[Amazon]The Kindle & Fire OS thread etc. - Page 11
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
On October 13 2011 08:25 Arnstein wrote: Yes indeed. They definitely don't have that good support for other things. I once ordered a school book in the beginning of the semester and received it two weeks before my exam... I haven't had much issue with amazon. You have to double check on whether or not its "sold by amazon" or "fulfulled by amazon". If its through the merchant marketplace, then you have to deal with third parties, some of which may not be so reliable. I love amazon so much, I am contemplating amazon prime, since i can get it for 49 dollars, and free 2-day shipping is the most amazing thing ever. Likewise, with kindles being pretty cheap now, I may get one for my birthday. | ||
UnknownReclaimer
United States146 Posts
On October 11 2011 02:16 CubEdIn wrote: Unless you're looking for an e-reader and not a tablet. You're losing ALL the benefits of the regular kindle: - e-ink display (most important). The screen is not like a monitor, it looks closer to a book. Reading on LCD displays is more damaging to your eyes and a lot more annoying. - battery life. "Up to 8 hours of continuous reading." That's crap for an e-reader. With the normal you get a month of regular usage (~2-3 hours a day). That's like what, 10 times as much? - price. You have to pay 3x as much for a Fire. So yeah, might as well save up for an actual tablet that has 3G and all that, if you're not interested in the actual reader part. @Bosu: not flashing every page means that there can be artifacts left over on the display (like, parts of the old page still visible). I'm sure that they are not that annoying, otherwise they would make it flash more often, but I am guessing that's why people prefer the flashing? Also, if you crack it, you risk voiding the warranty, and if the ads are not intrusive at all, I don't see why you would want to do that. You get a $30 discount for getting the ads, why not be fair and keep them? :D There are obviously a few advantages to getting a regular Kindle. I won't argue with that, because it would just be silly. But it still has so many extra features that I find it to be a much better option. Granted the battery life is much shorter in comparison, but when is the last time that you read for over 8 hours straight? Or 5? It's not something that many people do lol. And you mentioned about that it's at 2-3 hours a day. You can still do that on the Fire. And have 5 hours leftover. In which you can browse the web or a bunch of other stuff. After which you can set it by the computer and plug it in for the night. Just like you would for your cellphone. Also, saying that Unless you're looking for an e-reader and not a tablet. is kind of missleading. It is still an e-reader. In fact it can read many more types of documents than a regular kindle.All I'm saying, is that there are many more features for the Fire. Considering that it only costs $200, I think it is an amazing deal, and something that many people should look into. | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On October 13 2011 15:25 UnknownReclaimer wrote: There are obviously a few advantages to getting a regular Kindle. I won't argue with that, because it would just be silly. But it still has so many extra features that I find it to be a much better option. Granted the battery life is much shorter in comparison, but when is the last time that you read for over 8 hours straight? Or 5? It's not something that many people do lol. And you mentioned about that it's at 2-3 hours a day. You can still do that on the Fire. And have 5 hours leftover. In which you can browse the web or a bunch of other stuff. After which you can set it by the computer and plug it in for the night. Just like you would for your cellphone. Also, saying that is kind of missleading. It is still an e-reader. In fact it can read many more types of documents than a regular kindle. All I'm saying, is that there are many more features for the Fire. Considering that it only costs $200, I think it is an amazing deal, and something that many people should look into. I absolutely love the Kindle Fire, but I disagree with lots of things you say here. Firstly, it's not an e-reader. E-readers are devices built with the express purpose of reading. Tablets are devices that can read, but have many other purposes. Every feature in the normal Kindle is designed to improve reading, while many of the features in the Fire actually detract from reading in order to allow you to do other things. As such, it's a tablet, not an e-reader. Secondly, the e-ink screen on a Kindle isn't a small advantage, it is a massive massive advantage. I've been reading books on LCD screens for years, but it doesn't compare with reading proper ink on paper. For one, research has shown that people read much more slowly on an LCD screen. For another, it's pretty bad for your eyes to read on an LCD screen. Most importantly though, it's just not nearly as comfortable to read on an LCD screen, which makes reading more of a chore than it has to be. Everybody I know that got a kindle increased their reading by at least 200%, because it's comfortable and convenient to read on. All those people could just as easily read on their laptops (which they often lie down and use in bed), but they don't even consider doing it, because it's just not as comfortable. Thirdly, I think most people that buy a Kindle for reading read more than 8 hours a day now and again. Maybe not every day, but over holidays, for example, I can read 80 hours a week comfortably. Yes you can charge it in between reading sessions, but the whole point of the Kindle is that it's like a book, so you don't have to worry about charging it. Also, remember you don't read every day so you might not use the Kindle for a week or two, before wanting to use it. With a normal Kindle, you know that you can always pick up the Kindle and read your book. With a Fire, you always have to consider if the Kindle will be charged when you want to read. Then there are lots of "smaller" things that still play a role. The Fire weighs considerably more than the Kindle. After using the Kindle 4, the Kindle 3 feels too heavy for me to read one-handed. I can't imagine that the Kindle Fire would be comfortable to read with in most normal reading positions. That doesn't mean you can't read with it, I used to read on a laptop quite regularly, but once again, it's less comfortable or convenient. The bezel is also bigger which will make turning pages impossible one-handed. Also the screen is reflective which will prevent any reading in sunlight (one of my favourite things to do during vacations), and also will reflect all fingerprints you get on it. As important as all these things though, is the fact that it costs $200. That's not much, but it's 2.5x as much as a Kindle. To put into context, you can get an iPad 2 or Galaxy Tab 10.1 for 2.5x the price of the Fire. The difference in price is very significant. All in all, if you want a device to read on, the normal Kindle costs you 2.5 times less than the Fire and offers a vastly superior reading experience. If you want to occasionally read, but also do things like play Angry Birds and watch TV shows, then the Fire is a great deal. However, don't get the Fire if your primary purpose is reading. It's just not designed for that. | ||
KDot2
United States1213 Posts
but just wondering ... does anyone know if I will be able to watch VoDs/events like MLG on the fire ? | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Before there was one, there were two. Rumor has it that even though Amazon is yet to begin shipping the much-anticipated Kindle Fire, the company already has China-headquartered Foxconn Electronics working on the second generation. According to the website Cult of Android, the Kindle Fire 2 is set to begin shipping in the first half of 2012. In a DigiTimes article, it's been reported that Foxconn “has secured orders from Amazon for assembling second-generation Kindle Fire tablet PCs.” Foxconn, however, declined to comment. Also worth taking note of is the fact that Foxconn is also the manufacturer of the Apple iPad 2 and the Sony Tablet S. According to DigiTimes’ sources, it is estimated that nearly 80% of all future table PC shipments will come from Foxconn. “Although we know very little about Amazon’s second tablet at this point,” writes Cult of Android contributor Killian Bell, “it is expected to be a huge improvement over its predecessor.” She continues with talk of “rumors” that suggest the Kindle Fire 2 will have a larger screen, faster process, cameras, as well as 3G connectivity. Source | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
This is going to be pretty helpful. I will be able to download all my books and the math textbooks I have to read all day. The shipping looks like it only going to be two days, even though it is across the country. I guess that is an advantage of my university being in a major city. I can't wait ^_^ | ||
7mk
Germany10156 Posts
We will probably never get to use a kindle fire :/ and for some reason not even the kindle touch is announced for europe afaik | ||
dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On October 13 2011 15:25 UnknownReclaimer wrote:Granted the battery life is much shorter in comparison, but when is the last time that you read for over 8 hours straight? Or 5? 4 times this week. I know I'm a little insane when it comes to getting stuck on books (I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT... THERE IS NO STOPPING), but it definitely makes the Kindle Fire a no-go for me. | ||
SpoR
United States1542 Posts
On May 30 2010 16:26 Comeh wrote: This. There is some aesthetic experience in reading actual books that is lost when transferred to the electronic screen. It's tough to explain my reasoning, but actual books are an experience in themselves, not JUST words written on a page. Also, you can just go to the library to get a book. You still have to pay for books with a Kindle. I'm curious, can you rent books on a kindle if your library supports it? Seems rather strange if you can't. You can rent DVDs for a fee etc. | ||
Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this? Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books. Guess what else it can do -_- User was warned for this post | ||
SpoR
United States1542 Posts
On October 26 2011 14:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So I just pre-ordered the Kindle Fire, and what's the first news I see? Source Standard, companies often already have the tech and design complete of the next years model when they ship the first one. Look at Apple for example. | ||
Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On October 26 2011 16:11 Capped wrote: What the fuck is the point in a machine, where you can only read books? And it costs THAT MUCH MONEY. Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this? Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books. Guess what else it can do -_- Clearly you aren't much of an avid reader. I usually read books in paper where I can, but with the kindle it's nice to know I'm not accidentally damaging a books spine as I go, amongst a few other convenience benefits. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On October 26 2011 16:11 Capped wrote: + Show Spoiler + What the fuck is the point in a machine, where you can only read books? And it costs THAT MUCH MONEY. Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this? Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books. Guess what else it can do -_- Judging by your chosen eloquence I assume you mean watch prodigious amounts of pornography and post on forums. Come on man, don't post for the sake of posting. If you have something to say then put some thought into writing it. It's basically flamebait to say that in a thread about e readers. | ||
Consolidate
United States829 Posts
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Proof.
535 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:30 Daigomi wrote: I absolutely love the Kindle Fire, but I disagree with lots of things you say here. Firstly, it's not an e-reader. E-readers are devices built with the express purpose of reading. Tablets are devices that can read, but have many other purposes. Every feature in the normal Kindle is designed to improve reading, while many of the features in the Fire actually detract from reading in order to allow you to do other things. As such, it's a tablet, not an e-reader. Secondly, the e-ink screen on a Kindle isn't a small advantage, it is a massive massive advantage. I've been reading books on LCD screens for years, but it doesn't compare with reading proper ink on paper. For one, research has shown that people read much more slowly on an LCD screen. For another, it's pretty bad for your eyes to read on an LCD screen. Most importantly though, it's just not nearly as comfortable to read on an LCD screen, which makes reading more of a chore than it has to be. Everybody I know that got a kindle increased their reading by at least 200%, because it's comfortable and convenient to read on. All those people could just as easily read on their laptops (which they often lie down and use in bed), but they don't even consider doing it, because it's just not as comfortable. Thirdly, I think most people that buy a Kindle for reading read more than 8 hours a day now and again. Maybe not every day, but over holidays, for example, I can read 80 hours a week comfortably. Yes you can charge it in between reading sessions, but the whole point of the Kindle is that it's like a book, so you don't have to worry about charging it. Also, remember you don't read every day so you might not use the Kindle for a week or two, before wanting to use it. With a normal Kindle, you know that you can always pick up the Kindle and read your book. With a Fire, you always have to consider if the Kindle will be charged when you want to read. Then there are lots of "smaller" things that still play a role. The Fire weighs considerably more than the Kindle. After using the Kindle 4, the Kindle 3 feels too heavy for me to read one-handed. I can't imagine that the Kindle Fire would be comfortable to read with in most normal reading positions. That doesn't mean you can't read with it, I used to read on a laptop quite regularly, but once again, it's less comfortable or convenient. The bezel is also bigger which will make turning pages impossible one-handed. Also the screen is reflective which will prevent any reading in sunlight (one of my favourite things to do during vacations), and also will reflect all fingerprints you get on it. As important as all these things though, is the fact that it costs $200. That's not much, but it's 2.5x as much as a Kindle. To put into context, you can get an iPad 2 or Galaxy Tab 10.1 for 2.5x the price of the Fire. The difference in price is very significant. All in all, if you want a device to read on, the normal Kindle costs you 2.5 times less than the Fire and offers a vastly superior reading experience. If you want to occasionally read, but also do things like play Angry Birds and watch TV shows, then the Fire is a great deal. However, don't get the Fire if your primary purpose is reading. It's just not designed for that. Agree with everything this guy said. When you look up the regular kindle on the amazon page, it doesn't just say Amazon Kindle. They stress the E-INK part right on the name cause it matters that much. Own a regular kindle with 3g myself and I have to say that over the summer I surprised even myself reading so much every day (instead of Starcrafting like I usually do) that I'd drain the battery on more than one occasion. Obviously I'm in school now and I don't have that free time, but yeah I mean if you love what you're reading what's to stop you reading for hours on end? I friggin LOVE the screen. Takes like 5 minutes getting used to pressing buttons to flip pages. I'd prefer it over any glossy screen. | ||
ragnasaur
United States804 Posts
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
Being in Australia, obviously, I couldn't get the Kindle Fire or Touch yet, and the Kindle 4 with no keyboard doesn't float my boat (and isn't out for another week anyway). My main question - what format can I convert my m4b audiobooks to, to allow the Kindle to play them? My fiancee has a bunch of audiobook files, and I want to play them on the Kindle on the drive to and from work. They have no DRM on them. I'd be using www.convertfiles.com, if that helps. I should add that while I could convert them to MP3, I was hoping to convert them to an actual audiobook format, as having one huge long mp3 doesn't appeal to me because it would make navigation very difficult within the book, and I've noticed sometimes (while listening to my 2hr+ podcasts in mp3 format) that it will just lose my place when I put it on standby, and fastforwarding to the middle of a 2hr mp3 30 seconds at a time is...taxing...on my patience. So I'd like a format that the Kindle will recognise as an actual ebook. | ||
Brotkrumen
Germany193 Posts
Let's say reading assignment is about 100 pages a week (20 pages per course per week). Here, the university printer costs 5cent a page, so thats 5€ a week. Let's say a semester has 14 weeks, so a semester is 70€, 140€ a year, just for printing stuff you will never touch again. 3 years for a bachelors would total 420€ or a masters of 5 years 700€. And this is before leisure reading, additional reading for papers and, if that floats your boat, downloading text books for free that would cost you 100€ a pop. | ||
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