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On November 09 2012 15:52 phyre112 wrote: What's everyone's favorite way to eat eggs?
I eat a half dozen of them a day (at least) and I'm absolutely sick of the taste and texture of them alone. Any alternatives?
fry em and eat them with meat
i cannot eat boiled eggs, the texture and taste just makes me wanna puke :s
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On December 03 2012 18:57 Froadac wrote: Any good shelf stable/non refridgerated gaining instruments you guys enjoy?
Doughnuts. They're not exactly long term shelf stable, but they're good calories/dollar.
Spaghettios and similar type things are usually pretty good, although they're kind of unfortunately filling.
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Anyone here watch the documentary "Fat Head"? Its currently on Netflix. It's a low budget nutrition film that basically started off as a counter reply to "Supersize Me", but covers much more. I watched it and found it interesting, but was wondering how accurate what it says is.
+ Show Spoiler +- Basically he eats fast food for 30 days, but limits his calories to under 2000 and limits his carbs below 100g and loses weight/bf % (with very mild exercise) and lowers his cholesteral. I think like 15 pounds and 3-4% bf. Basically points out the faults of supersize me.
-He claims the obesity epicdemic is mostly because the government re-defined obese with BMI, which is a bad system, cause it does not take into account muscley strongmen like us at TLHF. He also said media stretched obesity deaths by counting every obese persons death as a death because of obeseity, even a snake bite. Government and other groups profit from this by creating weight loss products etc.etc.
-Claims a fat person that exercises will be healthier than a skinny person who is not active.
- Says that high fat diet is good, and that carbs/grains have been causing weight gain due to increase in insulin. Groups like CSPI are made by vegetarians and spread these lies into the government for their own beliefs etc. Lipid hypothesis biggest scam in science history.
- Heart disease not caused by cholesteral but by blood sugar mainly. No real correlation between high cholesteral and heart disease.
-Researchers that don't agree with the government get kicked out for researchers that do agree with the government.
I can't remember the rest and not sure if I accurately said the right things, so actually watch the film to see if it seems accurate. But comment if you watched it to tell how accurate it is. Its interesting. For the most part I think the guy making it agrees with the principles of the "Paleo Diet" as stated in an interview. But yeah alot of shady stuff involving the government and CSPI makes ya wonder.
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I watched it, it's a good documentary. He's not entirely off. Given that he was mostly making a point, I thought it was good.
Also, as a skinny guy who's done sedentary before, I can say for a fact that before I started getting back in shape, there were people who would be considered "overweight" who were way healthier than me.
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On December 04 2012 04:41 Mementoss wrote:Anyone here watch the documentary "Fat Head"? Its currently on Netflix. It's a low budget nutrition film that basically started off as a counter reply to "Supersize Me", but covers much more. I watched it and found it interesting, but was wondering how accurate what it says is. + Show Spoiler +- Basically he eats fast food for 30 days, but limits his calories to under 2000 and limits his carbs below 100g and loses weight/bf % (with very mild exercise) and lowers his cholesteral. I think like 15 pounds and 3-4% bf. Basically points out the faults of supersize me.
-He claims the obesity epicdemic is mostly because the government re-defined obese with BMI, which is a bad system, cause it does not take into account muscley strongmen like us at TLHF. He also said media stretched obesity deaths by counting every obese persons death as a death because of obeseity, even a snake bite. Government and other groups profit from this by creating weight loss products etc.etc.
-Claims a fat person that exercises will be healthier than a skinny person who is not active.
- Says that high fat diet is good, and that carbs/grains have been causing weight gain due to increase in insulin. Groups like CSPI are made by vegetarians and spread these lies into the government for their own beliefs etc. Lipid hypothesis biggest scam in science history.
- Heart disease not caused by cholesteral but by blood sugar mainly. No real correlation between high cholesteral and heart disease.
-Researchers that don't agree with the government get kicked out for researchers that do agree with the government. I can't remember the rest and not sure if I accurately said the right things, so actually watch the film to see if it seems accurate. But comment if you watched it to tell how accurate it is. Its interesting. For the most part I think the guy making it agrees with the principles of the "Paleo Diet" as stated in an interview. But yeah alot of shady stuff involving the government and CSPI makes ya wonder.
I think Fat Head does a good job refuting the fear of dietary fat and cholesterol, but then ruins it all by spreading misinformation about insulin and blood sugar.
(Insulin cannot make your body defy the laws of thermodynamics, increases in insulin makes your body more resistant to using body fat AND muscle tissue for fuel, but because the energy must come from somewhere, more tissue will be burned later (after blood sugar has been metabolized). Weight loss and weight gain is determined solely by calories in vs calories out, it is literally true in laboratory conditions. High GI food will not make you fatter than the same amount of calories in another form. Though excess consumption of high GI MIGHT make it more likely you develop diabetes, being obese and being sedentary are much stronger indicators for diabetes. I also don't like Paleo Deit, since there is no reason to assume the diet of our evolutionary acestors is inherently better than modern diets.)
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I went to the store got tuna, peanut butter, nuts.
And a block of chocolate because why not.
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On December 04 2012 06:49 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 04:41 Mementoss wrote:Anyone here watch the documentary "Fat Head"? Its currently on Netflix. It's a low budget nutrition film that basically started off as a counter reply to "Supersize Me", but covers much more. I watched it and found it interesting, but was wondering how accurate what it says is. + Show Spoiler +- Basically he eats fast food for 30 days, but limits his calories to under 2000 and limits his carbs below 100g and loses weight/bf % (with very mild exercise) and lowers his cholesteral. I think like 15 pounds and 3-4% bf. Basically points out the faults of supersize me.
-He claims the obesity epicdemic is mostly because the government re-defined obese with BMI, which is a bad system, cause it does not take into account muscley strongmen like us at TLHF. He also said media stretched obesity deaths by counting every obese persons death as a death because of obeseity, even a snake bite. Government and other groups profit from this by creating weight loss products etc.etc.
-Claims a fat person that exercises will be healthier than a skinny person who is not active.
- Says that high fat diet is good, and that carbs/grains have been causing weight gain due to increase in insulin. Groups like CSPI are made by vegetarians and spread these lies into the government for their own beliefs etc. Lipid hypothesis biggest scam in science history.
- Heart disease not caused by cholesteral but by blood sugar mainly. No real correlation between high cholesteral and heart disease.
-Researchers that don't agree with the government get kicked out for researchers that do agree with the government. I can't remember the rest and not sure if I accurately said the right things, so actually watch the film to see if it seems accurate. But comment if you watched it to tell how accurate it is. Its interesting. For the most part I think the guy making it agrees with the principles of the "Paleo Diet" as stated in an interview. But yeah alot of shady stuff involving the government and CSPI makes ya wonder. I think Fat Head does a good job refuting the fear of dietary fat and cholesterol, but then ruins it all by spreading misinformation about insulin and blood sugar. (Insulin cannot make your body defy the laws of thermodynamics, increases in insulin makes your body more resistant to using body fat AND muscle tissue for fuel, but because the energy must come from somewhere, more tissue will be burned later (after blood sugar has been metabolized). Weight loss and weight gain is determined solely by calories in vs calories out, it is literally true in laboratory conditions. High GI food will not make you fatter than the same amount of calories in another form. Though excess consumption of high GI MIGHT make it more likely you develop diabetes, being obese and being sedentary are much stronger indicators for diabetes. I also don't like Paleo Deit, since there is no reason to assume the diet of our evolutionary acestors is inherently better than modern diets.)
http://articles.elitefts.com/nutrition/logic-does-not-apply-iii-a-calorie-is-a-calorie/
I was just reading this article today when I saw your post. Interesting read
btw what do you guys think of carb backloading? The general idea to to only eat carbs after the workout some days a week. I havent looked into it much but it's interesting. It seems very similar to cyclic lowcarb.
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On December 04 2012 11:56 AoN.DimSum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 06:49 Crushinator wrote:On December 04 2012 04:41 Mementoss wrote:Anyone here watch the documentary "Fat Head"? Its currently on Netflix. It's a low budget nutrition film that basically started off as a counter reply to "Supersize Me", but covers much more. I watched it and found it interesting, but was wondering how accurate what it says is. + Show Spoiler +- Basically he eats fast food for 30 days, but limits his calories to under 2000 and limits his carbs below 100g and loses weight/bf % (with very mild exercise) and lowers his cholesteral. I think like 15 pounds and 3-4% bf. Basically points out the faults of supersize me.
-He claims the obesity epicdemic is mostly because the government re-defined obese with BMI, which is a bad system, cause it does not take into account muscley strongmen like us at TLHF. He also said media stretched obesity deaths by counting every obese persons death as a death because of obeseity, even a snake bite. Government and other groups profit from this by creating weight loss products etc.etc.
-Claims a fat person that exercises will be healthier than a skinny person who is not active.
- Says that high fat diet is good, and that carbs/grains have been causing weight gain due to increase in insulin. Groups like CSPI are made by vegetarians and spread these lies into the government for their own beliefs etc. Lipid hypothesis biggest scam in science history.
- Heart disease not caused by cholesteral but by blood sugar mainly. No real correlation between high cholesteral and heart disease.
-Researchers that don't agree with the government get kicked out for researchers that do agree with the government. I can't remember the rest and not sure if I accurately said the right things, so actually watch the film to see if it seems accurate. But comment if you watched it to tell how accurate it is. Its interesting. For the most part I think the guy making it agrees with the principles of the "Paleo Diet" as stated in an interview. But yeah alot of shady stuff involving the government and CSPI makes ya wonder. I think Fat Head does a good job refuting the fear of dietary fat and cholesterol, but then ruins it all by spreading misinformation about insulin and blood sugar. (Insulin cannot make your body defy the laws of thermodynamics, increases in insulin makes your body more resistant to using body fat AND muscle tissue for fuel, but because the energy must come from somewhere, more tissue will be burned later (after blood sugar has been metabolized). Weight loss and weight gain is determined solely by calories in vs calories out, it is literally true in laboratory conditions. High GI food will not make you fatter than the same amount of calories in another form. Though excess consumption of high GI MIGHT make it more likely you develop diabetes, being obese and being sedentary are much stronger indicators for diabetes. I also don't like Paleo Deit, since there is no reason to assume the diet of our evolutionary acestors is inherently better than modern diets.) http://articles.elitefts.com/nutrition/logic-does-not-apply-iii-a-calorie-is-a-calorie/I was just reading this article today when I saw your post. Interesting read btw what do you guys think of carb backloading? The general idea to to only eat carbs after the workout some days a week. I havent looked into it much but it's interesting. It seems very similar to cyclic lowcarb.
I think Gotunk did that a while back and said it felt like steroids, so it's worth a shot :D
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On December 04 2012 11:56 AoN.DimSum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 06:49 Crushinator wrote:On December 04 2012 04:41 Mementoss wrote:Anyone here watch the documentary "Fat Head"? Its currently on Netflix. It's a low budget nutrition film that basically started off as a counter reply to "Supersize Me", but covers much more. I watched it and found it interesting, but was wondering how accurate what it says is. + Show Spoiler +- Basically he eats fast food for 30 days, but limits his calories to under 2000 and limits his carbs below 100g and loses weight/bf % (with very mild exercise) and lowers his cholesteral. I think like 15 pounds and 3-4% bf. Basically points out the faults of supersize me.
-He claims the obesity epicdemic is mostly because the government re-defined obese with BMI, which is a bad system, cause it does not take into account muscley strongmen like us at TLHF. He also said media stretched obesity deaths by counting every obese persons death as a death because of obeseity, even a snake bite. Government and other groups profit from this by creating weight loss products etc.etc.
-Claims a fat person that exercises will be healthier than a skinny person who is not active.
- Says that high fat diet is good, and that carbs/grains have been causing weight gain due to increase in insulin. Groups like CSPI are made by vegetarians and spread these lies into the government for their own beliefs etc. Lipid hypothesis biggest scam in science history.
- Heart disease not caused by cholesteral but by blood sugar mainly. No real correlation between high cholesteral and heart disease.
-Researchers that don't agree with the government get kicked out for researchers that do agree with the government. I can't remember the rest and not sure if I accurately said the right things, so actually watch the film to see if it seems accurate. But comment if you watched it to tell how accurate it is. Its interesting. For the most part I think the guy making it agrees with the principles of the "Paleo Diet" as stated in an interview. But yeah alot of shady stuff involving the government and CSPI makes ya wonder. I think Fat Head does a good job refuting the fear of dietary fat and cholesterol, but then ruins it all by spreading misinformation about insulin and blood sugar. (Insulin cannot make your body defy the laws of thermodynamics, increases in insulin makes your body more resistant to using body fat AND muscle tissue for fuel, but because the energy must come from somewhere, more tissue will be burned later (after blood sugar has been metabolized). Weight loss and weight gain is determined solely by calories in vs calories out, it is literally true in laboratory conditions. High GI food will not make you fatter than the same amount of calories in another form. Though excess consumption of high GI MIGHT make it more likely you develop diabetes, being obese and being sedentary are much stronger indicators for diabetes. I also don't like Paleo Deit, since there is no reason to assume the diet of our evolutionary acestors is inherently better than modern diets.) http://articles.elitefts.com/nutrition/logic-does-not-apply-iii-a-calorie-is-a-calorie/I was just reading this article today when I saw your post. Interesting read btw what do you guys think of carb backloading? The general idea to to only eat carbs after the workout some days a week. I havent looked into it much but it's interesting. It seems very similar to cyclic lowcarb.
I obviously wouldn't argue that a calorie is a calorie. Only that the energy balance equation always applies, and that insulin is largely irrelevant. Things such as the thermic effect of feeding should be accounted for in the equation, and the composition of macronutrients is obviously crucial to anyone concerned with their body.
I believe the reasons for backloading are a bit shady. The insulin spike isn't going to have much of an effect at all, and there is no particular reason you should want to refill glycogen stores right after your workout, as opposed to any other time between workouts. The benefit of backloading is that it makes me feel more energetic, and thats why I do it.
I do backloading when bulking, but not while cutting. There aren't enough carbs in my cutting diet for me to want to waste them on sugar at a specific time. I like eating food throughout the day. In the end I don't think its worth worrying about too much. If you like to eat your carbs at other times, its probably not going to have a measurable effect on your body. If eating carbs after your workout makes you feel good, go for it, if eating them in the morning makes you feel better, do that, is my take on it.
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what do you guys do with canned tuna
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add to salads, eat with crackers/biscuits/whatever equivalent you eat if you don't eat wheat, straight out of the can, thats about it really
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On December 05 2012 14:47 Froadac wrote: what do you guys do with canned tuna A lot of people think straight out of can tastes pretty bad, meh, it's a bit dry but its okay.
You should try making tuna mousse. What I do is I take a can of tuna, about as much yoghurt as there is tuna (I use skyr for this, not sure if it is sold worldwide, but its yoghurt with 11% protein content). Mix it in a bowl and add some salt, peper and little but of concentrated lemon.
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On December 05 2012 14:47 Froadac wrote: what do you guys do with canned tuna
-tuna helper (similar to hamburger helper) easy to make and tasty in 10 minutes -poor mans tuna helper (kraft dinner and tuna) - tuna sandwhich - just eat a can with a little salsa or mayo mixed in (makes it less dry and yummy, less healthy but makes it yummy) - the other day I was making cheese pizza cause I had no meat, took a bite and said this is lame. Than I said "fuck it" put tuna on it, and it tasted amazing.
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Mayo/Miracle Whip makes tuna fantastic. If you're bulking this is good
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Yeah i just mix it with Mayo then you can put it with salad or bread ez pz
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tuna is one of the best additions to salad i know. random salad + tuna, tomatos and a hard boiled egg with a nice self made vinaigrette is amazing. the tiny pieces you get from canned tuna plus the eggyolk make the whole thing come together. so good that sometimes i decide against making a salad when im out of tuna (same as ramen without egg)
and ofc mayo+tuna sandwhich(again some salad for texture) is grreat ~
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Just want to add that if you plan on eating lots of tuna, you should probably look up how many cans a week is deemed safe for somebody of your bodyweight. Mercury poisoning is supposedly a pretty bad thing.
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What I had for dinnerL - tuna steak cooked with garlic and butter - 3 eggs fried with butter - steamed broccoli and brussel sprouts - white rice
omg i love food so much. live to eat!
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Yeah, I already looked up can limits. I'm only having it for extra meals maybe twice a week max.
I went to the store bought peanutbutter, some bread, some sweet potatos for microwavable use, some bananas, some almonds, and some boneless skinless chicken.
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On December 06 2012 15:32 Froadac wrote: Yeah, I already looked up can limits. I'm only having it for extra meals maybe twice a week max.
I went to the store bought peanutbutter, some bread, some sweet potatos for microwavable use, some bananas, some almonds, and some boneless skinless chicken.
I probably eat a 10 oz can three times a week. CDC says that the mercury in all Tuna is low enough that you're fine eating "within recommended limits of fish" - which is 2.2lbs/week for an average size person (35 ounces), and that cheaper tuna (what students would buy - canned chunk light tuna) has lower mercury than stuff like Tuna Steaks.
as far as how to eat it, mix it with mayo or pour lemon juice on it. Hell, it doesn't even taste bad plain, it's just a little dry.
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