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@DP Acro RBs me. DP jails Kush Fuba RBs prome
Some acro logic: Fuba knows that Thrawn is town (or SK claim) so he is less likely to doubt the green check than town and town didn't doubt it too much. Kush is the confirmed green so it be best if he took a shot at Kush.
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about half an hour before i hit the hay
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Oh and risk probably went for kush because at that point in time: Kush and I were the heavily suspected SKs and if Kush died, then I would be the next lynch.
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mmm i don't think i like a release lynch. i'm having the same issues with it now as I did before.. he's way too open with his thought processes for me to think he;'s scum
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On November 12 2012 17:06 Release wrote: @DP Acro RBs me. DP jails Kush Fuba RBs prome
Some acro logic: Fuba knows that Thrawn is town (or SK claim) so he is less likely to doubt the green check than town and town didn't doubt it too much. Kush is the confirmed green so it be best if he took a shot at Kush.
That is certainly plausible. I still think Prom was a much more sensible and likely NK target than kush was. But it is certainly possible. And If scum have no reason to doubt thrawns claim kush would certainly be a confirmed green in their eyes.
Hmm Interesting.
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not sure about that scenario.. you're saying that if thrawn is town, and a scum knows he's town, they will believe his green check and therefore shoot kush because kush is confirmed green? but surely scum would know that everyone else in the game has reason to doubt both thrawn's claim and the accuracy of his check. (kush could be framed or sk)
thrawn's green check on kush did not instantly confirm kush as green from town's perspective, and mafia would know that
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well, excellent lynch guys. Glad we go that one through.
I think it is safe to treat Risk's cases like we would a flipped townie. We know his best bet for survival was to convince us that someone else was scummier than he was.
I'm pretty tired so I'm going to have to keep thinking on this but I think we can use the no KP night to prove who the last scum is/isn't.
Any ways I'm done work for the weekend so I'm back in the game 100%. Before the night kill comes through you'll have my full thoughts. I think I'm a more likely night kill than DP is tonight but we'll see.
DP use the roleblock half tonight. Not the medic. I think you share my views on this but you should know whats up. Also: why did you JK me n1? I know you had a big ole town read on me but why did you expect to prevent a kp by jk'ing me?
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On November 12 2012 20:15 Promethelax wrote: well, excellent lynch guys. Glad we go that one through.
I think it is safe to treat Risk's cases like we would a flipped townie. We know his best bet for survival was to convince us that someone else was scummier than he was.
I'm pretty tired so I'm going to have to keep thinking on this but I think we can use the no KP night to prove who the last scum is/isn't.
Any ways I'm done work for the weekend so I'm back in the game 100%. Before the night kill comes through you'll have my full thoughts. I think I'm a more likely night kill than DP is tonight but we'll see.
DP use the roleblock half tonight. Not the medic. I think you share my views on this but you should know whats up. Also: why did you JK me n1? I know you had a big ole town read on me but why did you expect to prevent a kp by jk'ing me?
I jailed you because you were my biggest town read. You were very active and looking like your townie self. That was by far the best reason that I had at that point. No one else looked particularly townie to me. That was 90% of it. I also had some thoughts about replacements in general. I think I read somewhere that replacements are often killed by scum early on if they look townie. I think it was in TLVII or Liquid City. But I remember someone saying that and it played a small part.
But mainly it was early on in the game and you were clearly town and a threatening townie for scum to keep around at that.
I don;t feel like my jails were particularly bad. I really don;t understand what the problem with them is. Maybe I should have jailed matt? No offence to him but he has been useless in the last two games I had with him and showed no signs of improvement this game. Zealos would not have made a good jail either. There was talk of him being modkilled.
Fair enough if we had a marv or a hapa in this game I would have jailed them over you for sure. But there was no solid night one candidate like that. You were one of the strongest players in the game and also looked towniest.
So meh. I'm sure I'll get some feedback in post game about my jails but I feel they were good choices overall.
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Heh. I 'll go to bed now so I am up before the day post. good night all.
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The only reason I feel like your N1 jail was weak is that I didn't look like a good shot on N1, there was a lot of suspicion on me and I was a likely lynch candidate, not the kind of guy scum wants to be rid of. Since you also had a town read on me you weren't preventing the scum kill by Rb'ing. I think your other nights were decent and I can see your reasoning for them.
I'm pretty discontent with the activity level in this game. I was asleep for ~8 hours and only one guy posted. Come on, there are a bunch of you who are town left. Don't become complacent just because we have had three good lynches in a row. Don't throw away this game. On that note I'm done work for the week and will be jumping back into this game full steam ahead. My goal is the fabled 20 page filter and I think I'll manage it.
I'm going to read some thread now and hopefully get my thoughts together before the Action Deadline. They will be in the thread before the NK though, no question.
Town: pick it up. I'm disappointed in the rest of you. Post game I'll be yelling at most of you; just so you know.
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Night deadline reached. Daypost in an hour.
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Oh shit. I was off by an hour. I thought that the deadline was an hour later. Okay, getting some thoughts out into the thread.
I don't think that there are four mafia in this set up 8-4-1 seems crazy imba. We're at 5-1 now and probably 4-1 after deadline. We have two lynches total in which to get the last mafia. As such I want everyone to work to find a top two mafia list; not just who they think is mafia right now. If we make it to 2-1 the two townies left need all the input they can get to lynch the scum so get your thoughts into the thread!
Kush is not as townie as we have all been thinking. No matter what roles are left in the game this is a wonky set-up so assuming that two god fathers makes no sense is baseless. Kush and Draz did exactly the same scummy thing on the Hopeless wagon and we lynched Draz for it. Don't forget the possibility of a scum Kush, nothing in his play has suggested town so don't discount his flip.
Can a framer frame himself and can a Jailer jail himself? Look at the answers to these questions to figure out what might be going on.
I think Risk is right, there are too many blues for this to make sense (unless there are two scum left, possible but unlikely) make sure to look twice at all the claims. Fuba and Thrawn in particular though for the easy claimibility of one-shot powers. For a while I was very unsure of DP because mafia RB would want a power he could use every night but I do think he would have claimed RB and not JK in that situation.
Release and Kush have been flying under the radar a little too much. I don't trust those two when they are both sir-post-a-lots generally. In most games I play/obs with Kush I have to ignore everything he writes or get bogged down in the spam. The fact that he has avoided doing that here is very worrying to me. Remember Acro's thing about Release being Porky Pig and not fighting with Kush on the VT name theory. Really look into this one!
Fuba has played a pretty decent pro-town game with and since his claim. My worry is that he did nothing prior to that and scum might be worried about their chances at that point in the game and go for the gambit. Similarly to DP and Thrawn. Do not trust the claimants for their claims! Look at their play instead.
I am leaning most town on DP and Fuba and least on Thrawn/Rlease with Kush not far behind. I really don't like Thrawn's paly this game because I expect better from him. Release and Kush are these kind of players but Thrawn is a champ usually and here he hasn't eve read the thread. Check out everyone's filter and get down and dirty now. There aren't many players left in the game and the townies left after the NK had better step it up.
Best of luck guys, I doubt I'll be with you come the day post Marvin Acme signing out
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An after thought: I am ashamed of the town players who are not posting and playing their best in this game and I hope you all know it. If you somehow manage to lose after Acro, and to some small extent I, put you in this situation I will hate you forever.
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fuck I just wrote a lot but it got deleted. fuck this phone. Also we are lynching release. The reason why no one is talking is because his scumminess is so obvious.
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Re-write it and post it. You have no excuse.
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ok. Got up just in time. I jailed Release.
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My excuse is I'm on a cell phone.
One thing that seems weird about release: if he is scum then why wouldn't he lie about his flavor like the other scum?
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On November 13 2012 07:44 Promethelax wrote: Can a framer frame himself and can a Jailer jail himself?
No and no.
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I didn't have anything important to say before the deadline but i must put one thing straight:
I am not porky pig.
I did hate the flavor theory from the very start but i thought that as a town, we could ignore it. For the most part, we did manage to avoid flavor theory although the two N1 kills were probably helped by the few claims of VT in day1.
I claimed to be porky pig in an attempt to silence the flavor theory once and for all so that we could focus on actually getting things done and forcing Kush to make actual reads instead of facetious fathoms about roles and names. I had kept silent until the moment of my claim because i had still believed that Kush had been blue-hunting but that moment felt like the optimal moment to claim as porky pig. I hope that you can all see that despite all of my bad play at mafia, this has been my contribution.
I am painted tunnel btw. I did not breadcrumb earlier in the game because i never actually thought flavor theory would escalate in the way that it did. MY only (shitty bc) was "i smell with my little nose a freshly painted tunnel"
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