base.
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OMG you printed stuff off the internet. I get it you are a practicing doctor who just got bored of making way too much money and saving people life to decide to get into gambling, I mean day trading. It totally makes sense, just like how you know what users are like as a new user. My apologies, and as a reward to you for proving me wrong, I'll ignore you for a while! You're welcome.
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LOL
tell me if you think I printed this welch allyn stethoscope from my 3D printer so I know whether or not youre just a bad troll
Anyway, as I was saying, JimJRaynor made a lot of good points. Players who get second opinions outside of the organization, when it comes to major issues, are very smart. In fact, I recommend that all of you here, god forbid something serious happens to you, go get multiple opinions, especially if there is a potential conflic of interest (government doctors, company doctors, etc)
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So i dropped 100s on a stethoscope to have at the ready in case a user on the starcraft forum questions me being a doctor? LOL
Anyway, the purpose of getting a second opinion, in this context, is, in part, to protect yourself against conflicts of interest and potential consequences if the other party decides to act in its best interest rather than yours.
Youre absolutely clueless on this matter. NBA doctors have contracts and sponsorships with the teams. NBA teams give the right to treat their players to the doctors who bid the highest.
This, in most cases, is direct violation of medical ethics.
I'm not saying every team affiliated doctor is out to screw players. But it's definitely a concern and is DEFINITELY possible to get away with
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On April 02 2019 00:17 BerserkSword wrote: So i dropped 100s on a stethoscope to have at the ready in case a user on the starcraft forum questions me being a doctor? LOL
Anyway, the purpose of getting a second opinion, in this context, is, in part, to protect yourself against conflicts of interest and potential consequences if the other party decides to act in its best interest rather than yours.
Youre absolutely clueless on this matter. NBA doctors have contracts and sponsorships with the teams. NBA teams give the right to treat their players to the doctors who bid the highest.
This, in most cases, is direct violation of medical ethics.
I'm not saying every team affiliated doctor is out to screw players. But it's definitely a concern and is DEFINITELY possible to get away with There is many possibilities such as you live with a doctor, or your dad is one. Or you are one and were lying about being a day trader? How should I know?
Yes everything is possible and proving a negative is near impossible. Hence the reason conspiracy theories exist. I tend to just think, "what would be the benefit for a team to do what is best for a player vs getting them out there for a couple extra minutes one game?" What are the risks and what are the short and long term expected results?" I then expect that more often than not people will act under what helps there team the most.
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On April 02 2019 00:34 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2019 00:17 BerserkSword wrote: So i dropped 100s on a stethoscope to have at the ready in case a user on the starcraft forum questions me being a doctor? LOL
Anyway, the purpose of getting a second opinion, in this context, is, in part, to protect yourself against conflicts of interest and potential consequences if the other party decides to act in its best interest rather than yours.
Youre absolutely clueless on this matter. NBA doctors have contracts and sponsorships with the teams. NBA teams give the right to treat their players to the doctors who bid the highest.
This, in most cases, is direct violation of medical ethics.
I'm not saying every team affiliated doctor is out to screw players. But it's definitely a concern and is DEFINITELY possible to get away with There is many possibilities such as you live with a doctor, or your dad is one. Or you are one and were lying about being a day trader? How should I know? Yes everything is possible and proving a negative is near impossible. Hence the reason conspiracy theories exist. I tend to just think, "what would be the benefit for a team to do what is best for a player vs getting them out there for a couple extra minutes one game?" What are the risks and what are the short and long term expected results?" I then expect that more often than not people will act under what helps there team the most.
Doctors keep their diplomas, licenses, and stethoscopes at their offices. Mine are here with me at home because I quit. I already said I don't practice. I left medicine. I day trade now. what is so hard to understand?
You can expect and assume all you want about both the teams and their doctors, but the reality remains - many if not all of the agreements made between NBA doctors are unethical and it is really easy for a doctor to do what is not best for a patient (whether it's a doctor under the thumb of an organization, or a private doctor - the difference is that doctors with organizations lead to conflicts of interest), intentionally or unintentionally, and get away with it.
Your argument is literally based on your assumption that the NBA is not "evil" and the fact that you THINK you know what is a team would do for its best interests.
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On April 02 2019 00:53 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2019 00:34 JimmiC wrote:On April 02 2019 00:17 BerserkSword wrote: So i dropped 100s on a stethoscope to have at the ready in case a user on the starcraft forum questions me being a doctor? LOL
Anyway, the purpose of getting a second opinion, in this context, is, in part, to protect yourself against conflicts of interest and potential consequences if the other party decides to act in its best interest rather than yours.
Youre absolutely clueless on this matter. NBA doctors have contracts and sponsorships with the teams. NBA teams give the right to treat their players to the doctors who bid the highest.
This, in most cases, is direct violation of medical ethics.
I'm not saying every team affiliated doctor is out to screw players. But it's definitely a concern and is DEFINITELY possible to get away with There is many possibilities such as you live with a doctor, or your dad is one. Or you are one and were lying about being a day trader? How should I know? Yes everything is possible and proving a negative is near impossible. Hence the reason conspiracy theories exist. I tend to just think, "what would be the benefit for a team to do what is best for a player vs getting them out there for a couple extra minutes one game?" What are the risks and what are the short and long term expected results?" I then expect that more often than not people will act under what helps there team the most. Doctors keep their diplomas, licenses, and stethoscopes at their offices. Mine are here with me at home because I quit. I already said I don't practice. I left medicine. I day trade now. what is so hard to understand? You can expect and assume all you want about both the teams and their doctors, but the reality remains - many if not all of the agreements made between NBA doctors are unethical and it is really easy for a doctor to do what is not best for a patient (whether it's a doctor under the thumb of an organization, or a private doctor - the difference is that doctors with organizations lead to conflicts of interest), intentionally or unintentionally, and get away with it. Your argument is literally based on your assumption that the NBA is not "evil" and the fact that you THINK you know what is a team would do for its best interests.
When did you quit? And why?
My argument is simple and not what you said. It is that organizations will do whats in their best interest. Having healthy players for their career, or at the very least the length of their contracts is in their best interests. Keeping the players in the NBA happy is also huge since it is a player driven league.
When having a conspiracy theory you need at least the why to make sense.
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