The two three-time champions of the GSL will be heading to Providence to battle it out for the $50,000 prize out of the Open Bracket in November. This announcement comes off the heels of the Quantic and Incredible Miracle partnership.
wait, are they going to be in the open bracket? if so, the open bracket players quality will be 10x higher than the stupid pool players considering other Koreans like MKP etc is coming too.
Might be the first foreign tournament to be tougher than winning code S (assuming the rest of South Korea is flying over for Nationals as well...doesn't seem implausible at this point, though).
On October 22 2011 05:03 Yamulo wrote: isn't mvp in the champ bracket already though? Cool to see nestea going O_O. Really going to be a badass tourney.
On October 22 2011 04:58 darlhet wrote: god exists
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Man that really really sucks for Idra. the #1 player from pool gets placed at the very beginning of his group. So he could end up facing MVP or Nestea as his very first match =x
On October 22 2011 05:06 Canucklehead wrote: Hell yeah, but it's an absolute travesty that a former mlg champ like MVP has to play in the open bracket! That's a seriously broken system.
Why is it a travesty? He didn't come to any other MLG's. other players did and they were rewarded for it. That's how the MLG system works. If he wanted a seed for providence he just had to come for ONE more MLG and he would have it easy.
Foreigners start having some success defeating the Koreans, once thought impervious, and little did anyone realise: that was only the beginning! The final bosses are coming!!!!!
Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
On October 22 2011 05:06 Canucklehead wrote: Hell yeah, but it's an absolute travesty that a former mlg champ like MVP has to play in the open bracket! That's a seriously broken system.
Why is it a travesty? He didn't come to any other MLG's. other players did and they were rewarded for it. That's how the MLG system works. If he wanted a seed for providence he just had to come for ONE more MLG and he would have it easy.
Irrelevant because he freaking won an MLG. Winner's should get 10,000 points so they're assured of high seeds for future events. Getting like 16th in all MLG shouldn't equate to 1 championship. There's a reason MLG is changing the system next year and it's because it's broken as hell.
Well, if things go as they should, Team IM will be super happy by the end of November. I can just imagine it now, Nestea and MVP rolling in piles of money
umm, remember, providence does NOT have a group stage. Open bracket > championship bracket/loser bracket. Now lets just see how the draw will be made now.
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
How so? Its not like he is getting a spot afaik. He has to work through the open brackets like the rest of ppl.
Oh my godness. I will so not go to school at the monday after providence, I'll stay up as long as it takes to watch all of fucking providence, this shit is gonna get epic. Now the winner of providence can really call himself best player in the world, given that everyone who is good goes there.
I guess the koreans had a meeting, mafia style, and went like "Ok these foreigners have won enough, time to stop playing and go full force" Then MVP and Nestea pop out of a smoke curtain in the back of the room like huge bawses.. "We're ready"
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
Thats why most of them got placed in the bracket already idiiott...
On October 22 2011 05:00 Heathen wrote: NOOOOO How about the non-koreans. They are going to have a hard time now.
Well, if they don't want to practice nonstop everyday so they can eventually show BW level games, why bother? I'll take more Koreans in SC2 if they are the most entertaining.
On October 22 2011 05:15 AceOfSpaces wrote: I guess the koreans had a meeting, mafia style, and went like "Ok these foreigners have won enough, time to stop playing and go full force" Then MVP and Nestea pop out of a smoke curtain in the back of the room like huge bawses.. "We're ready"
"they took our earnings, that they don't deserve. time to get some back."
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
How so? Its not like he is getting a spot afaik. He has to work through the open brackets like the rest of ppl.
Look, I'm not saying it isn't going to be awesome to see him play. Providence is shaping up to be the most stacked tournament in SC2 history the way I look at it. But for a grand prize that serves as the climax point to a season of tournaments, a team shouldn't be able to just send an ace to that one tournament when they haven't shown the same level of commitment to the MLG circuit as others. You should have to at least attend one of the smaller MLG events in order to be able to play in the season finale, especially for that type of prize.
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
How so? Its not like he is getting a spot afaik. He has to work through the open brackets like the rest of ppl.
Look, I'm not saying it isn't going to be awesome to see him play. Providence is shaping up to be the most stacked tournament in SC2 history the way I look at it. But for a grand prize that serves as the climax point to a season of tournaments, a team shouldn't be able to just send an ace to that one tournament when they haven't shown the same level of commitment to the MLG circuit as others. You should have to at least attend one of the smaller MLG events in order to be able to play in the season finale, especially for that type of prize.
"OH MY GOD __ I HAVE NERD CHILLS !!!!!" Exactly, what i see on this day. GG , Providence will be <-- The greatest tournament of any imo(even better then gsl, due to the foreigners)
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
How so? Its not like he is getting a spot afaik. He has to work through the open brackets like the rest of ppl.
Look, I'm not saying it isn't going to be awesome to see him play. Providence is shaping up to be the most stacked tournament in SC2 history the way I look at it. But for a grand prize that serves as the climax point to a season of tournaments, a team shouldn't be able to just send an ace to that one tournament when they haven't shown the same level of commitment to the MLG circuit as others. You should have to at least attend one of the smaller MLG events in order to be able to play in the season finale, especially for that type of prize.
Then what's the point of the open bracket...?
How about for people who didn't place in the championship bracket, but who have shown up to other MLGs and have shown that they take the circuit seriously, other than just when there's a big prize?
MLG Orlando managed to get White-ra vs Stephano on a simple round 3, I wouldn't mind some smugling to ensure that MVP and Nestea don't meet too early, this would just be a waste.
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
Thats why most of them got placed in the bracket already idiiott...
Leyhgo343
You like calling people idiots and signing your post with Leyhgo343, ha?
oh noes, I feel terrible for everyone whos worked all year to build up MLG points. I assume they will start off real low in the bracket so we will get to see tons of their games.
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
Thats why most of them got placed in the bracket already idiiott...
Leyhgo343
You like calling people idiots and signing your post with Leyhgo343, ha?
On October 22 2011 05:28 nooboon wrote: I just love how MLG listens to the fans tries their best to please them Just straight up invites them into the last tournament.
MLG didn't invite them at all. They're in the Open Bracket. MLG had nothing to do with this, just like how MLG had nothing to do with MKP in Orlando.
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
Thats why most of them got placed in the bracket already idiiott...
Leyhgo343
You like calling people idiots and signing your post with Leyhgo343, ha?
On October 22 2011 05:23 MLG_Adam wrote: This event will be madness. The very best players in the world will be in attendance, and we have off the charts movement on passes...
Go Providence
Are you guys still looking into releasing more player passes??? Also this tournament needs to have the biggest live crowd in MLG history because the lineup is absolutely insane
seems like the korean military department recognized the threat of the foreigners rebellion and sends a squad of elite soldiers to dispatch of them and restore their ultimate dominion over the world :/
On October 22 2011 05:54 XiGua wrote: Since we have double elimination there is not a single chance that Nestea and MVP WON'T meet in the finals.
IMMLGConquerers.
We haven't seen how Nestea does without preparation, and also players like TOP have taken him down not too long ago, so he isn't unbeatable. They will both have to go through a marathon of good players before they can make it to the finals. I'd honestly be surprised if they both made it through, despite the fact that they are the 2 best players in the world.
This is awesome. I've wanted to see MVP back at an MLG ever since his performance at Anaheim. Only concern is whether or not he'll be able to manage his CTS over the course of a much more intense tournament than the once a week GSL matches he's used to playing.
Also good to see Nestea going. He's one of the few Zergs I enjoy watching.
Korea: Let's send some of our a-class to MLG (Korea dominates Foreigners: Let's take it to the Koreans! This is our turf! (Foreigners slowly do better :D + Show Spoiler +
Huk wins XD
Korea: Wth is this?! Mvp, Nestea, you're going to the US Foreigners: o.0
Been waiting for this for awhile now, glad to see some real code-s asskickers coming. If Nestea for some weird reason doesnt get through the open bracket however I will cry so many bane...err tears.
Looks like all my foreign hope have been demolished... Oh well. This should be awesome! Hopefully Tasteosis is casting. I want to hear "Nesssssteaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!"
On October 22 2011 07:59 GMonster wrote: 10 foreigners better get Code S spots. Completely unfair to get seated into something that a lot of foreigners had to go to just to get a spot and they get handed the invite.
They are in the open bracket man. Anyone can play in it.
On October 22 2011 07:59 GMonster wrote: 10 foreigners better get Code S spots. Completely unfair to get seated into something that a lot of foreigners had to go to just to get a spot and they get handed the invite.
LOL your an idiot... They are just flying over there. They didn't get invited....
On October 22 2011 07:59 GMonster wrote: 10 foreigners better get Code S spots. Completely unfair to get seated into something that a lot of foreigners had to go to just to get a spot and they get handed the invite.
They are in the open bracket man. Anyone can play in it.
On October 22 2011 05:01 leungwk01 wrote: Booom. No foreigners top 2.
meh ... both beatable
dimaga runs on nestea = nestea out mvp runs on july get baneling busted = mvp out xD
ps: open bracket only for nestea if he isnt INVITED from the gsl exchange, but with such a good player if he have time i think he will go so he should be in the pool and MVP is already high enough in points he no need open bracket he is seeded in top10 i think
also for all "unfair" cryer ... no he is NOT in open bracket he is pool cause of his former performence in the mlg ! also 4-5 foreign gets code A every mlg so ... whats the problem here
On October 22 2011 08:03 Torqq wrote: Sure they are godly, but still a long road ahead for them in open bracket.
Idk about how their stamina is, might easily drop 2 games in row against cheese.
you seriously questioning stamina of the korean?
While im sure they have top class stamina, but its hell of a lot games and i doubt even these "gods" will get somewhat tired and start playing worse than what they can.
Fingers crossed they somehow lose before like semifinals... Why? I'm hoping to see many games of them, but still ensuring some foreigners beat them so the epic story completes.
This is more than likely just the begginning of Koreans coming to Providence.
TSL will probably send Polt, Alive, and Killer/Clide.
Slayers will probably send Ganzi and maybe Ryung.
Startale will probably send July and maybe Curious due to his recent domination.
MVP will probably send DRG, sC and a few other of their stars.
Providence is going to be, more than likely, the most watched tournament of the year. Teams are going to want to get that $50,000 and the massive exposure that comes with getting deep.
On October 22 2011 08:04 Thebbeuttiffulland wrote:
On October 22 2011 08:03 Torqq wrote: Sure they are godly, but still a long road ahead for them in open bracket.
Idk about how their stamina is, might easily drop 2 games in row against cheese.
you seriously questioning stamina of the korean?
While im sure they have top class stamina, but its hell of a lot games and i doubt even these "gods" will get somewhat tired and start playing worse than what they can.
IdrA (who doesnt speak for everyone but is an opinion worth noting) said once that people overplay t he stamina issue. Paraphrasing here, but he said that playing lots of tournament games over a few days is about as draining as the 40 practice games they play each and every day.
the more games you play, the more weary you will be, yes. But, pro players condition themselves to be able to play many games a day and are very used to it. I have a friend who works two 8-hour shifts (2 separate jobs) 6 days a week, and these are more physically taxing than playing games. She survives, without slacking off, because years and years have conditioned her to be able to do so.
Oh please let me play against one of them :D! I would love to get destroyed by MVP, Woongjin's like my favorite team of all time; I would love to have the honor of getting completely stomped!
You guys have it all wrong. Everyone here automatically assumes that the Korean bosses are coming over to stomp all of the foreigner players. But you are wrong......
Clearly the writing is in the stars for this. Fate is upon us. A Korean will not be winning the tournament..
Who will win then you ask? I don't know.
But the stars are starting to align and I assure you it will be a North American player winning. His name will not be Idra, or HuK or Stephano or any of the other big names we have all known to come. Our champion will be a unknown player. He will rise from the open bracket playing his heart out every match. Competitor after competitor will fall to our new champion.
I can see it now.... Our champion has just finished slaying Idra to move on to face MVP in the grand finals. The crowd is jarring with mixed emotions, some are sad to see that Idra has been eliminated and have lost hope for a foreigner victory, but most are eagerly awaiting for the final match.
The first game begins, the crowd is nervous..MVP is playing well, but our new champion is going toe to toe with the final boss of Korea. After a close back and forth game our new champion comes out victorious, and makes MVP GG out of the game. The crowd goes wild.
After winning the 2nd game in a godly fashion MVP has been able to come back to tie the series 2-2. Things are looking grim. But in game 5 our new champion shows a strategy that has never been seen before and takes the game, taking a 3-2 lead in the series. MVP is frustrated, he looks over at the other booth in amazement. He came into this finals thinking this would be a cake walk but suddenly realizes our new champion is no joke.
Game 6 is upon us. The crowd is still buzzing after the magnificant game play showed to us by our new champion. MVP is playing great in the sixth game with drops and harassment every where. Our new champion is barely holding on. The late game is upon us and MVP has a slight lead, our new champion has just lost his expo and is preparing for his last and final push. Both players are maxed out and most will come to say that MVP had the better army composition. But with resilient play and never before seen micro our new champion arises to crush MVP's army forcing the GG WP out of MVP.
The crowd bursts into cheers of joy, some tearing up knowing that they have just witnessed something truly epic. Our new champion comes running out of the booth to meet his family who has rushed the stage with tears of joy streaming down their face they meet in the middle of the stage and embrace each other, smiling, laughing, crying.
This will begin the end of foreigners be foreign. And SC2 will become main stream in NA/EU it is fate.
On October 22 2011 08:46 magnaflow wrote: You guys have it all wrong. Everyone here automatically assumes that the Korean bosses are coming over to stomp all of the foreigner players. But you are wrong......
Clearly the writing is in the stars for this. Fate is upon us. A Korean will not be winning the tournament..
Who will win then you ask? I don't know.
But the stars are starting to align and I assure you it will be a North American player winning. His name will not be Idra, or HuK or Stephano or any of the other big names we have all known to come. Our champion will be a unknown player. He will rise from the open bracket playing his heart out every match. Competitor after competitor will fall to our new champion.
I can see it now.... Our champion has just finished slaying Idra to move on to face MVP in the grand finals. The crowd is jarring with mixed emotions, some are sad to see that Idra has been eliminated and have lost hope for a foreigner victory, but most are eagerly awaiting for the final match.
The first game begins, the crowd is nervous..MVP is playing well, but our new champion is going toe to toe with the final boss of Korea. After a close back and forth game our new champion comes out victorious, and makes MVP GG out of the game. The crowd goes wild.
After winning the 2nd game in a godly fashion MVP has been able to come back to tie the series 2-2. Things are looking grim. But in game 5 our new champion shows a strategy that has never been seen before and takes the game, taking a 3-2 lead in the series. MVP is frustrated, he looks over at the other booth in amazement. He came into this finals thinking this would be a cake walk but suddenly realizes our new champion is no joke.
Game 6 is upon us. The crowd is still buzzing after the magnificant game play showed to us by our new champion. MVP is playing great in the sixth game with drops and harassment every where. Our new champion is barely holding on. The late game is upon us and MVP has a slight lead, our new champion has just lost his expo and is preparing for his last and final push. Both players are maxed out and most will come to say that MVP had the better army composition. But with resilient play and never before seen micro our new champion arises to crush MVP's army forcing the GG WP out of MVP.
The crowd bursts into cheers of joy, some tearing up knowing that they have just witnessed something truly epic. Our new champion comes running out of the booth to meet his family who has rushed the stage with tears of joy streaming down their face they meet in the middle of the stage and embrace each other, smiling, laughing, crying.
This will begin the end of foreigners be foreign. And SC2 will become main stream in NA/EU it is fate.
So, I can see the entire top 16 full of Koreans. Top 16 at the very least. Could be the top 20 for all we know. Only Idra and Huk would be the exceptions.
From what I saw out of Idra last event, it seems he's turned a corner. Maybe not that huge corner to beat players like Nestea and MVP, but we've seen him beat some very good players. I can see him in the top 8 again if he keeps focused. It helps that he has an extreme advantage because he's the number one seed. He's also at a disadvantage of course so it works like a double edged sword. Still though, he's gotta be happy with how many byes he's got.
HuK beat MC twice, MarineKing, TheStC, and July. That's a pretty tough lineup to beat in order to get first. Now with even more great players, players that are even better than the ones mentioned above, it'll be much harder. HuK is the only foreigner I can see winning this event. Unless Idra somehow becomes Super Gracken, HuK has the best chance out of any foreigner. Even then, it's a bit of a long shot. Gonna be crazy.
this makes a lot of sense, I don't think it would have been worthwhile for Nestea or MVP to come to other MLG's with such a small prize pool. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it won't be a Nestea MVP finals though. MLG format has so many best of 3's that I think one of them gets tripped up by either a korean or a top foreigner. I think only one of them will be in the finals.
NesTea and MVP are both going to have to go through the open bracket while IdrA, HuK, NaNiwa and MMA can set pretty at the end of the championship bracket and wait for their worn-out prey to finally arrive.
lol with this news....slasher should rekindle his "no foreigner will win tourney" mantra......Definitely one of these two, if not another Korean, will win.
The open bracket seems like a fucking hell hole though. It's what scared Thorzain away from future MLGs if I recall correctly as he couldn't eat for the entire event as he never knew when he was supposed to play and couldn't leave the place. He eventually got thrown a burger or something by some fan. All of this is from my memory so I'm not too sure about the fine details, but it was something along those lines. I read it in his fanclub a while back.
I wonder if Nestea and MVP can take the pain and still play their best? Perhaps the open bracket is more under control nowadays, but you never know.
Well, if a foreigner can take it we'll know that the gap has truly been closed by the foreigners! Whoever wins though this is great news for the growth of worldwide SC2 and whoever wins it will be an epic event!
Well I guess we know who is going to win MLG Providence. One of them LOL. GL though will still be awesome, and even better if a foreigner pulls through a historical win!
NaNiwa's going to Providence as well right? He's also a dark horse in the top of the champion's bracket who could possibly take out a tired Nestea who's gone through hell in the open bracket, considering NaNiwa's always been beastly PvZ. I mean none really knows how good he is at the moment. Also all players are atleast somewhat inconsistant and can have a bad day (as you might've noticed laddering ), and MLG is a completely new experience for atleast Nestea.
I think we could potentially have a foreigneir top spot if they have some luck in the bracket with top Koreans eliminating eachother, and a very tired one goes up to the final. Is the bracket official yet?
Hope they don't get tired by playing in the open bracket. They should seed Nestea and MVP because everyone knows they're good enough to be in the championship bracket, hell even good enough to be the finals itself xd
Is IM going to have its players in luxury suites in the teamhouse? With all the money they've made and are going to make I wouldn't put it out of its grasp.
I'm getting the feeling that MLG is going to see Blizzcon, realize exactly what they need to do, and show every damn Nestea / MVP game they can. The light in the darkness...
AHHHHHHH! This is going to be the best mlg ever! I hope we finally get an answer as to whether the foreigners have even come close to closing the skill gap with the top Koreans. Stephano, IdrA, ThorZaiN. Your destiny awaits!
scary scary. even though they'll be playing from the open bracket, it would be smart to assume they'll reach top 8... or even one of them winning the whole thing.
soooo sick!!! Gonna be my first MLG and I guess I'll be spoiled. I don't care if they have to play 1000 games with their toes one of those two is winning. It's so fun to watch them, they are so far above the level of everyone else. I enjoy watching starcraft from all over the globe, but the best are the best, and the most exciting to watch.
Strange how, by taking all the drama out of who will be winning Providence, this tournament is now even more of must watch for me than it already was. The only possibility for it not to be a Nestea vs MVP finals is if MLG rigs the brackets so that they face each other in the open bracket.
On October 22 2011 05:52 Corrik wrote: I hope their visas are all sorted out... it would be devastating to hear this and them not be able to come.
If they had visa troubles, they wouldn't be at blizzcon right now.
That's what we all thought with Demuslim at MLG Orlando. However, somehow from IPL3 to MLG Orlando (a period of 7 days), he was forced to leave I guess.
On October 22 2011 05:52 Corrik wrote: I hope their visas are all sorted out... it would be devastating to hear this and them not be able to come.
If they had visa troubles, they wouldn't be at blizzcon right now.
That's what we all thought with Demuslim at MLG Orlando. However, somehow from IPL3 to MLG Orlando (a period of 7 days), he was forced to leave I guess.
They never said what was the visa issue for Demuslim, it could be that he had to be in UK to apply for a korean visa.
No excuses. The absolute best will be attending. Perhaps finally we will have a decently accurate way to gauge how the foreigners actually fare against Korea. This will be a joy to watch!
On October 22 2011 11:28 LXR wrote: BAHAHAH now let's hear people talk about how foreigners can "stand toe-to-toe" with top koreans.... ROFL
I do believe that top foreigners do stand "toe to toe" with top koreans and I think most people should believe that after the recent results. MVP and Nestea are currently the best players in the world and even the top koreans have troubles playing them. I think it's unfair to call them the only "top" koreans and to say since foreigners will have troubles beating them(or can't beat them) that foreigners suck compared to koreans. I could also bet anything that if a foreigners does beat either one of them then most people who think foreigners still have no chance vs top koreans will just say "oh it was just 1 best of 3 and they got luck" -_-
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
How so? Its not like he is getting a spot afaik. He has to work through the open brackets like the rest of ppl.
Which should be a light warm-up for him, before he has to use 40% of his power to smash any foreigner.
Just watched an MLGLee interview from wellplayed and they said that MLG Providence was the fastest spectator pass selling event at this point. Can't imagine this news will hurt sales
am i the only one that thinks its bs to have people that didn't compete in the MLG events coming for the championship event? If you weren't in the top 16 of points how are you allowed into the championship tournament?
On October 22 2011 13:29 IndridCold wrote: am i the only one that thinks its bs to have people that didn't compete in the MLG events coming for the championship event? If you weren't in the top 16 of points how are you allowed into the championship tournament?
On October 22 2011 13:29 IndridCold wrote: am i the only one that thinks its bs to have people that didn't compete in the MLG events coming for the championship event? If you weren't in the top 16 of points how are you allowed into the championship tournament?
Yes you're the only one. I want to see the best not noobs that just gathered points from showing up to them all.
Ha, people have been struggling over scraps throughout the year hoping to be well placed for the big money and then the top Code S players come swooping in to run off with the big money.
On October 22 2011 14:11 Falling wrote: Ha, people have been struggling over scraps throughout the year hoping to be well placed for the big money and then the top Code S players come swooping in to run off with the big money.
You say that like its a problem.
If you can't beat every single person who competes in the tournament, then you probably don't deserve the "big money"
To be totally honest I have a feeling we might see a slight upset. I'm not saying something like, "oh Nestea won't make it out of the open bracket" but I feel like MVP and Nestea may not finish 1/2 like everyone expects. At least I hope there is some form of competition for those two.
Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
Nice. It's great to see them bother with open, I assume they could've asked to be invited by mlg system for pools. Feels like it means more too if they make it from open. Afaik nobody has won, or even made it to finals, from opens on the Korean era, despite lots of koreans trying.
Eventhough I prefer underdogs to win, IM guys are quite ballers to do this from open, so I almost hope them to win. Gogo!
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
I feel bad for Nestea and MVP because everyone that plays them will have the entire crowd cheering for them. As everyone else said, they are indeed the current gods of SC2. Every single opponent will be the underdog in every single game, so every win will be a huge deal. One defeat for Nestea or MVP will possibly make the crowd explode into excitement.
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
One of these is not like the others...
Bomber? :D
I know you were joking with the bomber one but ill say Rain :D
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
LOL u ignorant piece of ***
I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA, and 5 better than HuK
they just won 5k $ (idra 6.5k $) and they r the best? What about Stephano who just won 30k $ and demolished HuK without any problems?
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
LOL u ignorant piece of ***
I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA, and 5 better than HuK
they just won 5k $ (idra 6.5k $) and they r the best? What about Stephano who just won 30k $ and demolished HuK without any problems?
Ok, give me 20 names better than IdrA and 5 better than huk.
On October 22 2011 17:14 Larryx wrote:I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA
I'd actually be interested in who is on that list for you. I couldn't name 20 foreigners that are even considered close to equal to Idra, at least in my opinion.
Dimaga Sen HuK SeleCT Sase Mana Stephano ThorZain Major? Naniwa? Kiwikaki? Morrow?
On October 22 2011 17:14 Larryx wrote:I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA
I'd actually be interested in who is on that list for you. I couldn't name 20 foreigners that are even considered close to equal to Idra, at least in my opinion.
Dimaga Sen HuK SeleCT Sase Mana Stephano ThorZain Major? Naniwa? Kiwikaki? Morrow?
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
LOL u ignorant piece of ***
I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA, and 5 better than HuK
they just won 5k $ (idra 6.5k $) and they r the best? What about Stephano who just won 30k $ and demolished HuK without any problems?
Yeah how was stephano at MLG? Oh wait knocked out by a code B player but hey I'm sure he faced some top tier talent at IPL, you know ryung, ret, MMA wait I'm thinking of FXO lucky but hey he beat STC ,violet a pair of code B players and inori you know the guy who reached RO8 via PvP? I like stephano he's a great player with a great style but wow his fanboys overhype him his IPL 3 was just as much lucky killing all the absolute best of the best than him beating them
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
LOL u ignorant piece of ***
I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA, and 5 better than HuK
they just won 5k $ (idra 6.5k $) and they r the best? What about Stephano who just won 30k $ and demolished HuK without any problems?
well I personally don't think Stephano > Huk, Idra :/ I think they are on the even level or Huk and Idra are slightly better cuz they've been displaying good games much longer than Stephano.
AND
is Stephano even coming to MLG Providence? He sure doesn't get a seed.
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
LOL u ignorant piece of ***
I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA, and 5 better than HuK
they just won 5k $ (idra 6.5k $) and they r the best? What about Stephano who just won 30k $ and demolished HuK without any problems?
Yeah how was stephano at MLG? Oh wait knocked out by a code B player but hey I'm sure he faced some top tier talent at IPL, you know ryung, ret, MMA wait I'm thinking of FXO lucky but hey he beat STC ,violet a pair of code B players and inori you know the guy who reached RO8 via PvP? I like stephano he's a great player with a great style but wow his fanboys overhype him his IPL 3 was just as much lucky killing all the absolute best of the best than him beating them
I know you are trying to prove a point... but why are you undermining Stephano's feat? It was nothing shy of amazing. He even had to scrap his way through the qualifiers. I don't know why you are hating on people just because they are "code B". By those standards IdrA is code B as well...
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
LOL u ignorant piece of ***
I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA, and 5 better than HuK
they just won 5k $ (idra 6.5k $) and they r the best? What about Stephano who just won 30k $ and demolished HuK without any problems?
Ok, give me 20 names better than IdrA and 5 better than huk.
Go.
What he said. Don't spew random bullshit here. Put up or shut up.
On October 22 2011 15:36 Sherlocks Mind wrote: Top Koreans consist of Bomber, July, MC, MMA, Rain, MarineKing, and a few others. Top Foreigners consist of Idra, Huk............ that's it. Then you have simply the top players period in MVP and Nestea. Koreans are going to dominate. However, the top foreigners can in fact compete with the top koreans. There's only 2 of them though. Everyone else either hasn't proven themselves or hasn't been consistent enough to be considered a top foreigner. At least, that's how I look at it.
LOL u ignorant piece of ***
I can name you 20 foreigners better than IdrA, and 5 better than HuK
they just won 5k $ (idra 6.5k $) and they r the best? What about Stephano who just won 30k $ and demolished HuK without any problems?
Yeah how was stephano at MLG? Oh wait knocked out by a code B player but hey I'm sure he faced some top tier talent at IPL, you know ryung, ret, MMA wait I'm thinking of FXO lucky but hey he beat STC ,violet a pair of code B players and inori you know the guy who reached RO8 via PvP? I like stephano he's a great player with a great style but wow his fanboys overhype him his IPL 3 was just as much lucky killing all the absolute best of the best than him beating them
I know you are trying to prove a point... but why are you undermining Stephano's feat? It was nothing shy of amazing. He even had to scrap his way through the qualifiers. I don't know why you are hating on people just because they are "code B". By those standards IdrA is code B as well...
imo stephano>huk, idra needs to play more to prove himself.
The best players deserve to play in the best tournaments. Great news they are being sent around the world, the amount of work they put into the game - they goddamn deserve it.
Its these kinds of things that will tempt the top BW players, seeing other koreans travel around the world, seeing Spain, France, US, Germany etc and making money and enjoying your fame is pretty damn awesome for a bunch of people playing "teh vidyagaemz".
I find it funny that you guys mention MVP being most prone to fatigue when, at Anaheim he came trough the open bracket remaining undefeated in any match then crushed trough MMA in the final.
NesTea being old doesn't affect his play, age isn't such a big factor in video games as it is in physical sports, and are you seriously calling him old at only 29 years of age?
Another fun fact NesTea and MVP where both A team players, they where trained to go for hours and hours of games without breaking a sweat, MVP already demonstrated MLG open bracket was nothing for him. I wouldn't expect the open bracket to claim MVP and NesTea as victims.
As for Stephano being better then HuK. I'd say Stephano is better since the defeated HuK in straight up play at IPL 3 and he did it in very convincing fashion 2-0 after he even let HuK get Colossus, Carrier and Void Ray. I'll not comment on IdrA vs Stephano since they haven't played directly as of yet, at least not recently.
On October 22 2011 19:07 Destructicon wrote: I find it funny that you guys mention MVP being most prone to fatigue when, at Anaheim he came trough the open bracket remaining undefeated in any match then crushed trough MMA in the final.
NesTea being old doesn't affect his play, age isn't such a big factor in video games as it is in physical sports, and are you seriously calling him old at only 29 years of age?
Another fun fact NesTea and MVP where both A team players, they where trained to go for hours and hours of games without breaking a sweat, MVP already demonstrated MLG open bracket was nothing for him. I wouldn't expect the open bracket to claim MVP and NesTea as victims.
As for Stephano being better then HuK. I'd say Stephano is better since the defeated HuK in straight up play at IPL 3 and he did it in very convincing fashion 2-0 after he even let HuK get Colossus, Carrier and Void Ray. I'll not comment on IdrA vs Stephano since they haven't played directly as of yet, at least not recently.
MVP didn't go thru the open bracket get your facts straight son
That's cool. I hope we see great games and I hope they don't get knocked out early due to some coinflip bullshit or foolish play due to fatigue. People seem to consider these players immortal gods who can never lose except to each other, but that's hardly true. They CAN lose, and sometimes it's to something silly, like in the latest GSL on Metalopolis with Nestea not scouting MvP's early expo which went down on his third instead of his natural. Derp.
Also, that's the problem with MLG's format of bread crumbs as prize pool for the whole year and a massive final event prize, that people like Nestea can crawl out of their caves once a year, take the money and run.
Not sure if mentioned already, too many pages to read all. =P But @ LO3 they dropped that Happy & Losira might come over for Providence aswell, no idea if truth but would be sweet for sure. More the merrier! \o/
On October 22 2011 22:42 Urbz wrote: Very interest!
Not sure if mentioned already, too many pages to read all. =P But @ LO3 they dropped that Happy & Losira might come over for Providence aswell, no idea if truth but would be sweet for sure. More the merrier! \o/
On October 22 2011 05:06 Canucklehead wrote: Hell yeah, but it's an absolute travesty that a former mlg champ like MVP has to play in the open bracket! That's a seriously broken system.
What? Win once, get a free pass to every other MLG until the end of time?
On October 22 2011 05:06 Canucklehead wrote: Hell yeah, but it's an absolute travesty that a former mlg champ like MVP has to play in the open bracket! That's a seriously broken system.
What? Win once, get a free pass to every other MLG until the end of time?
...
Being a champion of one of the 5 preliminary MLG tournaments of the 2011 season should be enough to get you seeded over simply showing up repeatedly, especially if your results suck.
Do you realize that haypro is seeded over MVP...? Let's just throw the obvious skill gap out the window and just look at the results. MVP at least went all the way and won one of these for THIS season, Haypro typically does bad-mediocre.
Good to see such a HUGE and really bonding partnership, its HUGE, really.
So great.
Together.
friendship
very good.
man
Cant wait for providence, can see mvp having a hard time though if he runs into alot of koreans in the open, will see how many goes to providence though, same goes for nestea I guess.
Finally! Can not wait to see Nestea take down MLG Providence. This makes me want to fly out and play open bracket hoping to get paired up with one of those monsters! GLHF to everyone attending the National Championship. Your road to the top just got a lot more challenging.
I love how most comments after the 5-10 page mark become lame word-plays on already-stated lame jokes :D Too baked too document, this MLG is gonn abe mental :D Bibi
On October 22 2011 23:26 eoLithic wrote: the translator is killing me!
ahaha
Good to see such a HUGE and really bonding partnership, its HUGE, really.
So great.
Together.
friendship
very good.
man
Cant wait for providence, can see mvp having a hard time though if he runs into alot of koreans in the open, will see how many goes to providence though, same goes for nestea I guess.
you will see more nestea, you will see more mvp
man
all these great players.
hold on, you got happy, you got losira, yonghwa, seed, I can't even name em all
man
all these great players
lol, the guy sounds way more excited than we are xD. Almost makes it sound too good to be true. Hope it all lives up to his hype, I really do.
On October 23 2011 00:07 toorak wrote: i bet they will face off in the quater finals or something and those games will be fucking awesome and the finals will be just boring )=
It's possible, but the double-elimination bracket means that each of them would have to lose a game to someone-who-isn't-mvp-or-nestea. That's why the double-elimination bracket is so awesome imo.
Also, the way the bracket looks now, the last few matches are guaranteed to be battles between the best players or players on an unbelievable tear. It couldn't be set-up much better in terms of getting good final matches.
And what's most awesome is that now that these two are going, the championship suddenly becomes much, much more prestigious. i.e. Providence will be featuring almost all of the very best players, and so whoever wins it will have achieved that much more, which is certainly an exciting way to end the MLG 2011 season.
On October 22 2011 23:26 eoLithic wrote: the translator is killing me!
ahaha
Good to see such a HUGE and really bonding partnership, its HUGE, really.
So great.
Together.
friendship
very good.
man
Cant wait for providence, can see mvp having a hard time though if he runs into alot of koreans in the open, will see how many goes to providence though, same goes for nestea I guess.
you will see more nestea, you will see more mvp
man
all these great players.
hold on, you got happy, you got losira, yonghwa, seed, I can't even name em all
man
all these great players
lol, the guy sounds way more excited than we are xD. Almost makes it sound too good to be true. Hope it all lives up to his hype, I really do.
On October 22 2011 22:42 Urbz wrote: Very interest!
Not sure if mentioned already, too many pages to read all. =P But @ LO3 they dropped that Happy & Losira might come over for Providence aswell, no idea if truth but would be sweet for sure. More the merrier! \o/
Anyone possible to link this LO3? cause i can't seem to find it
On October 22 2011 05:06 Canucklehead wrote: Hell yeah, but it's an absolute travesty that a former mlg champ like MVP has to play in the open bracket! That's a seriously broken system.
What? Win once, get a free pass to every other MLG until the end of time?
No but I was under the impression they took the top 20 from the points system, then went even lower to get replacements for people int he top 20 not attending, MVP is ranked 19 so he should be in pools.
On October 22 2011 05:06 Canucklehead wrote: Hell yeah, but it's an absolute travesty that a former mlg champ like MVP has to play in the open bracket! That's a seriously broken system.
What? Win once, get a free pass to every other MLG until the end of time?
No but I was under the impression they took the top 20 from the points system, then went even lower to get replacements for people int he top 20 not attending, MVP is ranked 19 so he should be in pools.
Top 16. Incontrol, then Sheth, then MVP are next in line in case people in top16 can't make it.
It's really sad to read this thread and see all the posts going "Well we know the top 2" "Looks like MVP/Nestea makes 50k more"
People seem to not realize that all the success NesTea has, and most of the success MVP has come from a tournament where you have almost a week to prepare for a specific opponent on specific maps. MLG is a whole new beast entirely, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit a tough opponent in the open bracket and stumble a little, and eventually fall.
I wonder though...is there an open tourney in this MLG as well?
Bc if there is...a lot of these korean players are gonna be pooped by the time they get to the top, not saying that they cant win lol, but I mean playing that many games in such a short time would tire anyone out.
On October 23 2011 05:18 VirgilSC2 wrote: It's really sad to read this thread and see all the posts going "Well we know the top 2" "Looks like MVP/Nestea makes 50k more"
People seem to not realize that all the success NesTea has, and most of the success MVP has come from a tournament where you have almost a week to prepare for a specific opponent on specific maps. MLG is a whole new beast entirely, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit a tough opponent in the open bracket and stumble a little, and eventually fall.
You bring up a good point in regards to Nestea. Since we never see him in team leagues, I wonder how much a grind-it-out format will affect his smart reactive play.
On October 23 2011 05:18 VirgilSC2 wrote: It's really sad to read this thread and see all the posts going "Well we know the top 2" "Looks like MVP/Nestea makes 50k more"
People seem to not realize that all the success NesTea has, and most of the success MVP has come from a tournament where you have almost a week to prepare for a specific opponent on specific maps. MLG is a whole new beast entirely, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit a tough opponent in the open bracket and stumble a little, and eventually fall.
You bring up a good point in regards to Nestea. Since we never see him in team leagues, I wonder how much a grind-it-out format will affect his smart reactive play.
On October 23 2011 05:18 VirgilSC2 wrote: It's really sad to read this thread and see all the posts going "Well we know the top 2" "Looks like MVP/Nestea makes 50k more"
People seem to not realize that all the success NesTea has, and most of the success MVP has come from a tournament where you have almost a week to prepare for a specific opponent on specific maps. MLG is a whole new beast entirely, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit a tough opponent in the open bracket and stumble a little, and eventually fall.
You bring up a good point in regards to Nestea. Since we never see him in team leagues, I wonder how much a grind-it-out format will affect his smart reactive play.
Watch blizzcon. Now we know. :D
You mean the Blizzcon where NesTea had a tough time against Brat_OK and NaNiWa?
On October 23 2011 05:18 VirgilSC2 wrote: It's really sad to read this thread and see all the posts going "Well we know the top 2" "Looks like MVP/Nestea makes 50k more"
People seem to not realize that all the success NesTea has, and most of the success MVP has come from a tournament where you have almost a week to prepare for a specific opponent on specific maps. MLG is a whole new beast entirely, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit a tough opponent in the open bracket and stumble a little, and eventually fall.
You bring up a good point in regards to Nestea. Since we never see him in team leagues, I wonder how much a grind-it-out format will affect his smart reactive play.
Nestea's greatest asset is that he had wonderful decision making and can think on his feet.
On October 23 2011 05:18 VirgilSC2 wrote: It's really sad to read this thread and see all the posts going "Well we know the top 2" "Looks like MVP/Nestea makes 50k more"
People seem to not realize that all the success NesTea has, and most of the success MVP has come from a tournament where you have almost a week to prepare for a specific opponent on specific maps. MLG is a whole new beast entirely, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit a tough opponent in the open bracket and stumble a little, and eventually fall.
You bring up a good point in regards to Nestea. Since we never see him in team leagues, I wonder how much a grind-it-out format will affect his smart reactive play.
Nestea's greatest asset is that he had wonderful decision making and can think on his feet.
That fantastic decision-making where you doom-drop next to blink stalkers and don't put spore crawlers in your main.
On October 23 2011 06:18 Dbars wrote: Meh, they shouldnt have a chance at the 50k if they don't have any points from earlier MLGs.
Why not? MLG has an open bracket format at their events, including Providence. If you want a shot at the 50k, you could get a competitor pass yourself and enter.
They're going to shred people all the way to the finals, until they have to play each other, and in that case they're both so good they'll probably both win.
I have to say, normally I root for nestea, but I don't think I will this tournament. I kind of want a player who competed in most, or at least some, mlg's this season to win it. I understand the purpose of the open bracket, but for providence it's too bad they didn't just have the top 32 or something. Oh well, guess I can't blame nestea and mvp for that.
Jesus.. as if the last MLG wasn't hard enough to win lol.. with Nestea and MVP there it's going to be impossible.
At least MLG is turning in to one of the best competitions in the world with players of this caliber competing in every single one. I remember just a year ago a couple of my friends registered for MLG Dallas and made it through a couple of rounds... the good ol' days when no names could actually win games at MLG are long gone
I have nothing against Koreans having the best chances of winning the next MLG but I still would want a foreigner to win. In fact, I want the best Korean pros in MLG so foreigners are forced to step up their game and prove that the skill gap isn't that huge.
MMA has good potential to take this tourney if he goes. He is the legend killer. He has consistently beaten MVP and Nestea in best-of-x series, to the point where I would call him even odds against Nesta/MVP, if not the favorite...
On October 23 2011 11:22 thepeonwhocould wrote: MMA has good potential to take this tourney if he goes. He is the legend killer. He has consistently beaten MVP and Nestea in best-of-x series, to the point where I would call him even odds against Nesta/MVP, if not the favorite...
On October 23 2011 11:22 thepeonwhocould wrote: MMA has good potential to take this tourney if he goes. He is the legend killer. He has consistently beaten MVP and Nestea in best-of-x series, to the point where I would call him even odds against Nesta/MVP, if not the favorite...
They will still have to come through the open bracket. And can potentially play each other can't they? You never know, there will be plenty of Koreans and great foreigners there, its not like these guys are invincible, they can drop sets (aka MVP and Nestea play eachother before the finals
I hope that the match-fixing suspicions [in the Blizzcon finals [because Nestea played uncharacteristiaclly horribly and passively in the last game and because MVP's confidence seemed shot and needed a boost] don't follow him here. I mean, I can imagine someone saying that Nestea gave MVP Blizzcon, now give papa Nestea MLG Providence.
On October 23 2011 11:22 thepeonwhocould wrote: MMA has good potential to take this tourney if he goes. He is the legend killer. He has consistently beaten MVP and Nestea in best-of-x series, to the point where I would call him even odds against Nesta/MVP, if not the favorite...
I'm not sure how he fares against Nestea but against MVP I agree. From the games i've seen there wasn't a single point where I though MVP would win against him
On October 23 2011 12:58 BarbieHsu wrote: I hope that the match-fixing suspicions [in the Blizzcon finals [because Nestea played uncharacteristiaclly horribly and passively in the last game and because MVP's confidence seemed shot and needed a boost] don't follow him here. I mean, I can imagine someone saying that Nestea gave MVP Blizzcon, now give papa Nestea MLG Providence.
only retarded zerg fanboys think nestea gave mvp the game
On October 23 2011 10:01 MythicRule wrote: Just watched the Quantic-Im video on MLG. Apparently Nestea, MVP, losira and others will start live streaming on justin tv on a regular basis.
Insane or what??
Artosis is gonna give up his day job just to watch Nestea's stream 24/7 lol
I will be glued to the screen anytime Losira streams, whether he wins or loses he's always so damn amusing to watch. I think it's a great move too because they never take ladder too seriously so it's not like players can plan against them by watching streams but it's informative for fans and lower level players to watch.
Nestea and MVP in the open bracket is interesting to be sure, their success however depends on who they run into. If a ton of other korean teams are sending players it becomes infinitely harder to assure they make it into the prize money.
On October 23 2011 10:01 MythicRule wrote: Just watched the Quantic-Im video on MLG. Apparently Nestea, MVP, losira and others will start live streaming on justin tv on a regular basis.
Insane or what??
Artosis is gonna give up his day job just to watch Nestea's stream 24/7 lol
really? Oh my god. I am going to watch so much of MVP's stream.
On October 23 2011 10:01 MythicRule wrote: Just watched the Quantic-Im video on MLG. Apparently Nestea, MVP, losira and others will start live streaming on justin tv on a regular basis.
Insane or what??
Artosis is gonna give up his day job just to watch Nestea's stream 24/7 lol
really? Oh my god. I am going to watch so much of MVP's stream.
On October 23 2011 11:22 thepeonwhocould wrote: MMA has good potential to take this tourney if he goes. He is the legend killer. He has consistently beaten MVP and Nestea in best-of-x series, to the point where I would call him even odds against Nesta/MVP, if not the favorite...
consistently? I don't think so...
Considering he has a winning record against both of them, yes, I believe so.
On October 23 2011 15:34 Vindicare605 wrote: The Imperial March theme seems very appropriate for this thread.
Hahahaha, yes it does.
It's pretty scary, foreigners have become much much better at beating Koreans recently, but I mean... Nestea...? AND MVP??! We might as well pack up now guys :'(
Somehow this feels wrong even though it's absolutely legitimate. I mean, people have been struggling with MLG events all season to gather points and these guys will probably just breeze through open brackets and most likely through championship brackets aswell to grab the cash.
On October 23 2011 17:18 Mouzone wrote: Somehow this feels wrong even though it's absolutely legitimate. I mean, people have been struggling with MLG events all season to gather points and these guys will probably just breeze through open brackets and most likely through championship brackets aswell to grab the cash.
So how are these guys so good? Is it the genes? Or did they work just as hard if not harder than their Western counterparts? Your sense of justice is absurd at best and xenophobic at worst.
On October 23 2011 17:18 Mouzone wrote: Somehow this feels wrong even though it's absolutely legitimate. I mean, people have been struggling with MLG events all season to gather points and these guys will probably just breeze through open brackets and most likely through championship brackets aswell to grab the cash.
So how are these guys so good? Is it the genes? Or did they work just as hard if not harder than their Western counterparts? Your sense of justice is absurd at best and xenophobic at worst.
MVP and Nestea are just the epitomic scapegoats of my theory that open bracket for the end event is unfair to the guys in the championship brackets.
I think MLG is supposed to be for people that are not in Code S. Not for ppl that DOMINATE the SCII scene, have won 3 GSLs, and were just invited to Blizzcon.
Don't get me wrong, these two are GODS and I love watching them play.... But they're basically taking away the opportunity for others to join them in their world :/
On October 23 2011 17:34 Seeker wrote: Yeah..... I'm not really excited for this.....
I think MLG is supposed to be for people that are not in Code S. Not for ppl that DOMINATE the SCII scene, have won 3 GSLs, and were just invited to Blizzcon.
Don't get me wrong, these two are GODS and I love watching them play.... But they're basically taking away the opportunity for others to join them in their world :/
On October 23 2011 17:34 Seeker wrote: Yeah..... I'm not really excited for this.....
I think MLG is supposed to be for people that are not in Code S. Not for ppl that DOMINATE the SCII scene, have won 3 GSLs, and were just invited to Blizzcon.
Don't get me wrong, these two are GODS and I love watching them play.... But they're basically taking away the opportunity for others to join them in their world :/
On October 23 2011 17:34 Seeker wrote: Yeah..... I'm not really excited for this.....
I think MLG is supposed to be for people that are not in Code S. Not for ppl that DOMINATE the SCII scene, have won 3 GSLs, and were just invited to Blizzcon.
Don't get me wrong, these two are GODS and I love watching them play.... But they're basically taking away the opportunity for others to join them in their world :/
but the thing is that there are no korean seeds this time for the MLG-GSL exchange in the format for providence in that thread.
also, the code S spot goes to the highest placing person OUTSIDE of code S
and mvp, bomber, and huk, who won the last 3 are all code S. MMA, who won the won before that just won code S.
Ahh kay, mb. I didn't realize Providence was like the grand MLG. So, this is basically not the same as other MLGs, correcT?
This one has not Group stage I believe. One 32 man Championship bracket with 16 of the seeds going to players based on points earned over the previous events, and the other 16 seeds based on the top 16 players from the 256-man Open Bracket. I am not sure, but I think players with points get priority in bracket seeing in the Open Bracket too if they do not have enough to qualify for the Championship Bracket.
In this case, MVP gets seeded into the Championship Bracket, while NesTea has 0 points so he starts at the very bottom of the Open Bracket and must earn his Champion Bracket spot.
This move is good for the fans but not for the players.. seems quite unfair to bring in these players and pretty much hoard the prize money with all these big tournaments.
On October 23 2011 17:34 Seeker wrote: Yeah..... I'm not really excited for this.....
I think MLG is supposed to be for people that are not in Code S. Not for ppl that DOMINATE the SCII scene, have won 3 GSLs, and were just invited to Blizzcon.
Don't get me wrong, these two are GODS and I love watching them play.... But they're basically taking away the opportunity for others to join them in their world :/
So MLG is for minor league players?
Its a legit league like any other. Any player can play.
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
yea they should bar one of the best startcraft 2 players and best zerg player in the world because he was focused on a more prestiges tournament and spits on their sad prize pool for someone who has to travel 15 hours just to try to get it. /sarcasm
Make it 20K or something a regular MLG tourny and i bet Nestea might have shown up.
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
yea they should bar one of the best startcraft 2 players and best zerg player in the world because he was focused on a more prestiges tournament and spits on their sad prize pool for someone who has to travel 15 hours just to try to get it. /sarcasm
Make it 20K or something a regular MLG tourny and i bet Nestea might have shown up.
On October 24 2011 05:39 Erasme wrote: Sorry, but why is Nestea coming ? He didnt won any of MLG and have no points. (And we all saw at which level he play when tired.)
Cause he has as much right to join the open brackets as anyone else if he comes over?
On October 22 2011 05:01 AXygnus wrote: It begins.
Their so-called "Foreign Death Squad" is moving out. MVP, Nestea, Losira and Fenix. War is coming and with all its glory.
Fenix???? to talk about him in the same way as MVP,Nestea and Losira is a insult to them. they are Code S stars, and well Fenix has done...
Fenix hasnt even got Code A material.
He did pretty well in the GSTL and joined IM. He's been several months in Korea training.. I am pretty sure he'll be among the favorites in any foreign tournament. Oh, and getting code A - something DRG didn't get either - isn't the only thing used to measure a players' skill.. heck not a single foreign player has ever gotten code A going through code B.. you now, the way koreans get it -- not even Huk.
On October 24 2011 06:07 s4life wrote: heck not a single foreign player has ever gotten code A going through code B.. you now, the way koreans get it -- not even Huk.
IdrA went through open qualifiers to get into the GSL 3x in a row. That's right, he qualified exactly how every korean did.
There weren't "codes" back then, but the principle is the same.
On October 24 2011 06:07 s4life wrote: heck not a single foreign player has ever gotten code A going through code B.. you now, the way koreans get it -- not even Huk.
IdrA went through open qualifiers to get into the GSL 3x in a row. That's right, he qualified exactly how every korean did.
There weren't "codes" back then, but the principle is the same.
Not really, there were more qualification spots open and people were worse.
So does anyone know if they'll be starting on opposite of the Open Bracket or what? Is there a chance one may knock out the other before championship bracket?
On October 22 2011 05:10 BreakfastTea wrote: Actually, fuck that. Nestea shouldn't be able to compete in the grand final tournament if he hasn't come to any of the other MLGs. That's too much money on the line for someone who hasn't participated in any of the other events to come in and take a shot at it, especially where other players have committed time and effort to those tournaments in order to get a good placement in the tournament.
yea they should bar one of the best startcraft 2 players and best zerg player in the world because he was focused on a more prestiges tournament and spits on their sad prize pool for someone who has to travel 15 hours just to try to get it. /sarcasm
Make it 20K or something a regular MLG tourny and i bet Nestea might have shown up.
this and there's an open bracket for a reason
While I fully agree with this and am looking forward to seeing Nestea at another foreign tournament (hell, every chance to see that guy is awesome), I have to say the open bracket is a bit silly in this case. If somebody wins through it it would be like NASL all over again, where lots of players played over 10 weeks and then a "random" guy appears out of nowhere and takes the first prize.^^
On October 24 2011 06:07 s4life wrote: heck not a single foreign player has ever gotten code A going through code B.. you now, the way koreans get it -- not even Huk.
IdrA went through open qualifiers to get into the GSL 3x in a row. That's right, he qualified exactly how every korean did.
There weren't "codes" back then, but the principle is the same.
back then bitbybitprime and TLO also qualified.. heh
On October 23 2011 17:34 Seeker wrote: Yeah..... I'm not really excited for this.....
I think MLG is supposed to be for people that are not in Code S. Not for ppl that DOMINATE the SCII scene, have won 3 GSLs, and were just invited to Blizzcon.
Don't get me wrong, these two are GODS and I love watching them play.... But they're basically taking away the opportunity for others to join them in their world :/
but the thing is that there are no korean seeds this time for the MLG-GSL exchange in the format for providence in that thread.
also, the code S spot goes to the highest placing person OUTSIDE of code S
and mvp, bomber, and huk, who won the last 3 are all code S. MMA, who won the won before that just won code S.
Ahh kay, mb. I didn't realize Providence was like the grand MLG. So, this is basically not the same as other MLGs, correcT?
This one has not Group stage I believe. One 32 man Championship bracket with 16 of the seeds going to players based on points earned over the previous events, and the other 16 seeds based on the top 16 players from the 256-man Open Bracket. I am not sure, but I think players with points get priority in bracket seeing in the Open Bracket too if they do not have enough to qualify for the Championship Bracket.
In this case, MVP gets seeded into the Championship Bracket, while NesTea has 0 points so he starts at the very bottom of the Open Bracket and must earn his Champion Bracket spot.
MVP doesn't get a championship bracket seed, he's in the Open Bracket.
I'm going to MLG Providence for my first event ever as a spectator AND Nestea is going to be there? Best $25 I have ever spent in my life. So many nerd chills!!
On October 22 2011 05:00 Heathen wrote: NOOOOO How about the non-koreans. They are going to have a hard time now.
So they had it easy before? ^^ Nah, this is quite sick and a good thing for non-koreans, as least you can messure your skill quite well with them. if you have to play them, it should be a great honor.
On October 24 2011 06:07 s4life wrote: heck not a single foreign player has ever gotten code A going through code B.. you now, the way koreans get it -- not even Huk.
IdrA went through open qualifiers to get into the GSL 3x in a row. That's right, he qualified exactly how every korean did.
There weren't "codes" back then, but the principle is the same.
back then bitbybitprime and TLO also qualified.. heh
Well, TLO was still quite good back then, until RSI hit him.
Well, our foreigner hopes certainly are in quite a bit of trouble. Here's hoping Stephano could go into Korean all-kill mode again, lol. Probably won't happen, I know - but it would certainly change the view on Korea vs. The World if a foreigner took home a tournament as deadly as this one.
On October 23 2011 17:34 Seeker wrote: Yeah..... I'm not really excited for this.....
I think MLG is supposed to be for people that are not in Code S. Not for ppl that DOMINATE the SCII scene, have won 3 GSLs, and were just invited to Blizzcon.
Don't get me wrong, these two are GODS and I love watching them play.... But they're basically taking away the opportunity for others to join them in their world :/
but the thing is that there are no korean seeds this time for the MLG-GSL exchange in the format for providence in that thread.
also, the code S spot goes to the highest placing person OUTSIDE of code S
and mvp, bomber, and huk, who won the last 3 are all code S. MMA, who won the won before that just won code S.
Ahh kay, mb. I didn't realize Providence was like the grand MLG. So, this is basically not the same as other MLGs, correcT?
This one has not Group stage I believe. One 32 man Championship bracket with 16 of the seeds going to players based on points earned over the previous events, and the other 16 seeds based on the top 16 players from the 256-man Open Bracket. I am not sure, but I think players with points get priority in bracket seeing in the Open Bracket too if they do not have enough to qualify for the Championship Bracket.
In this case, MVP gets seeded into the Championship Bracket, while NesTea has 0 points so he starts at the very bottom of the Open Bracket and must earn his Champion Bracket spot.
MVP doesn't get a championship bracket seed, he's in the Open Bracket.
On October 23 2011 17:34 Seeker wrote: Yeah..... I'm not really excited for this.....
I think MLG is supposed to be for people that are not in Code S. Not for ppl that DOMINATE the SCII scene, have won 3 GSLs, and were just invited to Blizzcon.
Don't get me wrong, these two are GODS and I love watching them play.... But they're basically taking away the opportunity for others to join them in their world :/
but the thing is that there are no korean seeds this time for the MLG-GSL exchange in the format for providence in that thread.
also, the code S spot goes to the highest placing person OUTSIDE of code S
and mvp, bomber, and huk, who won the last 3 are all code S. MMA, who won the won before that just won code S.
Ahh kay, mb. I didn't realize Providence was like the grand MLG. So, this is basically not the same as other MLGs, correcT?
This one has not Group stage I believe. One 32 man Championship bracket with 16 of the seeds going to players based on points earned over the previous events, and the other 16 seeds based on the top 16 players from the 256-man Open Bracket. I am not sure, but I think players with points get priority in bracket seeing in the Open Bracket too if they do not have enough to qualify for the Championship Bracket.
In this case, MVP gets seeded into the Championship Bracket, while NesTea has 0 points so he starts at the very bottom of the Open Bracket and must earn his Champion Bracket spot.
MVP doesn't get a championship bracket seed, he's in the Open Bracket.
Major lolz if Huk rolls through MLG again. I know that these guys are the best right now, but I know some of the foreigners are capable of beating them. Idra and Huk being the most obvious choices, but lets not rule out Naniwa who has now gotten a chance to play Nesteas and see them up close at Blizzcon. And the map pool won't be as retarded!
On October 25 2011 04:09 Lore-Fighting wrote: Major lolz if Huk rolls through MLG again. I know that these guys are the best right now, but I know some of the foreigners are capable of beating them. Idra and Huk being the most obvious choices, but lets not rule out Naniwa who has now gotten a chance to play Nesteas and see them up close at Blizzcon. And the map pool won't be as retarded!
Won't happen unless several miracles occur like the top tier koreans knocking eachother out and Huk dodging them all. Remember how mvp absolutely demolished huk in GSL?
On October 25 2011 04:09 Lore-Fighting wrote: Major lolz if Huk rolls through MLG again. I know that these guys are the best right now, but I know some of the foreigners are capable of beating them. Idra and Huk being the most obvious choices, but lets not rule out Naniwa who has now gotten a chance to play Nesteas and see them up close at Blizzcon. And the map pool won't be as retarded!
Huk/Idra/Naniwa/Stephano/(other best foreigners) are capable of beating most Koreans, but Nestea and MVP are on a different level compared to everyone right now.
I love Nestea and MVP, but this feels a bit like putting sharks in the guppy tank.
The foreigner skill level is high enough to at least give them a run for their money (actually more of a leisurely stroll for their money). Honestly, though, in all likelihood they will just demolish everyone they play until they face each other (or MMA if he's coming). I hope not...I don't find massively one-sided games very interesting.
I feel that the favorite to win would still be MMA, simply due to his seeding. MVP and Nestea are certainly dominant, but by no means invincible. The open brackets are treacherous, especially during the national championships. Remember that players such as Alicia, Alive and Polt have all failed to make pool play during MLG (though Polt did advance very far through the loser's bracket). The fact that MMA is already so far up in the tournament is a huge advantage.
Still, best of luck to MVP and Nestea. Should make this tournament the must-see tournament of November, if not the year.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people are confused with the Global Inv thing. The finals of the global invititational are AT MLG Providence, but not related to the event. Nestea and MVP are going in the open bracket. In other words, if MVP is in the grand finals of the Global Invitational then he is competing in 2 events whereas Nestea just needs to roll the open bracket.
Didn't MVP win one of the Mlg events this year? If so, isn't it a little strange that you can *win* one of the qualifier events and still not get a seeded spot into what is effectively the finals which all the "qualifer events" have been leading up to?
And this event is shaping up to be awesome, so many good players :D Personally i hope Incontrol finally gets his act together and wins the entire thing, that would be the perfect fairy tale ending.
On October 25 2011 11:53 killerdog wrote: Didn't MVP win one of the Mlg events this year? If so, isn't it a little strange that you can *win* one of the qualifier events and still not get a seeded spot into what is effectively the finals which all the "qualifer events" have been leading up to?
And this event is shaping up to be awesome, so many good players :D Personally i hope Incontrol finally gets his act together and wins the entire thing, that would be the perfect fairy tale ending.
The way the points end up working is that you have to go to at least 2 events to have enough points for the championship.
I dont think MVP or Neaste will win. Tbh plowing thru the open bracket will take a lot of games and effort, they will probably be very jetlaged and when they reach the final rounds they will face players who have just been resting and chilling for the entire tourney, planning exactly how to beat them.
I think even Huk, Idra and Naniwa could do it with the retarded setup that MLG have.
Tbh if one of them win this MLG it should be a freaking huge thing, but it wont feel as epic when you know how big difference there is between how many games MVP and Neaste have to play compared to Idra, Naniwa and Huk.
On October 25 2011 14:45 purpose wrote: I dont think MVP or Neaste will win. Tbh plowing thru the open bracket will take a lot of games and effort, they will probably be very jetlaged and when they reach the final rounds they will face players who have just been resting and chilling for the entire tourney, planning exactly how to beat them.
I think even Huk, Idra and Naniwa could do it with the retarded setup that MLG have.
Tbh if one of them win this MLG it should be a freaking huge thing, but it wont feel as epic when you know how big difference there is between how many games MVP and Neaste have to play compared to Idra, Naniwa and Huk.
This. At first I thought people were joking about Nestea/MVP coming to this means we already know the top 2 and foreigners have no hope and it's unfair, but now it actually sounds like some are a little serious. I mean, really?
Both Nestea and MVP dropped games to foreigners at blizzcon and that didn't even have the grueling open bracket that these guys have to go though here. There's also the added factor of neither of them knowing the playstyle/skill of most of the foreigners, while their capabilities are fully known. Furthermore, considering this is the national and MLG has gotten more fierce in recent months, I'd imagine the open will contain plenty of Koreans as well, in addition to some of the better foreign players.
Also, Nestea has said that he gets tired after a lot of games and MVP has the unfortunate condition with his hands. So there's something else to consider..
On October 25 2011 05:56 dangm24 wrote: why don\'t we just give MVP the money....saves him the trip. but i hope the top foreigners wins all!
Why would we give MVP MMA's money?...
LOL, win......
But this can only happen if MMA shows up...
Otherwise, I think Mvp's got this!
MMA spent a week with his entire team probably coming up with strategies and watching replays of MVP. He played amazingly well, but MVP kept a lot of those games close and even won one, even though MMA had a strategy to counter MVP on every map. MVP came into the finals doing the same old, no specific strategies and it cost him. Not taking anything away from MMA, he played great, but I'd put money down that MVP is fixing the holes in his game against what MMA did and I highly doubt the series goes the same way again.
On October 25 2011 04:09 Lore-Fighting wrote: Major lolz if Huk rolls through MLG again. I know that these guys are the best right now, but I know some of the foreigners are capable of beating them. Idra and Huk being the most obvious choices, but lets not rule out Naniwa who has now gotten a chance to play Nesteas and see them up close at Blizzcon. And the map pool won't be as retarded!
You remember how Huk's last game in GSL vs Mvp looked like?
He needs to step up 10 times more to close that skill gap.
On October 25 2011 05:56 dangm24 wrote: why don\'t we just give MVP the money....saves him the trip. but i hope the top foreigners wins all!
Why would we give MVP MMA's money?...
LOL, win......
But this can only happen if MMA shows up...
Otherwise, I think Mvp's got this!
MMA spent a week with his entire team probably coming up with strategies and watching replays of MVP. He played amazingly well, but MVP kept a lot of those games close and even won one, even though MMA had a strategy to counter MVP on every map. MVP came into the finals doing the same old, no specific strategies and it cost him. Not taking anything away from MMA, he played great, but I'd put money down that MVP is fixing the holes in his game against what MMA did and I highly doubt the series goes the same way again.
I am sure this was the case with the other 3 matches MVP lost to MMA as well, before the GSL finals? Lol... -_-.
I think MVP will win or get top 4. But for some reason I think Nestea will get knocked out farther down in the brackets. He is super strong in the GSL format where he can prepare for a certain opponent on certain maps. But he seemed way weaker at Blizzcon.... he still seemed very strong, but nothing close to his usual performance. In the finals vs mvp he looked weaker than IdrA in that matchup even... so many hugh mistakes.
On October 25 2011 05:56 dangm24 wrote: why don\'t we just give MVP the money....saves him the trip. but i hope the top foreigners wins all!
Why would we give MVP MMA's money?...
LOL, win......
But this can only happen if MMA shows up...
Otherwise, I think Mvp's got this!
MMA spent a week with his entire team probably coming up with strategies and watching replays of MVP. He played amazingly well, but MVP kept a lot of those games close and even won one, even though MMA had a strategy to counter MVP on every map. MVP came into the finals doing the same old, no specific strategies and it cost him. Not taking anything away from MMA, he played great, but I'd put money down that MVP is fixing the holes in his game against what MMA did and I highly doubt the series goes the same way again.
I am sure this was the case with the other 3 matches MVP lost to MMA as well, before the GSL finals? Lol... -_-.
Nope your right. MMA is the superior player. But Marineking is superior to MMA, since he 3-0d him last time they met in a very prestigious online tournament worth lots of money.
On October 25 2011 05:56 dangm24 wrote: why don\'t we just give MVP the money....saves him the trip. but i hope the top foreigners wins all!
Why would we give MVP MMA's money?...
LOL, win......
But this can only happen if MMA shows up...
Otherwise, I think Mvp's got this!
MMA spent a week with his entire team probably coming up with strategies and watching replays of MVP. He played amazingly well, but MVP kept a lot of those games close and even won one, even though MMA had a strategy to counter MVP on every map. MVP came into the finals doing the same old, no specific strategies and it cost him. Not taking anything away from MMA, he played great, but I'd put money down that MVP is fixing the holes in his game against what MMA did and I highly doubt the series goes the same way again.
Umm.... I think u misunderstood me. I pretty much said that MMA CAN beat Mvp,as proven by GSL. And what I meant by MVP's got this is ONLY if MMA DOESN'T show up......
On October 25 2011 05:56 dangm24 wrote: why don\'t we just give MVP the money....saves him the trip. but i hope the top foreigners wins all!
Why would we give MVP MMA's money?...
LOL, win......
But this can only happen if MMA shows up...
Otherwise, I think Mvp's got this!
MMA spent a week with his entire team probably coming up with strategies and watching replays of MVP. He played amazingly well, but MVP kept a lot of those games close and even won one, even though MMA had a strategy to counter MVP on every map. MVP came into the finals doing the same old, no specific strategies and it cost him. Not taking anything away from MMA, he played great, but I'd put money down that MVP is fixing the holes in his game against what MMA did and I highly doubt the series goes the same way again.
I am sure this was the case with the other 3 matches MVP lost to MMA as well, before the GSL finals? Lol... -_-.
Nope your right. MMA is the superior player. But Marineking is superior to MMA, since he 3-0d him last time they met in a very prestigious online tournament worth lots of money.
Who cares about MKP? He isn't in this tournament. Why would you even bring him up? This is MMA's MLG.
People saying MVP or nestea aren't a favorite to win because of the grueling schedule are ridiculous. The open bracket is only 7 to 8 bo3's followed by another 5 bo3's if they win it. That's only around 26 to 39 games in a two day period. These guys play that much daily ( against stiffer competition at that) just for practice.
On October 27 2011 02:20 Zath.erin wrote: People saying MVP or nestea aren't a favorite to win because of the grueling schedule are ridiculous. The open bracket is only 7 to 8 bo3's followed by another 5 bo3's if they win it. That's only around 26 to 39 games in a two day period. These guys play that much daily ( against stiffer competition at that) just for practice.
except in practice its okay if you lose. in practice, they PLAY that many games + more. here, they have to WIN that many
On October 27 2011 02:20 Zath.erin wrote: People saying MVP or nestea aren't a favorite to win because of the grueling schedule are ridiculous. The open bracket is only 7 to 8 bo3's followed by another 5 bo3's if they win it. That's only around 26 to 39 games in a two day period. These guys play that much daily ( against stiffer competition at that) just for practice.
except in practice its okay if you lose. in practice, they PLAY that many games + more. here, they have to WIN that many
Not that hard vs players that aren't on the same level they practice with ^^
On October 27 2011 02:20 Zath.erin wrote: People saying MVP or nestea aren't a favorite to win because of the grueling schedule are ridiculous. The open bracket is only 7 to 8 bo3's followed by another 5 bo3's if they win it. That's only around 26 to 39 games in a two day period. These guys play that much daily ( against stiffer competition at that) just for practice.
except in practice its okay if you lose. in practice, they PLAY that many games + more. here, they have to WIN that many
except they wont lose, lol, they play like 50+ games a day .. 26-39 games is nothing.
On October 27 2011 02:20 Zath.erin wrote: People saying MVP or nestea aren't a favorite to win because of the grueling schedule are ridiculous. The open bracket is only 7 to 8 bo3's followed by another 5 bo3's if they win it. That's only around 26 to 39 games in a two day period. These guys play that much daily ( against stiffer competition at that) just for practice.
except in practice its okay if you lose. in practice, they PLAY that many games + more. here, they have to WIN that many
except they wont lose, lol, they play like 50+ games a day .. 26-39 games is nothing.
live environment != practice environment, it is much more stressful live
I really hope they don't make it to the finals. We've seen what they do when they are in a finals against each other. Huge buzz kill when you can tell they don't care about the win.
somehow i have a feeling that mvp will make it out comfortably but nestea might struggle. How good are the opens by the way?, havent seen the type of players coming in yet.
On October 27 2011 02:20 Zath.erin wrote: People saying MVP or nestea aren't a favorite to win because of the grueling schedule are ridiculous. The open bracket is only 7 to 8 bo3's followed by another 5 bo3's if they win it. That's only around 26 to 39 games in a two day period. These guys play that much daily ( against stiffer competition at that) just for practice.
except in practice its okay if you lose. in practice, they PLAY that many games + more. here, they have to WIN that many
except they wont lose, lol, they play like 50+ games a day .. 26-39 games is nothing.
live environment != practice environment, it is much more stressful live
no actually theres little difference when your chance of losing the open bracket games is less than 1% due to the skill gap half the games are like taking a stretch to be honest