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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 12 2015 21:27 FanaticCZ wrote: Actually this mission gave me a really hard time. I killed 6/7 of those easily although slowly losing my bases in the process. But the seventh crystal was a pain. I was using mass ultralisk and the last crystal appeared in the top right on the edge of the surface and Kerrigan was narrowly able to snipe it right in time with her special ability while all of my ultras were meatshielding her from Amons battlecruisers and banshees. Really close in the end. Amon destroying my bases never was an issue for me. If you double expand and saturate asap you mine out of minerals right around the time Amon blows up the base.
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On November 12 2015 21:33 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 21:27 FanaticCZ wrote: Actually this mission gave me a really hard time. I killed 6/7 of those easily although slowly losing my bases in the process. But the seventh crystal was a pain. I was using mass ultralisk and the last crystal appeared in the top right on the edge of the surface and Kerrigan was narrowly able to snipe it right in time with her special ability while all of my ultras were meatshielding her from Amons battlecruisers and banshees. Really close in the end. Amon destroying my bases never was an issue for me. If you double expand and saturate asap you mine out of minerals right around the time Amon blows up the base.
Yeah that was my experience as well.
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On November 12 2015 21:33 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 21:27 FanaticCZ wrote: Actually this mission gave me a really hard time. I killed 6/7 of those easily although slowly losing my bases in the process. But the seventh crystal was a pain. I was using mass ultralisk and the last crystal appeared in the top right on the edge of the surface and Kerrigan was narrowly able to snipe it right in time with her special ability while all of my ultras were meatshielding her from Amons battlecruisers and banshees. Really close in the end. Amon destroying my bases never was an issue for me. If you double expand and saturate asap you mine out of minerals right around the time Amon blows up the base. Same with me but the problem was that I couldnt make more stuff since ive lost my hatcheries when the bases got overrun. I had a huge bank even at the end.
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I tried it with mass Roaches at first, but they're just too squishy and you basically end up spamhealing nonstop with Kerrigan. With full Ultras I could afford to use that beam on her and still keep everything alive. Think I was sitting on 20k minerals at the end while waiting for the 7th crystal to show up in a good spot.
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On November 12 2015 12:19 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 08:36 Darpa wrote: how do you get kerrigan over to the islands? Overlords don't carry or spread creep so I have no idea how I'm supposed to get over there to get the stones that are floating around.
I was able to do it with a huge pack of mutas on Hard, but brutal not so much. There's more than 7 void crystals, but you only need to kill 7 of them. Just gotta be patient, one will float by the accessible area above artanis's base eventually.
Oh I didnt know that. Thanks
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I restarted 3 times and settled on this. Autocast-heal-Queens + Broods + Ultra is good. A few Hydras for some AA DPS. 6 spines + 2 Lurkers at each side base. Wait for close to 200/200 to really go out and hit stuff. Build your tech toward the front of your base, not the back, to protect tech from Amon's base destruction antics. Get all ups. Push that fast spread creep.
I had 6 of the 7 crystals spawn between mine and Raynor and mine and Artanis's bases, so on creep and easy to get to and kill. For the last one I just used Kerrigan's "kill-all" thing, then sacced Kerrigan against anti-air as she accompanied 12 or so Broodlords to the island it was on. Broodlords killed it ezpz.
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So I've restarted this about 10 times, either I'm missing something or doing it way wrong. Mass ultras kinda work and I can kill a few crystals, but it gets to a point where I cant even get to the ones the other corners of the map without having to fight through like 3 spawn camp things but before I'm halfway through, I have to run back and defend. I've tried just move commanding through the camps but with so much stuff on the ground + the aoe stun it becomes a pathfinding nightmare and everything dies.
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First I tried Ultra/Hydra, but got annoyed because the crystals kept spawning on islands and stuff. So I restarted, went mass muta, sniped them all no matter where they were. Kerrigan by herself could basically defend everything, with some spines/spores to delay.
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I did this with Ultra/BL, moving Kerrigan around with the army to continuously heal her. Wasn't very hard but was mentally draining. I also failed massively and didn't utilize the creep relocate ability enough. If you have good enough mechanics and spreed enough creep you should easily be able to do hop from crystal to crystal and finish it in like 20 minutes. For me it took like 50 agonizing minutes and 3-4 tries...
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Poland3743 Posts
I'm somehow always loosing few units to terrain destruction. Any suggestions?
EDIT nvm
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On November 13 2015 15:09 Louuster wrote: So I've restarted this about 10 times, either I'm missing something or doing it way wrong. Mass ultras kinda work and I can kill a few crystals, but it gets to a point where I cant even get to the ones the other corners of the map without having to fight through like 3 spawn camp things but before I'm halfway through, I have to run back and defend. I've tried just move commanding through the camps but with so much stuff on the ground + the aoe stun it becomes a pathfinding nightmare and everything dies.
Kerrigan has an ability that kills all units on the map (does 300 dmg to every enemy unit). Are you using that?
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Ok guys. This was real easy after I realized this:
I just need to make Ultra-Broodlords
Broodlords broodlign tank damage and draw fire away from the towers while broodlord as their numbers stack deal incredible dps. Ultras tank everythign and just dont die.
Island crystal? Just send 30 broodlords over and it will be down without ANY damage done to your broodlords.
On November 14 2015 11:26 KrisElmqvist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2015 15:09 Louuster wrote: So I've restarted this about 10 times, either I'm missing something or doing it way wrong. Mass ultras kinda work and I can kill a few crystals, but it gets to a point where I cant even get to the ones the other corners of the map without having to fight through like 3 spawn camp things but before I'm halfway through, I have to run back and defend. I've tried just move commanding through the camps but with so much stuff on the ground + the aoe stun it becomes a pathfinding nightmare and everything dies. Kerrigan has an ability that kills all units on the map (does 300 dmg to every enemy unit). Are you using that?
She had that? Well that would maek this campaign much easier but I didn't need to use it with ultra-BL
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On November 12 2015 02:55 ZAiNs wrote: Any ideas on how to beat this on Brutal with no Ultralisks? Can't speak for Brutal but I managed to beat it on Hard with only Roach Hydra
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melee units can attack all void crystals? I only remember that 2 void crystals were on land. I also never used kerrigans speels except her heal one. 14min done under normal difficulty with roach+hydra.
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On November 12 2015 07:22 rangi wrote: I did the full muta method.
Made 200/200 of 3/3 mutas including sacking all of my drones. Flew around sniping the Void crystals and avoided everything else. I also snuck drones out to the terran and protoss bases and built a hatch there for when they inevitably kill my bases.
I really love this method. Because, honestly? Fuck this map, and fuck these giant ass crystals with a million health. So nice to wait up and just snipe all the objectives with no one bothering you.
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On November 12 2015 07:22 rangi wrote: I did the full muta method.
Made 200/200 of 3/3 mutas including sacking all of my drones. Flew around sniping the Void crystals and avoided everything else. I also snuck drones out to the terran and protoss bases and built a hatch there for when they inevitably kill my bases. Very smart idea Lair and Spire. You dont die if you have no structures anymore. I had this scenario after I killed 6/7 void crystals.
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On November 14 2015 19:45 Dingodile wrote: melee units can attack all void crystals? I only remember that 2 void crystals were on land. I also never used kerrigans speels except her heal one. 14min done under normal difficulty with roach+hydra. there keep spawning new void crystals, in my mono ultra run i only killed land based void crystals
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On November 15 2015 00:29 annedeman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 19:45 Dingodile wrote: melee units can attack all void crystals? I only remember that 2 void crystals were on land. I also never used kerrigans speels except her heal one. 14min done under normal difficulty with roach+hydra. there keep spawning new void crystals(and old ones go away after a while), in my mono ultra run i only killed land based void crystals ps.oops i quoted myself instead of editting
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On November 14 2015 06:07 nimdil wrote: I'm somehow always loosing few units to terrain destruction. Any suggestions?
EDIT nvm
I've replayed it twice on normal, killed all my units except a mutalisk hit squad and drones, backed off my drones and had them canabalize each other before the hatch destruction hits, and still can't get this achievement.
Any tips on what could be killing something? Is there a terrain destruction that hits mutas or does kerrigan count?
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Russian Federation80 Posts
On November 11 2015 21:16 Plexa wrote: So I got wrecked the first time I did this. But then I stopped derping and the level was super easy. Basically - Use extinction (on Kerrigan) to set up for killing Void crystals - Ultralisks are broken as hell with Kerrigans AoE heal - Hydra/Muta for AA when necessary - Greed super hard early on (i.e. double expand and fully saturate) before moving out, a few spines/spores to defend will be good enough as a stall if Kerrigan is off somewhere (teleport back if needed)
This mission felt so easy. I've been derping my first attempt (lost my army on first crystal - lings and roaches mostly, clearing void thingies spawning enemy units - I thought they are my objectives at first xD) and still won... Ultras broken, aoe heal helps keeping alive even hydras, so i've just been spamming heal on cd every time I was fighting pillars and that is my detailed "guide" for this mission :D
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