Nobody Plays 1v1 Ladder Anymore? - Page 5
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Versioned
United Kingdom73 Posts
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Artik
United States71 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 13 2012 23:36 Lorch wrote: Big game comes out. Everyone plays it. Casuals move on. Slowly but steadily a core of active players remians. This has happened with every game and will continue to happen. Both expansions will bring a huge boost in activity when a lot of the more casual guys return. Also a lot of people just don't really play 1 v 1 but customs/team games. Plus I'm not sure how accurate these stats even are in the first place, not everyone is listed on sc2ranks, I wasn't till I had to manually add my char. This sounds about right, but I hope it's not. Getting flashbacks to what happened with WC3. Eventually the community dwindled to just the hardcore players (many of whom switched to ICCup) and people doing stupid strategies and people playing team games. I haven't been on the WC3 battlenet for a long time, but I'm guessing it's pretty lonely these days. On February 13 2012 23:57 Animzor wrote: Yes! The main problem, I believe, is the custom game system. The custom games in WC3 and BW kept me playing for 10 years even though I wasn't part of any community and I didn't have friends playing. I didn't even touch ladder games until one year before SC2 came out. Unfortunately, in SC2 there's always the same 10 custom maps that you are able to play, the rest just sit there in limbo. I could literally spend and entire day playing custom maps in BW because there was always something new, and even when there wasn't something new, I could always start any map I wanted. When I get sick of playing 1on1s in SC2, there is NOTHING to do. I hate what Blizzard has done to the custom game system. I think this can have the reverse effect though. Dota pulled a lot of players away from vanilla WC3. Instead of learning a complex game and spending the time to get good, a lot of players just switched over to playing dota because it was easy and simple. Probably one of the reasons I still have a dislike of Dota to this day. | ||
SilverJohnny
United States885 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:05 TheToast wrote: This sounds about right, but I hope it's not. Getting flashbacks to what happened with WC3. Eventually the community dwindled to just the hardcore players (many of whom switched to ICCup) and people doing stupid strategies and people playing team games. I haven't been on the WC3 battlenet for a long time, but I'm guessing it's pretty lonely these days. I think this can have the reverse effect though. Dota pulled a lot of players away from vanilla WC3. Instead of learning a complex game and spending the time to get good, a lot of players just switched over to playing dota because it was easy and simple. Probably one of the reasons I still have a dislike of Dota to this day. The benefit of WC3 was that it also had a HUGE custom game/casual player scene. In sc2, you pretty much either ladder or play the 10ish terrible custom games on the front page of the custom maps menu. | ||
Hantak
Chile59 Posts
bye bye sc2 for now... im itching to play mass effect 3... liara t'soni here i come! /rawr/ | ||
eccokk
Germany38 Posts
if i come home from a long day its nicer to play a game of whatever just to relax instead of getting even more stressed in sc2 1on1. i went from playing a lot to almost nothing becouse the better you get the more time you need to invest to keep your level of mechanics and its just not worth my time. | ||
Garmer
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:04 Xcobidoo wrote: I need stats! Which maps am I good on, which MU's etc. I have no idea why they are so protective of lower league players, I can't even see how many games I've lost?.... really? The maps play a big role aswell, I currently have max maps banned and that leaves like 4-5 to play on, taking into consideration other peoples bans aswell it's like 3 maps constantly. Also, sc2 without friends is so desolate it's scary... This so much. What does a lower league player have to strive for other then league promotion? I'm a gold league player, always will be. Would I like to make it to a higher league someday? Sure, but the chances of that happening are slim. Now maybe if I had something else to motivate me to play, maybe I could get better becasue I waould play more. Stats would surely help me with this. Sure they might not reflect a persons skill but it would motivate me to play. SO my record is 140w-150L my goal for the gaming session would be lets try to break even. If I had a goal other then league promotion I might actually put some serious effort in to try and get better. But right now whats the point? Battle-net is a barren wasteland of nothing. It's plain and boring. | ||
Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
This could all be solved by mimicking just about everything from War3. Imagine a Sc2 with weekly tournaments based on your division, a custom game environment that didn't suck and clan support. This game feels so incomplete and having to pay another 80 euro's and wait another 5 years before we get any of this stuff just is so sad. | ||
Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On February 13 2012 23:14 Joseph123 wrote: 1. Perhaps add maps that are worth playing, how am i supposed to ladder a lot when there are 7 maps from which I've banned 3, so I'm playing the same maps over and over again and I don't even like them Solution: add more maps + more bans. 2. Battle.net is a lonely boring place, all you can do is click find match button and that's all I do. If you want to get involved, you can do that, but that requires a lot of time and effort outside the game to find the people to do so. Solution: Fix battle.net 3. There are no statistics about your games, just some boring match history that requires so much time to open anyway Solution: Add more features to 1v1 statistics, I can't think of all of them, but statistics about every maps, every bo, every race, etc.. No, I don't want to use Sc2gears for that. 4. How am i supposed to keep on playing when i get 10 pvp's in a row? I don't care that "this is your luck" or something, I don't have all the time in the world to click the find match button, so if I play 10 games, I want them to be against all races.........................................? Solution: Fix that. 5. The division system is completely retarded, there isn't a real way to compare yourself to your opponent and to all the people.... Just no comment, you are top1 master in one division, but in other you're like top25. Seriously? What is the point in that? The whole statistics are meaningless, you don't get any information about your skill improvement. 6. Things that compare you to other players such as apm are completely ruined by absolutely no reason, good job Blizzard -1 thing that can compare you to other people. I can continue, but there is no point, they have shown no intention in making battle.net a place that you can do anything else other than pressing "Find match" and then using 3rd party programs for statistics. So people like me who wanna play maybe 20 games a day are gonna play a lot less, because there is nothing to keep us continuing to play after a long series of pvp's or just nothing happening, just staying at one place, no way to guess after this 20 games, did I improve or not? Did my MMR jump high or not? Of course I'm not able to understand that, because of bonus pool. Well done. I agree with you 100%. Everything you said is 100% right. Not to mention the game is just aimed at promotions and well, as you said I could be rank 1 masters in one league, but then be rank 20 in another masters league that is more active. | ||
HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
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iSofisticated
United States7 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States42211 Posts
On February 13 2012 23:46 sharky246 wrote: Does the "BM" in sc2 really count as BM? I mean it's just a sore loser raging over his loss (leaving without gg is not Bm btw), and that kinda makes it a sweet victory. I hardly get any chat, not even gg or glhf. As for a winner's BM, you can just leave the game. ??? Raging over your loss is the epitome of BM. It doesn't matter what game you're playing. If someone calls you a fucking faggot cheesy all-inner noobsauce blah blah blah, it's lovely BM. But I agree with you that not typing gl or hf or gg isn't BM. Some people take it too far with assuming that not having overly good manners is automatically being bad-mannered lol. | ||
TenTigers
32 Posts
On February 13 2012 23:38 rEalGuapo wrote: You win, you smile for half a second. You lose, you hate your stupidity for hours, sometimes days. Reward/Risk ratio doesn't seem right to me This is soo true for me, i just dont get the amount of satisfaction after winning a game to outweigh the feeling of disappointment after a loss :s | ||
Makura
United States317 Posts
But seriously I suppose many people have found it too stressful/difficult and much rather would enjoy sc2 as a spectator | ||
Bulkers
Poland509 Posts
Its also natural that game after 1,5 year will not be played by as many people as at the release. | ||
Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:16 TenTigers wrote: This is soo true for me, i just dont get the amount of satisfaction after winning a game to outweigh the feeling of disappointment after a loss :s Another good point as well. Compared to a game like CS where every single kill feels like a reward, SC2 doesn't really reward you much for your efforts at all. | ||
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