Actually it's just for gamesource where it makes a big difference...
I still get way worse performance without aero even when minimized (and scaleport 10%), with the x-split screen capture method and also with various directshow filters.
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Actually it's just for gamesource where it makes a big difference... I still get way worse performance without aero even when minimized (and scaleport 10%), with the x-split screen capture method and also with various directshow filters. | ||
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On April 18 2012 22:03 [F_]aths wrote: Is there an option to downscale with either method (Xsplit or DXTory) with actually downsample the picture instead of just removing pixels? Xsplit offers an optimization for text but this only works well for exact factor 2 downscaling. If I want to scale down by lets say factor 3, I still get very much aliasing due to the pixel discarding instead of proper downsampling. DXTory and XSplit both downsize via resampling. Nearest neighbor would look way worse than it actually does. On April 18 2012 22:28 Valeranth wrote: Will you ever test other methods such as using Adobe's Flash Media Encoder? No since xsplit's x264 encoder is far superior in every way. | ||
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What is the "synchronous surface lock" you speak of in the OP by the way? edit: nvm, found it | ||
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[F_]aths
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On April 18 2012 23:29 R1CH wrote: It does look bad. The "Optimize text resize" option only seems to use bilinear downsampling for optimized resizing, but this only works when the factor to scale down is 2.0 at max, otherwise again pixels are lost without being weighted into downsampled pixels.Show nested quote + On April 18 2012 22:03 [F_]aths wrote: Is there an option to downscale with either method (Xsplit or DXTory) with actually downsample the picture instead of just removing pixels? Xsplit offers an optimization for text but this only works well for exact factor 2 downscaling. If I want to scale down by lets say factor 3, I still get very much aliasing due to the pixel discarding instead of proper downsampling. DXTory and XSplit both downsize via resampling. Nearest neighbor would look way worse than it actually does. Same for DXTory: If I scale down 1920x1080 to 640x480 (factor 3.0) pixels are lost. | ||
storkfan
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On April 18 2012 23:29 R1CH wrote: i get better performance with VP6 codec on FMLE than xsplit lowest quality encoder. Just saying.Show nested quote + On April 18 2012 22:03 [F_]aths wrote: Is there an option to downscale with either method (Xsplit or DXTory) with actually downsample the picture instead of just removing pixels? Xsplit offers an optimization for text but this only works well for exact factor 2 downscaling. If I want to scale down by lets say factor 3, I still get very much aliasing due to the pixel discarding instead of proper downsampling. DXTory and XSplit both downsize via resampling. Nearest neighbor would look way worse than it actually does. Show nested quote + On April 18 2012 22:28 Valeranth wrote: Will you ever test other methods such as using Adobe's Flash Media Encoder? No since xsplit's x264 encoder is far superior in every way. | ||
R1CH
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On April 19 2012 02:20 storkfan wrote: Show nested quote + i get better performance with VP6 codec on FMLE than xsplit lowest quality encoder. Just saying.On April 18 2012 23:29 R1CH wrote: On April 18 2012 22:03 [F_]aths wrote: Is there an option to downscale with either method (Xsplit or DXTory) with actually downsample the picture instead of just removing pixels? Xsplit offers an optimization for text but this only works well for exact factor 2 downscaling. If I want to scale down by lets say factor 3, I still get very much aliasing due to the pixel discarding instead of proper downsampling. DXTory and XSplit both downsize via resampling. Nearest neighbor would look way worse than it actually does. On April 18 2012 22:28 Valeranth wrote: Will you ever test other methods such as using Adobe's Flash Media Encoder? No since xsplit's x264 encoder is far superior in every way. Well VP6 looks like ass compared to x264, so it's not surprising that it would be faster. | ||
R1CH
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On April 19 2012 01:53 [F_]aths wrote: Show nested quote + It does look bad. The "Optimize text resize" option only seems to use bilinear downsampling for optimized resizing, but this only works when the factor to scale down is 2.0 at max, otherwise again pixels are lost without being weighted into downsampled pixels.On April 18 2012 23:29 R1CH wrote: On April 18 2012 22:03 [F_]aths wrote: Is there an option to downscale with either method (Xsplit or DXTory) with actually downsample the picture instead of just removing pixels? Xsplit offers an optimization for text but this only works well for exact factor 2 downscaling. If I want to scale down by lets say factor 3, I still get very much aliasing due to the pixel discarding instead of proper downsampling. DXTory and XSplit both downsize via resampling. Nearest neighbor would look way worse than it actually does. Same for DXTory: If I scale down 1920x1080 to 640x480 (factor 3.0) pixels are lost. The scaling done when you add sources that aren't 1:1 to xsplit is pretty bad and you have no control over it. There's two solutions, either scale on the capture side so your sources are 1:1 in xsplit (dxtory scaling I believe is bicubic) or run your xsplit scene at 1920x1080 or whatever size your source is, then use one of the resize options on the channel page. | ||
[F_]aths
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My issue is low upstream bandwidth (currently I use 440 kBit for video) so I would like to test 640x360 instead of streaming in 960x540. I did not find any resampling options in DXTory, I can just set a new size as percentage or in pixels. | ||
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XSplit -> 140-160 fps Dxtory -> 60-90fps Thats a huge difference. Havent changed any option in dxtory except turned off recording to a file, set fps to 30 (same as xsplit) and recording in 720 (same as xsplit). | ||
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