No excuses, play hard or the hype dies.
I hope he does well, him and nani being Code S mainstays would be great for viewers.
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
No excuses, play hard or the hype dies. I hope he does well, him and nani being Code S mainstays would be great for viewers. | ||
TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Balgrog
United States1221 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On April 26 2012 03:54 TBone- wrote: No its cool, you can totally bypass the code a qualifiers, code a, and the bridge between code a and code s. Totally not degrading to the name of code s and is fair to all the players trying to get into the gsl. MMA, Polt, DRG and MC have all gotten free passes to Code S and they're all champions. Free seeds aren't the most amazing thing on the planet, but Stephano is a deserving choice. He's had international success and will bring in lots of viewers. It's really the best of both worlds. | ||
Jongl0
631 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:02 Fionn wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 03:54 TBone- wrote: No its cool, you can totally bypass the code a qualifiers, code a, and the bridge between code a and code s. Totally not degrading to the name of code s and is fair to all the players trying to get into the gsl. MMA, Polt, DRG and MC have all gotten free passes to Code S and they're all champions. Free seeds aren't the most amazing thing on the planet, but Stephano is a deserving choice. He's had international success and will bring in lots of viewers. It's really the best of both worlds. Oh Stephano is definitely deserving of a seed. It just enhances the story if someone works there way up instead of just taking a short cut. It would just mean so much more if he won code s by going through the traditional path. | ||
Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On April 26 2012 03:45 opisska wrote: Guys, I have a question. Liquipedia states that for code S "Ro32" finish you get $1,335 in earnings. But Ro32 is just "was in code S and lost". Does anyone know if it applies also to seeded players? That would be quite interesting financially The earning curve in code S is overall very strange - it starts quite high, but rises very slowly and then it explodes at the very top. So you get quite a nice money for just being there, but not much from getting to Ro16 for example. I would imagine it does. Besides the fact they were seeded into the tournament, there is nothing different about them as a competitor once they're in. In fact, you could say that the top 8 from the previous season were also seeded in, and you can bet your ass they get paid. It doesn't matter how you get into the tournament. Once you do, you're entitled to whatever you win while competing. Also, that's pretty much my opinion on the seed. I watch GSL because it's the tournament with the best players in the world. Ideally speaking, it's the top 32 players in the world. IMO, Stephano is in the top 32, so he should be there. I don't really care how players get there. If all these people stuck in Code A/B were as great as people seem to think, then they would have gotten there by now. I can appreciate that there's a lot of variance in Code B, but if you're Code S level, then you shouldn't have repeated problems trying to qualify (which most of these players who are stuck there for seasons on end apparently have). | ||
templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:09 Azarkon wrote: Who's Stephano going to live and prepare with when he goes? AFAIK Millennium doesn't have a team house there. I'm sure he has something lined up. Iirc, he stayed with oGs the last time, so they're a decent first guess. Considering how little trouble players actually seem to have finding a team house that will let them stay, I'm sure he has/will find someone willing to lodge him. | ||
Otolia
France5805 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:09 Azarkon wrote: Who's Stephano going to live and prepare with when he goes? AFAIK Millennium doesn't have a team house there. In a house willing to host him. Millenium seems to have good contact with TSL so maybe there or in the GOM house with the other foreigners or in oGs like last time. | ||
zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:14 templar rage wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 03:45 opisska wrote: Guys, I have a question. Liquipedia states that for code S "Ro32" finish you get $1,335 in earnings. But Ro32 is just "was in code S and lost". Does anyone know if it applies also to seeded players? That would be quite interesting financially The earning curve in code S is overall very strange - it starts quite high, but rises very slowly and then it explodes at the very top. So you get quite a nice money for just being there, but not much from getting to Ro16 for example. I would imagine it does. Besides the fact they were seeded into the tournament, there is nothing different about them as a competitor once they're in. In fact, you could say that the top 8 from the previous season were also seeded in, and you can bet your ass they get paid. It doesn't matter how you get into the tournament. Once you do, you're entitled to whatever you win while competing. Also, that's pretty much my opinion on the seed. I watch GSL because it's the tournament with the best players in the world. Ideally speaking, it's the top 32 players in the world. IMO, Stephano is in the top 32, so he should be there. I don't really care how players get there. If all these people stuck in Code A/B were as great as people seem to think, then they would have gotten there by now. I can appreciate that there's a lot of variance in Code B, but if you're Code S level, then you shouldn't have repeated problems trying to qualify (which most of these players who are stuck there for seasons on end apparently have). .. you have no idea what you are talking about. Stephano has lost to code B players many times in the past. Polt was a code B player, and might be again very soon. I wouldn't place Stephano in the top 32 in the world, even if he is the best foreigner. | ||
Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:17 zefreak wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 04:14 templar rage wrote: On April 26 2012 03:45 opisska wrote: Guys, I have a question. Liquipedia states that for code S "Ro32" finish you get $1,335 in earnings. But Ro32 is just "was in code S and lost". Does anyone know if it applies also to seeded players? That would be quite interesting financially The earning curve in code S is overall very strange - it starts quite high, but rises very slowly and then it explodes at the very top. So you get quite a nice money for just being there, but not much from getting to Ro16 for example. I would imagine it does. Besides the fact they were seeded into the tournament, there is nothing different about them as a competitor once they're in. In fact, you could say that the top 8 from the previous season were also seeded in, and you can bet your ass they get paid. It doesn't matter how you get into the tournament. Once you do, you're entitled to whatever you win while competing. Also, that's pretty much my opinion on the seed. I watch GSL because it's the tournament with the best players in the world. Ideally speaking, it's the top 32 players in the world. IMO, Stephano is in the top 32, so he should be there. I don't really care how players get there. If all these people stuck in Code A/B were as great as people seem to think, then they would have gotten there by now. I can appreciate that there's a lot of variance in Code B, but if you're Code S level, then you shouldn't have repeated problems trying to qualify (which most of these players who are stuck there for seasons on end apparently have). .. you have no idea what you are talking about. Stephano has lost to code B players many times in the past. Polt was a code B player, and might be again very soon. I wouldn't place Stephano in the top 32 in the world, even if he is the best foreigner. Stephano is a top 5 Zerg, behind Nestea and DRG, but that's about it. | ||
templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:17 zefreak wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 04:14 templar rage wrote: On April 26 2012 03:45 opisska wrote: Guys, I have a question. Liquipedia states that for code S "Ro32" finish you get $1,335 in earnings. But Ro32 is just "was in code S and lost". Does anyone know if it applies also to seeded players? That would be quite interesting financially The earning curve in code S is overall very strange - it starts quite high, but rises very slowly and then it explodes at the very top. So you get quite a nice money for just being there, but not much from getting to Ro16 for example. I would imagine it does. Besides the fact they were seeded into the tournament, there is nothing different about them as a competitor once they're in. In fact, you could say that the top 8 from the previous season were also seeded in, and you can bet your ass they get paid. It doesn't matter how you get into the tournament. Once you do, you're entitled to whatever you win while competing. Also, that's pretty much my opinion on the seed. I watch GSL because it's the tournament with the best players in the world. Ideally speaking, it's the top 32 players in the world. IMO, Stephano is in the top 32, so he should be there. I don't really care how players get there. If all these people stuck in Code A/B were as great as people seem to think, then they would have gotten there by now. I can appreciate that there's a lot of variance in Code B, but if you're Code S level, then you shouldn't have repeated problems trying to qualify (which most of these players who are stuck there for seasons on end apparently have). .. you have no idea what you are talking about. Stephano has lost to code B players many times in the past. Polt was a code B player, and might be again very soon. I wouldn't place Stephano in the top 32 in the world, even if he is the best foreigner. And you think all the current Code S players haven't? | ||
SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:07 TBone- wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 04:02 Fionn wrote: On April 26 2012 03:54 TBone- wrote: No its cool, you can totally bypass the code a qualifiers, code a, and the bridge between code a and code s. Totally not degrading to the name of code s and is fair to all the players trying to get into the gsl. MMA, Polt, DRG and MC have all gotten free passes to Code S and they're all champions. Free seeds aren't the most amazing thing on the planet, but Stephano is a deserving choice. He's had international success and will bring in lots of viewers. It's really the best of both worlds. Oh Stephano is definitely deserving of a seed. It just enhances the story if someone works there way up instead of just taking a short cut. It would just mean so much more if he won code s by going through the traditional path. Interesting question: if, hypothetically, a seeded player won on their first entry to Code S, would that count as a Royal Road or do you have to work your way through Code A first? Does it count as a Royal Road if the GSL you win is your first Code S, but you have been in Code A before (eg Hero could potentially do this)? | ||
cmen15
United States1519 Posts
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Benjamin99
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1sz2sz3sz
Andorra173 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:18 Eee wrote: Thing is, if he manages to stay in Code S for next season he'll probably forfeit his spot since he gets homesick so easily. T_T this probably. if youre going to accept code s and manage to stay there dont leave a month later like sheth did in code a after knocking out san. | ||
danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On April 26 2012 03:13 DarkLordOlli wrote: He deserves a seed but I don't think he has a serious chance of winning Code S. Everybody in the current Ro8 could beat him imo. Everybody in the ro8 could beat everyone else in the ro8. No one is unbeatable. Just look at how long Jaedong and Flash have had 3 OSL golds. No one would have guessed that neither one of them would have a 4th by now. It's just too bad I'm about to spoil it for everyone and reveal that JD is a few weeks out from doing just that | ||
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