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On October 26 2011 16:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 16:11 Capped wrote: What the fuck is the point in a machine, where you can only read books? And it costs THAT MUCH MONEY.
Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this?
Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books.
Guess what else it can do -_- Clearly you aren't much of an avid reader. I usually read books in paper where I can, but with the kindle it's nice to know I'm not accidentally damaging a books spine as I go, amongst a few other convenience benefits.
Actually i read quite a bit and i either use a book or just my laptop / PC as its the same thing - content wise.
In terms of actually enjoying it "more" or feeling more "comfy" with a book, yeah i do.
However using a kindle in favor of lets say, a tablet that can give you the exact same experience (Reading a book on it) is in my mind pretty downright stupid. I find it hard to fathom how people pay out serious bucks for something that has such a limited purpose, i assume you have to pay for the books on it, i havent done much research, even without having to pay for the books (assuming you can take any and all books you want) it would take a serious amount of reading to cover the price of it, as opposed to buying the book itself. Even then the added benefit of having the book outweighs it for me.
Also im well aware the kindle offers added "comfort" (?) in favor of books or tablets in different forms. (Kindle vs tablet, nicer reading screen although i cant fathom wtf that is. kindle vs books, less weight, easier to carry, less damage etc.) probably more and im sure you will all explain this to me.. I just dont see it as "comfort", either use a good old fashioned book, or use a tablet / laptop / pc to read, dont buy a stupid contraption designed for purely reading, its shooting yourself in the foot. I cant even think of a useful anagram of buying something that should be multipurpose but isnt and only applicable to one.
On October 26 2011 16:24 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 16:11 Capped wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What the fuck is the point in a machine, where you can only read books? And it costs THAT MUCH MONEY.
Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this?
Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books.
Guess what else it can do -_- Judging by your chosen eloquence I assume you mean watch prodigious amounts of pornography and post on forums. Come on man, don't post for the sake of posting. If you have something to say then put some thought into writing it. It's basically flamebait to say that in a thread about e readers.
Fair enough, i guess i deserved it along with the warning i got ^_^. Refer to paragraph above post. ty.
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Get F.lux and set it so be night time settings all the time! Personally I read to get away from screens and just chill for a bit.
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On October 26 2011 18:08 Lorken wrote: Get F.lux and set it so be night time settings all the time! Personally I read to get away from screens and just chill for a bit.
then a kindle will suit you perfectly. you completely forget you are reading a screen.
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On October 26 2011 17:52 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 16:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On October 26 2011 16:11 Capped wrote: What the fuck is the point in a machine, where you can only read books? And it costs THAT MUCH MONEY.
Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this?
Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books.
Guess what else it can do -_- Clearly you aren't much of an avid reader. I usually read books in paper where I can, but with the kindle it's nice to know I'm not accidentally damaging a books spine as I go, amongst a few other convenience benefits. Actually i read quite a bit and i either use a book or just my laptop / PC as its the same thing - content wise. In terms of actually enjoying it "more" or feeling more "comfy" with a book, yeah i do. However using a kindle in favor of lets say, a tablet that can give you the exact same experience (Reading a book on it) is in my mind pretty downright stupid. I find it hard to fathom how people pay out serious bucks for something that has such a limited purpose, i assume you have to pay for the books on it, i havent done much research, even without having to pay for the books (assuming you can take any and all books you want) it would take a serious amount of reading to cover the price of it, as opposed to buying the book itself. Even then the added benefit of having the book outweighs it for me. Also im well aware the kindle offers added "comfort" (?) in favor of books or tablets in different forms. (Kindle vs tablet, nicer reading screen although i cant fathom wtf that is. kindle vs books, less weight, easier to carry, less damage etc.) probably more and im sure you will all explain this to me.. I just dont see it as "comfort", either use a good old fashioned book, or use a tablet / laptop / pc to read, dont buy a stupid contraption designed for purely reading, its shooting yourself in the foot. I cant even think of a useful anagram of buying something that should be multipurpose but isnt and only applicable to one. Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 16:24 Probe1 wrote:On October 26 2011 16:11 Capped wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What the fuck is the point in a machine, where you can only read books? And it costs THAT MUCH MONEY.
Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this?
Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books.
Guess what else it can do -_- Judging by your chosen eloquence I assume you mean watch prodigious amounts of pornography and post on forums. Come on man, don't post for the sake of posting. If you have something to say then put some thought into writing it. It's basically flamebait to say that in a thread about e readers. Fair enough, i guess i deserved it along with the warning i got ^_^. Refer to paragraph above post. ty. Try a Kindle in real life before dismissing the screen as "no big deal".
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I have my Kindle now, and I absolutely love it! I preordered the new Haruki Murakami book, and when I woke up yesterday I suddenly had it on my Kindle! Absolutely love it :D
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I have a Kindle, it's very convenient, but I'm not very fond of the screen, still too glossy to me >.< If you have light just behind you, it reflects quite a lot.
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On October 26 2011 20:19 mr_tolkien wrote: I have a Kindle, it's very convenient, but I'm not very fond of the screen, still too glossy to me >.< If you have light just behind you, it reflects quite a lot.
I don't find that i have this problem moreso than I do with a book. Its a little more reflective, but you can usually just move it slightly so that it catches diffuse light. It has to be a really focused light source to actually obscure the words.
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Only reason I haven't gotten one yet is because I love the feel of turning the pages and holding a huge book. Points for doing it in front of a fireplace.
I did hold one and read a few pages at a local store though... The kindle is pretty good. Just not for me.
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On October 26 2011 20:57 PolSC2 wrote:Only reason I haven't gotten one yet is because I love the feel of turning the pages and holding a huge book. Points for doing it in front of a fireplace. I did hold one and read a few pages at a local store though... The kindle is pretty good. Just not for me.
See I kind of agree with you.
The Kindle never replaces the feel of a book.
But for me, not every book is an amazing classic that I just want to feel the pages turn beneath me. I'm never going to read Lord of the Rings on it, because I love the real version of that I have, it feels so much more magical.
but for the latest Star Wars Extended Universe book, that I'd buy from the bookstore as a paperback - the Kindle is a lot more practical.
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On October 26 2011 21:13 Dhalphir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 20:57 PolSC2 wrote:Only reason I haven't gotten one yet is because I love the feel of turning the pages and holding a huge book. Points for doing it in front of a fireplace. I did hold one and read a few pages at a local store though... The kindle is pretty good. Just not for me. See I kind of agree with you. The Kindle never replaces the feel of a book. But for me, not every book is an amazing classic that I just want to feel the pages turn beneath me. I'm never going to read Lord of the Rings on it, because I love the real version of that I have, it feels so much more magical. but for the latest Star Wars Extended Universe book, that I'd buy from the bookstore as a paperback - the Kindle is a lot more practical.
This is how I feel as well.
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On October 09 2011 23:22 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 23:09 Gnosis wrote: I would use one, if I had actual control over my books. As the kindle has severe DRM (e.g. locking me out of books because of highlighting), and Amazon has actual control over my library... I'll stick with paper until things improve. Stripping drm from books is very easy, so is converting between formats. But you're right the biggest flaw in kindles is the excessive drm and refusal to support open source formats. It's really shameful. I couldn't buy my father one for his birthday because of this, I got him a Kobo touch instead and it's actually much nicer than my kindle in several ways, but most importantly works with library software, takes all formats, etc.
That's the thing though, even if it's easy I don't want to strip DRM. Actually it's not stripping DRM that's the issue for me, it's the principle: why am I supporting a product I ultimately have to circumvent, at least in part?
My wife wants an e-reader of some sort, you recommend the Kobo?
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Lol no
User was warned for this post
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Damn lol the 1st couple posts are just haters!
If you like to read and you want th kindle.. then buy it It seems pretty cool.
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On October 26 2011 18:08 Lorken wrote: Get F.lux and set it so be night time settings all the time! Personally I read to get away from screens and just chill for a bit.
I am going to have to second this. I first heard about F.lux in one of the threads concerning the Gunnar gaming glasses. I was contemplating buying them as I bought a new LED monitor and was having trouble playing games for any length of time. I decided it was because the monitor was much brighter than my old and fatiguing my eyes. Since F.lux was free, I tried it. At first the yellowish hue at night bothered me a bit, now I don't even notice it. If I turn it off my eyes instantly hurt, so that little program is a huge benefit to me.
I do have fairly sensitive eyes to artificial light so everyone elses results may vary.
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On October 27 2011 01:48 Dekoth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 18:08 Lorken wrote: Get F.lux and set it so be night time settings all the time! Personally I read to get away from screens and just chill for a bit. I am going to have to second this. I first heard about F.lux in one of the threads concerning the Gunnar gaming glasses. I was contemplating buying them as I bought a new LED monitor and was having trouble playing games for any length of time. I decided it was because the monitor was much brighter than my old and fatiguing my eyes. Since F.lux was free, I tried it. At first the yellowish hue at night bothered me a bit, now I don't even notice it. If I turn it off my eyes instantly hurt, so that little program is a huge benefit to me. I do have fairly sensitive eyes to artificial light so everyone elses results may vary. It might just be a bad habit from being so used to it but my eyes hurt when I turn it off too
On topic: there's no such thing like an E-book library or something right? 90% of what I read I get from the library unless it's a really new book or something I really like and want for myself. I don't like the idea of having to pay too enjoy a good book (especially when it's not in book form).
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On October 27 2011 13:01 Lorken wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 01:48 Dekoth wrote:On October 26 2011 18:08 Lorken wrote: Get F.lux and set it so be night time settings all the time! Personally I read to get away from screens and just chill for a bit. I am going to have to second this. I first heard about F.lux in one of the threads concerning the Gunnar gaming glasses. I was contemplating buying them as I bought a new LED monitor and was having trouble playing games for any length of time. I decided it was because the monitor was much brighter than my old and fatiguing my eyes. Since F.lux was free, I tried it. At first the yellowish hue at night bothered me a bit, now I don't even notice it. If I turn it off my eyes instantly hurt, so that little program is a huge benefit to me. I do have fairly sensitive eyes to artificial light so everyone elses results may vary. It might just be a bad habit from being so used to it but my eyes hurt when I turn it off too On topic: there's no such thing like an E-book library or something right? 90% of what I read I get from the library unless it's a really new book or something I really like and want for myself. I don't like the idea of having to pay too enjoy a good book (especially when it's not in book form).
Actually, some of the libraries I go to have an e-book selection
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On October 26 2011 16:10 SpoR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 16:26 Comeh wrote:On May 30 2010 16:16 BroOd wrote: e-readers are fine for magazines and newspapers, but I don't like the for books at all. This. There is some aesthetic experience in reading actual books that is lost when transferred to the electronic screen. It's tough to explain my reasoning, but actual books are an experience in themselves, not JUST words written on a page. Also, you can just go to the library to get a book. You still have to pay for books with a Kindle. I'm curious, can you rent books on a kindle if your library supports it? Seems rather strange if you can't. You can rent DVDs for a fee etc.
There is something called overdrive I think it is some libraries have for lending e-books, also you have to pay a fee to borrow DVDs from the library? (bah you probably just mean renting in general)
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On October 26 2011 17:52 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 16:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On October 26 2011 16:11 Capped wrote: What the fuck is the point in a machine, where you can only read books? And it costs THAT MUCH MONEY.
Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this?
Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books.
Guess what else it can do -_- Clearly you aren't much of an avid reader. I usually read books in paper where I can, but with the kindle it's nice to know I'm not accidentally damaging a books spine as I go, amongst a few other convenience benefits. Actually i read quite a bit and i either use a book or just my laptop / PC as its the same thing - content wise. In terms of actually enjoying it "more" or feeling more "comfy" with a book, yeah i do. However using a kindle in favor of lets say, a tablet that can give you the exact same experience (Reading a book on it) is in my mind pretty downright stupid. I find it hard to fathom how people pay out serious bucks for something that has such a limited purpose, i assume you have to pay for the books on it, i havent done much research, even without having to pay for the books (assuming you can take any and all books you want) it would take a serious amount of reading to cover the price of it, as opposed to buying the book itself. Even then the added benefit of having the book outweighs it for me. Also im well aware the kindle offers added "comfort" (?) in favor of books or tablets in different forms. (Kindle vs tablet, nicer reading screen although i cant fathom wtf that is. kindle vs books, less weight, easier to carry, less damage etc.) probably more and im sure you will all explain this to me.. I just dont see it as "comfort", either use a good old fashioned book, or use a tablet / laptop / pc to read, dont buy a stupid contraption designed for purely reading, its shooting yourself in the foot. I cant even think of a useful anagram of buying something that should be multipurpose but isnt and only applicable to one. Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 16:24 Probe1 wrote:On October 26 2011 16:11 Capped wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What the fuck is the point in a machine, where you can only read books? And it costs THAT MUCH MONEY.
Like omgwtf retarded to buy something like this?
Guess what guys, my computer lets me read books.
Guess what else it can do -_- Judging by your chosen eloquence I assume you mean watch prodigious amounts of pornography and post on forums. Come on man, don't post for the sake of posting. If you have something to say then put some thought into writing it. It's basically flamebait to say that in a thread about e readers. Fair enough, i guess i deserved it along with the warning i got ^_^. Refer to paragraph above post. ty. laptops and tablets are more expensive though, and for long periods of reading time I'd rather stare at e-ink than an LCD screen, it causes less eyestrain.
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I love my kindle, I download so many books online and saves me a lot of money.although theres a lot of nostalgia with real books, its reallly convenient for me as a guy that sometimes finishes 10 books a month to carry them with me. Not to mention several of my heavy textbooks for my university classes.
Calibre is an awesome app that lets me dl any format, pdf mobi doc jpgs epub then convert and email wirelessly to my kindle. I dont charge it for several weeks sometimes no problem its convenientfor someone who forgets to charge his phone.
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On October 27 2011 14:08 evantrees wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 16:10 SpoR wrote:On May 30 2010 16:26 Comeh wrote:On May 30 2010 16:16 BroOd wrote: e-readers are fine for magazines and newspapers, but I don't like the for books at all. This. There is some aesthetic experience in reading actual books that is lost when transferred to the electronic screen. It's tough to explain my reasoning, but actual books are an experience in themselves, not JUST words written on a page. Also, you can just go to the library to get a book. You still have to pay for books with a Kindle. I'm curious, can you rent books on a kindle if your library supports it? Seems rather strange if you can't. You can rent DVDs for a fee etc. There is something called overdrive I think it is some libraries have for lending e-books, also you have to pay a fee to borrow DVDs from the library? (bah you probably just mean renting in general) well both, yea my main city library has DVDs, CDs, even older forms of electronic media for rental for small fees.
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