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You just cant compare them imo
Naniwa is a working hose.. who plays 60 games a day for a couple of months .. playing GSL comes in very handy and applies to his strenght (he can prepare for a single opponent/can prepare special builds)
Stephano on the other hand doesnt play/practise at all for a couple of weeks and still does well against serveral different good/decent/code S leve opponents .. adjusts against all kind of things after just one game (remember the MC series where he faced so kind of early warpgate pressure, first time his lost closely.. the second time he hold it off)
to my initial point.. naniwa simply doesnt do as well in MultiPlayerTournaments.. if you want to measure success in tournament results: Stephano is obv the best foreigner If both have 2 weeks prepartion time and have to play a bo7 against player X, Y .. who knows; probably Naniwa can shine
They are quite similar character wise:
+ both like trolling others + dont care about others/opinions + are polarizing
For me Stephano is the more entertaining guy and easier to get along with (which is what matters the most tho) so I have to give it to him
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Easy question:Stephano!
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Until Stephano goes to GSL and gets two Code S Ro8 in a row, Naniwa.
Besides that, Naniwa has a favorable record against players such as Genius, Ryung, Nestea, Puzzle, Creator, even MC.
Stephano I think has not a favorable record against any well achieved GSL player (MC, Nestea, MMA, Marineking, Polt, etc)
I can't believe people are this impressed on a NASL where his only difficult match was against MC and, even more, in a zerg-favored patch. Just remember that, not long ago, Naniwa had a second place at Providence eliminating DRG, Nestea and HuK, way more impressive than Stephano's NASL.
All this to say that I don't even like Naniwa. I don't like almost any foreigner.
Also lol @ people who believe that Stephano doesn't put at least 8 hours of training a day.
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no need to ask, it's obviously Stephano
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Naniwa imo.. hard to tell tho. Havent seens them play eachother.
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Until Stephano gets 2 GSL ro8s, it's Naniwa imo.
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Stephano
because protoss is easier to play.
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it would be Idra if he would get past that mental block/mindset issue. Idra is white DRG without the confidence. I think every single pro gamer agrees that Idra is number one foreigner if he gets past any mental issues that he has and does not tilt after something retarded happens to him in game. He certainly has top mechanics, top game sense, and top micro as a Zerg
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We'll see in WCS EU finals, won't we?
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what a dumb poll, stephano going all around the world and naniwa focusing solely on code s. how can one compare two different things...
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Odd poll.. How do you compare 2 players who play different races and focuses on different tournaments...
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We'll be able to compare soon but when I watch naniwa, it seems very even with the Koreans. When I watch stephano, he steamrolls. Its not even close in most of his games. I honestly don't think there is a single protoss in the world who can beat stephano consistently right now and thats a scary though. Who out there can touch him after killing what many people consider to be 2 of the top 3 protoss in the world handily at NASL then 4-0ing alicia who isnt horrible. Gotta hand it to stephano now. Every time people claim his style is figured out, he just says "w/e" and wrecks more toss
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On July 19 2012 01:45 s1ege wrote: it would be Idra if he would get past that mental block/mindset issue. Idra is white DRG without the confidence. I think every single pro gamer agrees that Idra is number one foreigner if he gets past any mental issues that he has and does not tilt after something retarded happens to him in game. He certainly has top mechanics, top game sense, and top micro as a Zerg
when was the last time you saw top gamesense/micro from IdrA lol? The only good foreigner from bw who does really well is MajOr, and if you watch his stream you'd understand what having really good mechanics means...
OT: get to go with NaNi who's consistent in the harderst league in the world, especially for a foreigner.
On July 19 2012 02:41 ShrykLdr wrote: We'll be able to compare soon but when I watch naniwa, it seems very even with the Koreans. When I watch stephano, he steamrolls. Its not even close in most of his games. I honestly don't think there is a single protoss in the world who can beat stephano consistently right now and thats a scary though. Who out there can touch him after killing what many people consider to be 2 of the top 3 protoss in the world handily at NASL then 4-0ing alicia who isnt horrible. Gotta hand it to stephano now. Every time people claim his style is figured out, he just says "w/e" and wrecks more toss
Code S players with preparation time have shown they were able to wreck Stephano the only time he came to Korea (MC/Mvp). Just bet that they'd find good timings/builds to dismantle his play if they've the time to do it but since he won't goo to Korea it won't happen and he'll keep killing unprepared players;
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Let's just put it this way:
Stephano's goal for his pro-sc2 to career is to make money. Which is he quite successful at.
Naniwa's goal is to be the best player in the world (even skipping out in tournaments to practice)... he has not won anything recently.
Because of this, I would say Stephano's the better player of the two. especially considering, as some have pointed out, that Naniwa had the opportunity of having way more practice time in Korea.
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I think Stephano will also do good in GSL. He can beat code S players. and he is well rounded in all match ups
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On July 19 2012 02:47 dmtran87 wrote: Let's just put it this way:
Stephano's goal for his pro-sc2 to career is to make money. Which is he quite successful at.
Naniwa's goal is to be the best player in the world (even skipping out in tournaments to practice)... he has not won anything recently.
Because of this, I would say Stephano's the better player of the two. especially considering, as some have pointed out, that Naniwa had the opportunity of having way more practice time in Korea.
what has the amount of money stephano makes to do with his SC2 skill. I don't see how a fan can welcome this prize-money-hunter attitude. It's understandable, yes, but is it likeable? Naniwa is the more proven player, because he has established himself very high in the toughest competition there is in SC2. Stephano never tried it until now, so I can't see why he should be considered as the best non-korean.
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On July 19 2012 03:03 TeeTS wrote:
what has the amount of money stephano makes to do with his SC2 skill. I don't see how a fan can welcome this prize-money-hunter attitude. It's understandable, yes, but is it likeable? Naniwa is the more proven player, because he has established himself very high in the toughest competition there is in SC2. Stephano never tried it until now, so I can't see why he should be considered as the best non-korean.
Money is the best unbiased measure of skill for professionals. They all doing it for money one way or another.
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If I went for other, it would be Alicia, he went full foreigner in NASL3 finals.
But seriously, Stephano looks the best now. If he can manage to solidify his ZvZ, he'd be clearly on top.
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Stephano hands down, QQ nani GSL QQ Get a grip Come back and vote again when nani makes over 100k thanks
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