MLG Arena and the TL Calendar - Page 11
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
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SirRobin
United States269 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:17 Golgotha wrote: hmm this really hurts mlg. and imo TL should just let winter arena be on the schedule because if MLG fails, it will hurt the whole scene. however, i do understand that rules are rules. If MLG fails because TL didn`t put their event on the calendar it is totally on MLG. Not that I think this will happen at all though, as I think MLG will meet their numbers when it is all said and done. | ||
EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Introvert
United States4435 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
On February 23 2012 15:00 Introvert wrote: If you are going to spend $20 to watch a tournament, then you aren't going to "forget" if you don't see it on TL. Understandable decision, but people need to realize this isn't going to have that much of an effect. perfectly said | ||
Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On February 23 2012 15:00 Introvert wrote: If you are going to spend $20 to watch a tournament, then you aren't going to "forget" if you don't see it on TL. Understandable decision, but people need to realize this isn't going to have that much of an effect. There will definitely be a number of people who would click on the side stream to watch MLG without knowing it's PPV or they forgot the date or something and they'd buy it on the spot to watch. Not sure how large that number would be, but I assume it's enough for me to disagree with your statement. | ||
bLuR
Canada625 Posts
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HCastorp
United States388 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:51 Rabbet wrote: I think my cable provider gets a cut of all the PPV action that goes through their service, they wouldn't list it otherwise. I'll admit I was thinking of a paper TV quide. What you're describing sounds something like the referral arrangement that TL (and EG, IIRC) turned down. But without knowing the details of that arrangement, it is hard to say. | ||
Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
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pullarius1
United States522 Posts
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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Derity
Germany2951 Posts
I still don't like the model of GOM, since they are using a software model which is not free, but should (not their codec, a they paying royalties?) TL is somehow an advertising hub, so take your share... | ||
eXNewB
Canada291 Posts
Makes me realize how much I <33333333 TL ^_^; | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
On February 23 2012 14:50 Xyl wrote: So much unnecessary drama! Between GSL 2012 Season 1 Solo and Team matches, MLG 2012 Season 1 matches, MLG Winter Arena matches, GSL's King of Kongs Tournament and December's AOL, I have watched so much Starcraft 2 these past 3 months and still have 1.5 months before both organizations have their 2012 season 2 events. With way more than enough games from only 2 organizations, I can go to the source to watch the events and don't require some calendar for easier access. I feel it's comparable to folks who pirate movies - they want to watch as many movies as possible but don't want to pay for it and find a way to complain that each release in theaters or DVD/Bluray is too expensive. Meanwhile, those of us who care about quality chose what we watch and support our hobbies/passions with our income. We also understand that there's insufficient time to enjoy all the high quality releases even if we could afford 'em. To summarize: MLG will do just fine, Hot Bid. The publicity of the main events will pull in new players much like it always has. And just like any PPV event, the hardcore/interested fans will support them and get an extra dose of awesome matches. An aside: GOM's 2012 pricing (where even a Premium+ yearly ticket doesn't get you ever 2012 show) should be evidence that this tournament broadcasting is a business, and the best tournament organizers have to find more effective ways to monetize the business. MLG's pricing for 2012 ($20 PPV season tickets x 4 + $20 Gold membership = $100) is still much cheaper than GOM's. So I did some computations to see if this is true. According to my math: GSL will have ~3,350 games this year (counted number of sets per season, multipled by 3 games for simplicity which I will hold consistent for MLG as well, and 5 seasons). A yearly monthly ticket for GSL/GSTL will cost $239.88. That's ~14 games per dollar, without including Off the Record, AoL, and other special tournaments which are included in Monthly Premium +. MLG Arenas will have ~732 games (61 sets per tournament, 3 games per set like above, 4 seasons). The ticket for the whole year is $100 as you said. So that's 7.32 games per $1. Based on number of games, GSL has almost twice as many games per dollar (without counting special events) than MLG. Was bored at work so I was just curious about it :p | ||
tdt
United States3179 Posts
On February 23 2012 15:15 lichter wrote: So I did some computations to see if this is true. According to my math: GSL will have ~3,350 games this year (counted number of sets per season, multipled by 3 games for simplicity which I will hold consistent for MLG as well, and 5 seasons). A yearly monthly ticket for GSL/GSTL will cost $239.88. That's ~14 games per dollar, without including Off the Record, AoL, and other special tournaments which are included in Monthly Premium +. MLG Arenas will have ~732 games (61 sets per tournament, 3 games per set like above, 4 seasons). The ticket for the whole year is $100 as you said. So that's 7.32 games per $1. Based on number of games, GSL has almost twice as many games per dollar (without counting special events) than MLG. Was bored at work so I was just curious about it :p Plus 3/4 of MLG is adults beating on children with Koreans in da house. Who likes child abuse? Who's pay for it? | ||
hatespam
Romania161 Posts
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Kerwin
United States220 Posts
Edit: I was too slow on post... I was talking to the person who was bored at work calculating MLG v GOM costs | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
On February 23 2012 15:21 Kerwin wrote: Don't see why this should be an issue... I pay for GSL and because I pay for GSL I know when their events are... If you're spending money and don't know when the events are then I'm really confused. Not listing it on the calendar will only prevent people from being disappointed to see it on there and then get redirected to MLG's terribly-constructed website and then realize they need to pay money. It should be obvious why TL requires a stream to be available to list a tourney in the calendar... who cares about the tourney if no one can watch it? Also, do my above poster... keep in mind that GOM offers almost everything for free. GSL is simply the best. Edit: I was too slow on post... I was talking to the person who was bored at work calculating MLG v GOM costs Yup I know GSL offers it for free that's why I loves them, just wanted to compute costs (pointless to compute 0 vs $20 right? :p ) If you get the chance to visit you'll love them even more (best SC2 related day of my life) | ||
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