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So apparently twitch.tv decided to change the range of resolutions (240p-1080p) to low, medium, high and source.
Now, every time I turn on a stream, it gets laggy and choppy, even in low. What bothers me the most is that medium and high dont even look any good at all, obviously still better than low but i get blurry. High looks like what I used to get with 360p-480p tbh. This didnt happend before this new options came out.
So my question is. does buying the $8.99 twitch.tv subscription solves this or am i royally screwed ?
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The subscription's not gonna change your connection to server, it just removes ads etc, no?
AFAIK, low, med, high is just renamed 360p, 480p, 720p transcodes, exactly the same thing, but i may be wrong about that, if there was a memo then i missed it
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On August 29 2013 10:07 Cyro wrote: The subscription's not gonna change your connection to server, it just removes ads etc, no?
AFAIK, low, med, high is just renamed 360p, 480p, 720p transcodes, exactly the same thing, but i may be wrong about that, if there was a memo then i missed it
If thats so, it mades 480p = medium, but i had a really nice stream at 480p, while I cant get medium to be continous and not blurry. I only had trouble with 720p+ at peak hours, but 480p was fine all the time. Again my connection hasnt change, I can see youtube and other streaming sites as I always do, just twitch is giving me a hard time TT
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Are you running a Windows 7/8 machine? The resource monitor is great for things like this, using the network tab.
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Twitch posted some info about the revamp on their blog:
We’ll soon be changing our transcode labels from 240p/360p/etc, to “Low,” “Medium,” and “High.” Live (the actual quality set in your broadcast software) will continue being an option on web as long as partners are sending us an excellent quality stream, and will be renamed to “Source.” This is for a number of reasons, primarily to unify the Twitch experience across all platforms. We also want to shift viewers away from the idea that broadcasting at a higher resolution (without considering bitrates, framerates, hardware resources, etc) automatically translates to higher quality, which is what the current labels tend to do. Traditionally lower-res broadcasters, such as those in the speedrunning and retro gaming communities, should find this change especially beneficial as they’ll be receiving three transcodes regardless of their resolution.
There is more information in the full post, but it looks like they're changing up a lot of stuff to improve the service in the future.
As to your issues, have you tried viewing the streams in a different browser? Flash fully updated? Could be something to do with the encodes perhaps.
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This new change is terrible, at least have a "very low" for people that can only watch 240p. There is no reason to get rid of it if providers still have such ridiculous throttling policies like mine.
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On August 29 2013 15:16 Xarell wrote: This new change is terrible, at least have a "very low" for people that can only watch 240p. There is no reason to get rid of it if providers still have such ridiculous throttling policies like mine. Low is 240p for sure. It is way worse than 360p was.
Edit: Just out of interest: Where in Germany is there a provider with bandwidth throttling?
Edit2: Seems they changed it back last night:
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51327 Posts
All Twitch did with the new coding is make it like YouTube, and also create the opportunity for streamers who have ridiculous connections (extreme i mean) to stream ABOVE 1080p, ala Swifty and his 4k resolution stream of HearthStone.
In all if your lagging on Twitch it most likely is your end. If it is not your end, try refreshing the page and that in a sense (what i was told) resets your server your connecting through and you might get a useful one. When Twitch is "overloaded" per se you are relocated to connect to a US server which is where the lag issues become apparent (from what i know)
The way it seems to work for me is when i start watching a streamer from under 1000 viewers when he is just starting i can watch in Source without a problem (no lag/stutter anything) however if i join when he is 1000 plus or even refresh the page Source becomes laggy and have issues and i have to switch to High. The main problem for this is it switches you to silly US servers and you have to constantly refresh and change around until you find the right one.
Also i believe Twitch are in the process of opening up more servers in Europe as they are aware of this issue (See the Twitter owner AMA on Reddit like 6 weeks ago)
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On August 29 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote: All Twitch did with the new coding is make it like YouTube, and also create the opportunity for streamers who have ridiculous connections (extreme i mean) to stream ABOVE 1080p, ala Swifty and his 4k resolution stream of HearthStone.
In all if your lagging on Twitch it most likely is your end. If it is not your end, try refreshing the page and that in a sense (what i was told) resets your server your connecting through and you might get a useful one. When Twitch is "overloaded" per se you are relocated to connect to a US server which is where the lag issues become apparent (from what i know)
The way it seems to work for me is when i start watching a streamer from under 1000 viewers when he is just starting i can watch in Source without a problem (no lag/stutter anything) however if i join when he is 1000 plus or even refresh the page Source becomes laggy and have issues and i have to switch to High. The main problem for this is it switches you to silly US servers and you have to constantly refresh and change around until you find the right one.
Also i believe Twitch are in the process of opening up more servers in Europe as they are aware of this issue (See the Twitter owner AMA on Reddit like 6 weeks ago)
How do you see the server your on ? Because sometimes twitch works really well at 1080+ and sometimes it stutters at 480, so i might have this issue as well.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51327 Posts
You can't see the server on, im guessing that when it is not lagging on max your on an European based server and if your lagging yet your other internet applications are not then it is probable your on a US server. This is what i have been told from many people from Twitch Admins to the AMA i was on about in the thread.
The ability to find our what server your connected to is beyond my knowledge but other people might be able to help us identify that.
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On August 29 2013 20:36 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote: All Twitch did with the new coding is make it like YouTube, and also create the opportunity for streamers who have ridiculous connections (extreme i mean) to stream ABOVE 1080p, ala Swifty and his 4k resolution stream of HearthStone.
In all if your lagging on Twitch it most likely is your end. If it is not your end, try refreshing the page and that in a sense (what i was told) resets your server your connecting through and you might get a useful one. When Twitch is "overloaded" per se you are relocated to connect to a US server which is where the lag issues become apparent (from what i know)
The way it seems to work for me is when i start watching a streamer from under 1000 viewers when he is just starting i can watch in Source without a problem (no lag/stutter anything) however if i join when he is 1000 plus or even refresh the page Source becomes laggy and have issues and i have to switch to High. The main problem for this is it switches you to silly US servers and you have to constantly refresh and change around until you find the right one.
Also i believe Twitch are in the process of opening up more servers in Europe as they are aware of this issue (See the Twitter owner AMA on Reddit like 6 weeks ago) How do you see the server your on ? Because sometimes twitch works really well at 1080+ and sometimes it stutters at 480, so i might have this issue as well. You can't see it directly. You can open up the Ressourcemonitor in Windows and then go to the Network-Tab and check out, which server uses the Flash Plugin.
In my case video6-2.fra01.justin.iv
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On August 29 2013 20:52 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 20:36 FFW_Rude wrote:On August 29 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote: All Twitch did with the new coding is make it like YouTube, and also create the opportunity for streamers who have ridiculous connections (extreme i mean) to stream ABOVE 1080p, ala Swifty and his 4k resolution stream of HearthStone.
In all if your lagging on Twitch it most likely is your end. If it is not your end, try refreshing the page and that in a sense (what i was told) resets your server your connecting through and you might get a useful one. When Twitch is "overloaded" per se you are relocated to connect to a US server which is where the lag issues become apparent (from what i know)
The way it seems to work for me is when i start watching a streamer from under 1000 viewers when he is just starting i can watch in Source without a problem (no lag/stutter anything) however if i join when he is 1000 plus or even refresh the page Source becomes laggy and have issues and i have to switch to High. The main problem for this is it switches you to silly US servers and you have to constantly refresh and change around until you find the right one.
Also i believe Twitch are in the process of opening up more servers in Europe as they are aware of this issue (See the Twitter owner AMA on Reddit like 6 weeks ago) How do you see the server your on ? Because sometimes twitch works really well at 1080+ and sometimes it stutters at 480, so i might have this issue as well. You can't see it directly. You can open up the Ressourcemonitor in Windows and then go to the Network-Tab and check out, which server uses the Flash Plugin. In my case video6-2.fra01.justin.iv
Did not know that. THANK YOU !
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As of right now morning (non-peak hours) its fine on medium. But i used to be fine with 720p in the mornings. I did speed test net, nothings change about my connection. Its gotta be something about the new coding or whaever they did, the quality is overall wors unless high or source (if source is 720p+). Maybe for those of you that have 23795620358762350788mbs of download speed it doesnt matter, but for the rest of us it does TT.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51327 Posts
You have to use Peak hours for America Peru as that is where the servers are based (the majority) they have a few in Europe and i don't think they have any anywhere else. With the new consoles coming out im sure they promised both Sony and Microsoft that there will be more servers being put up around europe and america. But as of right now your best bet is to refresh until you get the best you can. Being outside of US and Europe though i can see it being pretty bad as Twitch is just awful at the wrong times at the moment.
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I have this exact same problem. Can't watch on any setting without lag, when before this I could do 1080p just fine...
No idea the cause but I also notice it started with the new resolution tags.
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I've had video stuttering as well. Something has definitely gone awry.
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Not sure what twitch did but I just cannot watch any streams anymore. Changing quality surprisingly does nothing (stuttering occurs on both chrome and firefox). The vods work just fine and no lagg at all. It just stutters whenever I start watching. I know itmejp complained of lagg and when I tried today, same issue. Really hope whatever person spilled the coffee on their machines gets this sorted out.
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I'm having the same issue. Used to stream fine, suddenly I lag on every quality. Completely unwatchable. VODs steram fine at 1080p.
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I'm glad it's not just me. Same issue as the two above posters, and no idea what could be causing so suddenly.
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Same problem here, before I could easily watch 2 1080p streams at the same time, now I sometimes get videostutter watching one medium-stream ... very awkward ...
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