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On December 07 2012 02:27 vesicular wrote: Well, if they can cast it in english that's great, but I'd rather watch the Korean commentary anyway. I would rather it be cast in prime time, and was streamed directly to my Xbox, because I am demanding and look to the future.(IPL looked so bad ass on my TV)
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On December 07 2012 02:28 Fyodor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:16 supernovamaniac wrote: If MLG "rebroadcasts" it at prime time, does this mean that people are free to re-stream PL(OGN) live? No, that would be illegal and immoral. Yeah. I agree re-streaming it for free, is fucking disgusting! + Show Spoiler +He did not say anything about watching the restream tho ^^
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On December 07 2012 02:16 supernovamaniac wrote: If MLG "rebroadcasts" it at prime time, does this mean that people are free to re-stream PL(OGN) live? With MLG now sticking their nose in, I see them possibly shutting down the re-streams for whatever reason. Gotta keep eSports as small as possible after all.
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So, instead of having casters in Korea cast the games live and on location we're going to have people halfway across the world cast the games a day late? Good job KeSPA, OGN and MLG...
Is it really that hard to have casters on location, a live stream and timely and well organized VODs? It's not like Gretchen has been doing it for 2+ years...
On December 07 2012 02:32 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:27 vesicular wrote: Well, if they can cast it in english that's great, but I'd rather watch the Korean commentary anyway. I would rather it be cast in prime time, and was streamed directly to my Xbox, because I am demanding and look to the future.(IPL looked so bad ass on my TV) TV + computer + HDMI cable. Really no need for an XBOX
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On December 07 2012 02:36 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:16 supernovamaniac wrote: If MLG "rebroadcasts" it at prime time, does this mean that people are free to re-stream PL(OGN) live? With MLG now sticking their nose in, I see them possibly shutting down the re-streams for whatever reason. Gotta keep eSports as small as possible after all. If they kept everything from Korean cast (live audience camera, player camera, instant player interviews right after match, etc), I would be fine with MLG broadcasts.
However, if MLG only obtains the replays and casts those, I, for sure, won't be tuning in to the English cast. I would rather have the whole experience and have someone else cast it.
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On December 07 2012 02:39 Fischbacher wrote:So, instead of having casters in Korea cast the games live and on location we're going to have people halfway across the world cast the games a day late? Good job KeSPA, OGN and MLG... Is it really that hard to have casters on location, a live stream and timely and well organized VODs? It's not like Gretchen has been doing it for 2+ years... Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:32 Plansix wrote:On December 07 2012 02:27 vesicular wrote: Well, if they can cast it in english that's great, but I'd rather watch the Korean commentary anyway. I would rather it be cast in prime time, and was streamed directly to my Xbox, because I am demanding and look to the future.(IPL looked so bad ass on my TV) TV + computer + HDMI cable. Really no need for an XBOX We don't know how it's going to work.
Maybe medium-long term MLG and KeSPA can work out a caster booth on-site.
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On December 07 2012 02:39 Fischbacher wrote:So, instead of having casters in Korea cast the games live and on location we're going to have people halfway across the world cast the games a day late? Good job KeSPA, OGN and MLG... Is it really that hard to have casters on location, a live stream and timely and well organized VODs? It's not like Gretchen has been doing it for 2+ years... Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:32 Plansix wrote:On December 07 2012 02:27 vesicular wrote: Well, if they can cast it in english that's great, but I'd rather watch the Korean commentary anyway. I would rather it be cast in prime time, and was streamed directly to my Xbox, because I am demanding and look to the future.(IPL looked so bad ass on my TV) TV + computer + HDMI cable. Really no need for an XBOX
Been there, done that, already have it set up. Was better on my Xbox with IPL, with more consistant video quality(my internet is Fios, so I can pull down all the 1080ps) and took 10 seconds to get going. Its been 2 years, I want an app for my Xbox, Roku or an Apple TV.
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On December 07 2012 02:44 Fyodor wrote:
Maybe medium-long term MLG and KeSPA can work out a caster booth on-site.
Maybe short-medium-long term they can hire doa to do it on site, he's obviously keen.
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On December 07 2012 02:44 Fyodor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:39 Fischbacher wrote:So, instead of having casters in Korea cast the games live and on location we're going to have people halfway across the world cast the games a day late? Good job KeSPA, OGN and MLG... Is it really that hard to have casters on location, a live stream and timely and well organized VODs? It's not like Gretchen has been doing it for 2+ years... On December 07 2012 02:32 Plansix wrote:On December 07 2012 02:27 vesicular wrote: Well, if they can cast it in english that's great, but I'd rather watch the Korean commentary anyway. I would rather it be cast in prime time, and was streamed directly to my Xbox, because I am demanding and look to the future.(IPL looked so bad ass on my TV) TV + computer + HDMI cable. Really no need for an XBOX We don't know how it's going to work. Maybe medium-long term MLG and KeSPA can work out a caster booth on-site. The bit where MLGAdam mentions that they want to leverage ProLeague content to have nightly content over the week is what makes me nervous. PL runs 4 nights a week and in a bad time-zone. If they casted the games live, had the VODs behind a paywall right away and re-streamed a game every day I would be pretty happy, but from the sound of it all they are planing on is to restream stuff on a pretty significant tape delay.
OGN had a plan to have a proper stream for this week-end. Whatever medium to long range KeSPA and MLG have it's too late already.
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On December 07 2012 02:48 Bashnek wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:44 Fyodor wrote:
Maybe medium-long term MLG and KeSPA can work out a caster booth on-site. Maybe short-medium-long term they can hire doa to do it on site, he's obviously keen. But that would require cooperating with other organizations and helping to grow eSports... Definitely not MLG or KeSPA's MO.
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This seems too bad, people like me want to have english comentary LIVE. And if most people cant watch it live, whats the difference between watching a VOD of the live broadcast than a delayed live broadcast of replays ?
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On December 07 2012 02:56 MadJack wrote: This seems too bad, people like me want to have english comentary LIVE. And if most people cant watch it live, whats the difference between watching a VOD of the live broadcast than a delayed live broadcast of replays ? A lot.
No cheerfuls, no player cameras, no player interviews (on the spot), etc.
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On December 07 2012 02:53 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:48 Bashnek wrote:On December 07 2012 02:44 Fyodor wrote:
Maybe medium-long term MLG and KeSPA can work out a caster booth on-site. Maybe short-medium-long term they can hire doa to do it on site, he's obviously keen. But that would require cooperating with other organizations and helping to grow eSports... Definitely not MLG or KeSPA's MO.
What is this bullshit about mlg and kespa not growing esports? Are you blind to what kespa did in korea with brood war, are you so ignorant that you don't see what they build in the last 10+ years. kespa teams are by far the most professionally run pro gaming teams in the world, they have the biggest corporate sponsors and the most professionally run leagues in terms of admins/map makers/format etc. pp. MLG is the only old school NA organization that is still around. CGS went down, CPL is long gone, yet MLG still stands even though it was founded in 02. They had progamers on dr pepper bottles, they had non-gaming related sponsors like doritos or old spice in 08/09 where esports was supposedly in it's darkest hour. They were the first na organization to pick up starcraft 2 and help making it the huge phenomenon it is today.
As a matter of the fact MLG and KESPA have done more to grow esports than pretty much any other still existing organization within esports, so to say that they are not interested in growth, when they have brought so much growth to their respective regions, it's sooo ignorant. I don't know why people think so black/white and try to find the bad guys...
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come on MLG! you can do it!
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On December 07 2012 02:57 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:56 MadJack wrote: This seems too bad, people like me want to have english comentary LIVE. And if most people cant watch it live, whats the difference between watching a VOD of the live broadcast than a delayed live broadcast of replays ? A lot. No cheerfuls, no player cameras, no player interviews (on the spot), etc. No hype
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So has KeSPA always been run by assholes or...?
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On December 07 2012 02:59 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:53 Dosey wrote:On December 07 2012 02:48 Bashnek wrote:On December 07 2012 02:44 Fyodor wrote:
Maybe medium-long term MLG and KeSPA can work out a caster booth on-site. Maybe short-medium-long term they can hire doa to do it on site, he's obviously keen. But that would require cooperating with other organizations and helping to grow eSports... Definitely not MLG or KeSPA's MO. What is this bullshit about mlg and kespa not growing esports? Are you blind to what kespa did in korea with brood war, are you so ignorant that you don't see what they build in the last 10+ years. kespa teams are by far the most professionally run pro gaming teams in the world, they have the biggest corporate sponsors and the most professionally run leagues in terms of admins/map makers/format etc. pp. MLG is the only old school NA organization that is still around. CGS went down, CPL is long gone, yet MLG still stands even though it was founded in 02. They had progamers on dr pepper bottles, they had non-gaming related sponsors like doritos or old spice in 08/09 where esports was supposedly in it's darkest hour. They were the first na organization to pick up starcraft 2 and help making it the huge phenomenon it is today. As a matter of the fact MLG and KESPA have done more to grow esports than pretty much any other still existing organization within esports, so to say that they are not interested in growth, when they have brought so much growth to their respective regions, it's sooo ignorant. I don't know why people think so black/white and try to find the bad guys... It's a joke about a post made here a month or so ago talking about evil starcraft organizations. Relax there kiddo.
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I would really like a rebroadcast, I always wish GOM did one during EST hours, est people can't really stay up unless you have absolutely nothing going on the next day.
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Go go MLG! be my hero plz
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