On December 04 2012 09:10 vOdToasT wrote: There is no fighting game equivalent of Brood War, 'cause they're all imbalanced. Saying Brood War is like SF2 belittles Brood War. SF2 has counter picks and imbalanced match ups. It's also a less deep and magnificent game than Brood War.
Also, SF2 Turbo is simple compared to other fighting games (It's one of the better fighting games, though). Brood War is complex compared to other RTS games. It's not a good analogy. A better analogy would be Guilty Gear, because it's over the top, hard to get in to, and has tons of stuff. It is the fighting game that is most like StarCraft in that it just gives you a shitload of tools and says "do whatever you want with this". However, even that analogy is unfair because it's imbalanced.
Also, it's easier to overcome imbalances in Guilty Gear by just being really good, like in Brood War. If you play on an imbalanced map, you can overcome it if you're better than your opponent in Brood War, because the skill ceiling is so high and the game is infinite. That is not the case in Street Fighter 2, where simplicity rules supreme (which there is nothing wrong with in itself). If you get counter picked by an inferior player in SF2, you are less likely to win compared to the same thing happening in Guilty Gear.
Also, Guilty Gear has the craziest moments. The 1 frame unblockable defenses, throwing people out of gold bursts, and so on. Just like StarCraft has the craziest moments of its genre.
Dunno about GG, but the last SFII entry IS among the most balanced fighters out there, and you don't really use air combos in that game. There is a specific deck of cards that you are limited to, much like BW with an army cap.
On December 05 2012 04:47 Gendo wrote: Silly question but can't find an answer around.. What's the worker optimal saturation per patch? 2 each? 3 gas?
I followed every step in the video (Registered on ICCup.com, ICCup-Launcher, Patch to 1.16.1 and ICCup-Maps), but I simply can't chose "The Abbyss". It does not show up. Neither when I start with ICCup-Launcher nor when I directly start with StarCraft.exe.
I have already tried the reg-files (WarCraft 3?) and re-installed the ICCup-Launcher. Did I miss something? :o
So, tried every trick in the book but cant get the colors right..want to run it windowed, how can i set the desktop res to 640x480 if the drivers dont allow me?
Lowest desktop res is 800x600, at least it is for me. I just play like that, with the 640x480 windowed mode BW taking up a majority of my monitor. My monitor also has a 4:3 in wide option, which, as it implies, letter boxes the sides and avoids the whole stretched look of a 4:3 ratio on a widescreen monitor.
On December 06 2012 07:05 Chaplin wrote: Hm, it won't work for me : (
I followed every step in the video (Registered on ICCup.com, ICCup-Launcher, Patch to 1.16.1 and ICCup-Maps), but I simply can't chose "The Abbyss". It does not show up. Neither when I start with ICCup-Launcher nor when I directly start with StarCraft.exe.
I have already tried the reg-files (WarCraft 3?) and re-installed the ICCup-Launcher. Did I miss something? :o
ICCUP screwed up and their new ICCUP Launcher doesn't add the registry key anymore, and for some reason the reg file is for WC3...
1001 01 sc.theabyss.ru 3 The Abyss (ICCup) uswest.battle.net 8 U.S. West useast.battle.net 6 U.S. East asia.battle.net -9 Asia europe.battle.net -1 Europe
I hope they fix this soon because new players will just get frustrated and give up :O
Strangely after manualy editting the gateways, I could just log into The Abbyss once. Then the gateway disappeared again. Luckily the second download link in your Youtube-video-description works so far.
So i was settled into playing with screwed menus... when i aunch the game and shows full screen (stretched) with beautiful colors but unplayable and now it's always like that lol!! Being on a laptop i don't have the option to force it 4:3, reinstalled everything and still stretched wtf!
On December 06 2012 20:54 Gendo wrote: So i was settled into playing with screwed menus... when i aunch the game and shows full screen (stretched) with beautiful colors but unplayable and now it's always like that lol!! Being on a laptop i don't have the option to force it 4:3, reinstalled everything and still stretched wtf!
did you set your graphics driver to fixed aspect ratio? what graphics card are you using?
On December 06 2012 20:54 Gendo wrote: So i was settled into playing with screwed menus... when i aunch the game and shows full screen (stretched) with beautiful colors but unplayable and now it's always like that lol!! Being on a laptop i don't have the option to force it 4:3, reinstalled everything and still stretched wtf!
did you set your graphics driver to fixed aspect ratio? what graphics card are you using?
I have a laptop with Nvidia GT555 and there's no such an option, i fixed the lag by removing the direct draw hack, still good colors but stretched
On December 06 2012 20:54 Gendo wrote: So i was settled into playing with screwed menus... when i aunch the game and shows full screen (stretched) with beautiful colors but unplayable and now it's always like that lol!! Being on a laptop i don't have the option to force it 4:3, reinstalled everything and still stretched wtf!
did you set your graphics driver to fixed aspect ratio? what graphics card are you using?
I have a laptop with Nvidia GT555 and there's no such an option, i fixed the lag by removing the direct draw hack, still good colors but stretched
Have you checked the Nvidia system tray icon? It should be in the lower right corner of your screen, where the clock is displayed.
On December 04 2012 09:10 vOdToasT wrote: There is no fighting game equivalent of Brood War, 'cause they're all imbalanced. Saying Brood War is like SF2 belittles Brood War. SF2 has counter picks and imbalanced match ups. It's also a less deep and magnificent game than Brood War.
Also, SF2 Turbo is simple compared to other fighting games (It's one of the better fighting games, though). Brood War is complex compared to other RTS games. It's not a good analogy. A better analogy would be Guilty Gear, because it's over the top, hard to get in to, and has tons of stuff. It is the fighting game that is most like StarCraft in that it just gives you a shitload of tools and says "do whatever you want with this". However, even that analogy is unfair because it's imbalanced.
Also, it's easier to overcome imbalances in Guilty Gear by just being really good, like in Brood War. If you play on an imbalanced map, you can overcome it if you're better than your opponent in Brood War, because the skill ceiling is so high and the game is infinite. That is not the case in Street Fighter 2, where simplicity rules supreme (which there is nothing wrong with in itself). If you get counter picked by an inferior player in SF2, you are less likely to win compared to the same thing happening in Guilty Gear.
Also, Guilty Gear has the craziest moments. The 1 frame unblockable defenses, throwing people out of gold bursts, and so on. Just like StarCraft has the craziest moments of its genre.
Dunno about GG, but the last SFII entry IS among the most balanced fighters out there, and you don't really use air combos in that game. There is a specific deck of cards that you are limited to, much like BW with an army cap.
Lol, Unreal Tournament. Made me want to play some fps.
No! Keep playing BW!
Yeah, it's balanced by fighting game standards (It's among the better balanced fighting games), but that just shows you how low the standards are. I mean, there are counter picks. If you made a match up chart for Brood War, it would be all 5 - 5. Even the win percentages support this. They're all closer to 50% than they are to 55%, thus making it 5 - 5 rather than 6 - 4. The game is fun, though, I will give it that. Especially if you're playing one of the more balanced match ups.
On December 06 2012 20:54 Gendo wrote: So i was settled into playing with screwed menus... when i aunch the game and shows full screen (stretched) with beautiful colors but unplayable and now it's always like that lol!! Being on a laptop i don't have the option to force it 4:3, reinstalled everything and still stretched wtf!
did you set your graphics driver to fixed aspect ratio? what graphics card are you using?
I have a laptop with Nvidia GT555 and there's no such an option, i fixed the lag by removing the direct draw hack, still good colors but stretched
Go to Start->Control Panel and open the NVidia options stuff and choose fixed aspect ratio:
On December 06 2012 20:54 Gendo wrote: So i was settled into playing with screwed menus... when i aunch the game and shows full screen (stretched) with beautiful colors but unplayable and now it's always like that lol!! Being on a laptop i don't have the option to force it 4:3, reinstalled everything and still stretched wtf!
did you set your graphics driver to fixed aspect ratio? what graphics card are you using?
I have a laptop with Nvidia GT555 and there's no such an option, i fixed the lag by removing the direct draw hack, still good colors but stretched
Go to Start->Control Panel and open the NVidia options stuff and choose fixed aspect ratio:
I see what you mean but i don't have that option probably because it's a laptop, trying installing it in windows xp virtualization, will let you know
Laptops should be able to retain aspect ratios, mines does. But it is possible that some of them don't support this. I think it's unlikely that your Nvidia chip can't work with aspect ratios though.
EDIT: Not sure if this is still applicable today, but if everything else doesn't work it might be worth checking this out:
On December 07 2012 00:14 ChinaGreenTea wrote: Laptops should be able to retain aspect ratios, mines does. But it is possible that some of them don't support this. I think it's unlikely that your Nvidia chip can't work with aspect ratios though.
I researched that option and don't have it in the control panel (latest driver), the only similar one is with the integrated intel hd3000 to make a custom resolution (not available in nvidia), works only once i start Sc but doesn't scale so its bloody small..weird used to work, not even reinstalling helps, might be some of those files i used to change the registry and can't undo those..
On December 07 2012 00:14 ChinaGreenTea wrote: Laptops should be able to retain aspect ratios, mines does. But it is possible that some of them don't support this. I think it's unlikely that your Nvidia chip can't work with aspect ratios though.
I researched that option and don't have it in the control panel (latest driver), the only similar one is with the integrated intel hd3000 to make a custom resolution (not available in nvidia), works only once i start Sc but doesn't scale so its bloody small..weird used to work, not even reinstalling helps, might be some of those files i used to change the registry and can't undo those..