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On June 15 2010 09:40 Pandain wrote: all i get is "Unable to load map." Any suggestions"?
Same here, "Unable to Load Replay" shows up about half way through the loading bar. I'd love to watch these if anyone has any solutions. I'm able to watch my own replays as well as ones downloaded through the SC2Manager interface itself.
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On June 14 2010 12:46 WCH wrote: sc manager working for patch 15/16?
yes.
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On June 14 2010 13:35 Turbo.Tactics wrote:So you were serious when you said: "1 more Zergnerf and I'm out!" ? I'd hate to lose you as a member of the swarm dude...
its a possibility. i havent decided one way or the other. if the zerg vs terran matchup doesn't get any better, more zergs might switch to terran. id prefer to stay zerg though, hate that marauder unit.
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On June 14 2010 13:52 schiznak wrote: Artosis, i know the general consensus is that 1-basing as protoss against zerg is un-doable
What do you generally do against a 4-5gate allin from a protoss?
you just have to learn to make drones until the last second, and then wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over-defend. make like 6 spine crawlers, speedlings, hydras, use both queens with some transfusions, etc. the only thing you have to do is stop the attack.
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On June 14 2010 13:54 StayFrosty wrote: Artosis are you going to stick with Zerg on release or switch?
i hope to stick with zerg, i really do enjoy the race. i won't decide, or set rules on what will make me decide to switch now.
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On June 14 2010 13:58 dethrawr wrote: Thanks for the replays man, I'll be sure to analyse and find all your faults and use them against you next time I come across you in ladder.
LOL ok sounds good.
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On June 14 2010 14:12 Tump wrote: The Sc2 manager linked on the MYM site (at least one of the mirrors) is an older version and crashes for me with patch 16, trying to get the latest version (4.1.1?) to confirm.
try the first link, and the one in this thread as well. dont know which version they uploaded. its easy to find in the TL.net sc2 forums though!
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On June 14 2010 14:31 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 13:52 schiznak wrote: Artosis, i know the general consensus is that 1-basing as protoss against zerg is un-doable
What do you generally do against a 4-5gate allin from a protoss? spine crawler. MASS spine crawler. Edit: Lol, just by browsing the replays i have to say...manner up Artosis. These are random ladder games right? "u should consider quitting this game" Lol'd right there.
i was giving that newbie some really valuable, time-saving advice!
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The replays are not working for me either, getting "unable to load file." And yeah, ZERG FOR LIFE. I'm disappointed how many z's have switched to T already. The swarm is a blood oath.
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On June 14 2010 16:36 FlamingTurd wrote: Wowowow ty! Haven't had a chance to check em out yet but definitely will! Thnx again in advance <3
Serious Question: How are you able to afford living in such an expensive place there and devote so much time to playing/casting SCII? I've always wondered this especially since SC has been losing the attention lately. Have you saved up money to pay for your living expenses or are still somehow receiving an income?
I work in the eSports industry over here. I actually don't get to play enough SC2 currently, not nearly as much as I'd like to at least
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On June 14 2010 16:41 InfiniteIce wrote: Could you specify Tester's playername, or which replay it is? They are all just named in the [Recent] autosave format. I checked them out in SC2Gears, but (since I can't read korean too well...I actually tried sounding out every korean name but couldn't find any "tester", so maybe he's on another name?)
Thanks Artosis........this is fuckin' awesome.
Edit: I found out that tester's name should be 서기수 (? I think. Besides the obvious "TesteR") but I don't seem to see that in any of the replays. Sorry if I'm missing it, but do you happen to know which game it was? Unless SC2Gears is hating on me D:
Thank you again.
tester uses the id oGsSKS or maybe it was oGssSKS... one or the other. oGs is the top team in korea, SKS is his initials.
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On June 14 2010 17:24 Hikari wrote: First of all thank you for uploading a replay package.
Some of your opponents suck.... the terran with korean name has a huge stockpile of resources and in Atosis vs Ptosin he tried for a DT+stargate open with minimal defenses + no wall off...
I believe there is a thread here on TL which shows 9ov > 10 extractor trick. Do you think the person who did the study is incorrect?
I heard people on the asian server like cheese for breakfast (cheesy openings). From my observation you usually scout @ ~14th drone. How would you go about countering a possible proxy 2x 10gate? How about a zealot timing push with +1 weapon upgrade? (you seem to use roachs only in mid-game, after you get a hydra den, as if you are avoiding roachs!) What about a 7 rack reaper all-in cheese?
There is a muta v muta battle in steppes of war. Good use of queens to gain air superiority! I have a feeling that you are letting your opponent take a lot of map control (his mutas are tumor hunting+patrolling all the expansions). Is there a reason you choose not to a little more aggressive with your mutas?
@banelings. In Artosis vs Idra, given the long travel distance and the ov scout (idra would have loads of time to prepare). Why did you choose to continue with banelings?
Lots to address here. I'll do my best.
1) Yes, lots of players ranked highly on every server are complete garbage.
2) No, I'm trying to switch over to 9ov, but my brain is hardwired to automatically do 10+extractor trick. It will take me a few more days of practice to pound that in I'm sure.
3) Some people cheese, but far less than the US or EU servers (at least at the high levels). All my builds are designed to be able to stop the various cheeses you may see. There's a lot of thought put into my Overlord scouting patterns and spawning pool timings. Zealot timing push with +1 off of 1 base? Easy. I'll make roaches or a bunch of Spine Crawlers, matters the timing it comes out with. 7rax Reaper rushes are a total pain in the ass. I normally cancel my Hatchery, make some Roaches, and free-style from there (normally re-expanding).
4) I can't seem to remember exactly what happened in the early game on Steppes of War ZvZ, but I do recall the whole game overall quite well. I seem to recall I wanted a 100% victory, and felt that expanding, upgrading, and leaving no defensive holes, would lead to a sure win.
5) I had just switched over to Baneling play when I hit IdrA in that replay pack (was still trying to go Roaches before that). I figured I would probably lose it, but it would be a good learning experience.
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On June 14 2010 17:42 fevax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 12:37 kNyTTyM wrote:
You mentioned a roach into ultralisk style in your latest interview but that sounds pretty vulnerable to an immortal based play. Protoss should naturally build immortals upon seeing the roach base and that only helps his unit composition once you transition. Is it more of a hydra roach mix into ultralisks or straight on roach?
if you add some infestors with neural parasite into the mix, immortals should no longer be that much of a problem. Since roaches are so cheap compared to other units, you can easily afford infestors as many as needed.
Mixing in Hydras is a bit better IMO. Infestors are extremely gas heavy, and not exactly full-proof (any Colossuses or HT's with feedback can deal with them pretty fast.)
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On June 14 2010 17:45 G5 wrote: asian replay packs... whats next? a black replay pack? how about a latino rep pack? i sure don't know but what i do know is that if i put out a white replay pack i would be considered a racist. fucking double standards.
G5SUS
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Looking forward to watching all of them! Your previous pack helped me to start playing zerg.. at all in both sc:bw and sc2, that was probably the race I least understood and played. Now I find zerg so fun to play . Playing zerg helped me surprisingly much to improve my macto. Thank you!
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On June 14 2010 18:06 Gunman_csz wrote: Ty Artosis, we all <3 your contribution, dedication and commitment to the game and the community. By the way can you force the other three foreigners beside you ( Idra, Tasteless, and Apollo) to release a replay pack as well ( A MEGA REPLAY pack of the 4 Dragons ^^).
Questions: 1.Can you compare and contrast your play-style to Idra. As you have told us many times that you guys discuss strategies together, does that mean you guys play the game in similar ways?
2. How do foreigner Zergs differ from Asian Zergs?
3. I believe you and Idra have experimented a lot vs mech, can you tell us what Is the best way to play vs Mech and Terran in general. what are the crucial timings/moments in the game.
haha, well, i guess they will probably release replays from time to time.
Answers: 1) Yeah, IdrA and I discuss strategy primarily with each other. We use a lot of the same builds/openings/strategies. We do not play exactly the same, though. I tend to prefer a bit more cleverness (ie, Roach burrow movement, and things like this), while he tends to prefer to just out-macro people and win straight up battles.
2) I actually don't watch too many Asian Zerg replays. Its hard to say exactly, but the Asian server, overall, seems to tend towards macro, and have better basics than the foriegners.
3) Vs a pure mech strategy, the best way is normally to defend with Roaches while trying to hit an air timing with mass Corrupters => Broodlord//Corrupter. There are a few other ways you can try to battle it, but nothing truly works vs a Terran who really knows how to do it. This way just seems to work best to IdrA and I.
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So who's on the MYM squad so far?
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On June 14 2010 18:34 InfiniteIce wrote:lol, are you guys seriously debating racism on replay packs? I'm 100% sure [G5] was making a joke. That being said, I am also quite interested in the responses to GunMan's questions posted above. I think they are very good...especially contrasting the Asian server Zerg playstyle to other servers. My guess is a lot of focus on queens and fast hatch, contrasting vs NA server "IdrA" style tech/macro builds...but having never been able to play on the Asia server I'd love to hear Artosis' response on that A few (simple) questions of my own... 1) Do you find a higher level of difficulty/competency of opponents on the Asia server? This is asked from the view of taking into account the variable playstyles between server "meshing" with your playstyle...so rather, as opposed to "is it harder for your build/playstyle on Asia", this question more or less refers to actually competency of opponents. Or do you see little difference? 1) b] Is there a bigger focus on either (or both, I suppose) macro/micro on Asia, compared to other servers? 2) Do you have a favorite matchup? In terms of fun, rather than "this is easy to win". 3) Do you have a favorite replay in the pack? ^^ aaaand finally... 4) Who has been your hardest opponent/series to date? Whether you won or lost.
1) Yes. The opponents on the Asian server, over all, are much more competent than elsewhere. Because of the amount of SC1 over here, everyone has a pretty good grasp of RTS basics, something that the foreigner scene has always struggled with.
1 b) I often times say that overall, the server macros better. Sure, thats pretty much true, but a lot of it comes from just knowing RTS basics pretty well. For instance, when to expand, when to add Gateways or Hatcheries or Barracks, that type of thing.
2) I LOVED ZvT before it became completely broken. The matchup was just so deep before mech got buffed to where it is now. I really hope we can get it back to how it was. ZvZ is complete garbage after the Roach nerf, so I hate that matchup now, so I guess that leaves me with ZvP. Can be pretty fun to be honest. Especially since I'm experimenting with Ultralisks so much.
3) Hm, not sure about a favorite, I guess I really liked some of my ZvPs in there. Especially the one on Blistering Sands, where I get 3 bases, macro hard while teching to Ultralisks, and barely hold off Colossus all-ins. Also, there's a ZvT in there on Steppes of War that I really enjoyed playing. He went Bio-Tank, and I went Roach/Baneling drops into Broodlords iirc. Really fun and invigorating game.
4) I think I've lost every single Asian tourny in the past 2 months to Banelings, so nothing is really sticking out. I think playing vs Maka is really hard and so fun, I think we are right about even right now (maybe 8-8 or so..). He doesn't go full-on mech, so is thus beatable and fun to play against (even tho Tanks still make his play imba lolz.)
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On June 14 2010 19:09 Gunman_csz wrote: I have one more question. After watching Desert Oasis (4) replay, where the Terran opens with dual proxy barracks. It reminded me of one of the videos on scforall (you, idra, forzenarbiter) where talking about why pvt in BW was imbalance. One of the things frozenarbiter said was that because Protoss can proxy/cheeses and even if the cheese fails they can transition smoothly and without any consequence to mid/late game. So don't you think the same dynamic applies to TvZ?
I don't think it was FrozenArbiter, but...
TvZ is just too broken right now to comment on that, really. When a race has units that counter your tech paths so hard, of course they are going to be able to transition smoothly. Ask me this question again a couple of weeks after mech is nerfed again.
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