I'm obviously mafia fake claiming vig and then serial killer.
Neither of which a mafia can confirm and then both of which would get them lynched after not confirming
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debears
United States2516 Posts
I'm obviously mafia fake claiming vig and then serial killer. Neither of which a mafia can confirm and then both of which would get them lynched after not confirming | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:35 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 17:06 wherebugsgo wrote: Debears is town, you asshats. If he was scum why the fuck would he shoot Toad after pushing him all day? To make it harder for himself? Do you think he would defend himself this strongly if he was scum? (the second one is an actual, genuine question, though I think I know the answer) There are a few things to note. One, Morbidius used Toad's flip to put suspicion on debears. That's something town like to do. Secondly, only a really bad scum team would shoot Toad, or Toad was right about something (or a combination of both). Toad listed morbidius, Vivax, and stutters as probable scum. I'll be looking into those players (as well as promethelax and eywa) today. For now I think morbidius has the strongest chance to flip scum. I like how you selectively don't include debears for the case that Toad has been shot by a bad scum team, right after reading him town in the case that he couldn't have done it cause only a bad scum team would make that mistake. You probably should just lead us or we'll let make you mistakes. Sorry, eminence. wut that didn't make any sense. Sorry, you're still retarded just like everyone else in this game. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:40 debears wrote: This town is so great at analysis. I'm obviously mafia fake claiming vig and then serial killer. Neither of which a mafia can confirm and then both of which would get them lynched after not confirming You were getting lynched anyway. You claimed vig to out ours, and then SK to make some stupid plea for life that was never going to work. I'm not saying it's good play but mafia would do anything but claim mafia. You could be SK and in that case I still need to find 2 scum and you can't be trusted. There for, lynch you today and ignore you while I find scum to lynch tomorrow. | ||
Vivax
Austria20868 Posts
1. Debears is town cause why the fuck would he shoot Toad. 2. Morbidius is scum for believing the opposite WIFOM-version of yours and putting suspicion on him + you say that's a townie thing to do (use /sarcasm cause I'm not sure here) 3. Morbidius, me and stutters are suddenly scum in the case of a dumb scum team,but debears is not? 4. So, did you look into Promethelax and Eywa? | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:49 Vivax wrote: Let me summarize what's written there: 1. Debears is town cause why the fuck would he shoot Toad. 2. Morbidius is scum for believing the opposite WIFOM-version of yours and putting suspicion on him + you say that's a townie thing to do (use /sarcasm cause I'm not sure here) 3. Morbidius, me and stutters are suddenly scum in the case of a dumb scum team,but debears is not? 4. So, did you look into Promethelax and Eywa? do you read? at all? | ||
Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
debears (10) - iamperfection, yamato77, Morbidius, Palmar, wherebugsgo, sciberbia, Eywa-, Promethelax, Morbidius, Vivax Morbidius (1) - Stutters695 Currently debears is set to be lynched. Deadline is in about 2 hours. If anyone's vote isn't in the right place, let me know. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: debears After dibbers, Ewya has to be the next target. Not that we need more ammo against him to lynch him but this quote of his doesn't sit well with me either "Yeah, if Parlar doesn't die today then the town should probably just forfeit." | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:11 yamato77 wrote: Also your argument is basically you look like you are bad because everyone else is bad. You sound like me in my newbie game and I got rightly told how wrong I was for that when I did it. So quit it. If you're actually town you need to prove it so I don't have to consider you as a potential scum. Instead you give a bullshit excuse for your play so far. If we are so bad and you are so good you should be able to nail the scum team. So do it. I don't have to prove anything, given that there is no reason at all to call me scum. No one has made a case that makes any sense at all. The entire case is that "your play looks bad" which is subjective and it's not even correct. Besides, even if I am playing badly, playing badly is not ever alignment indicative. That's why it's so fucking hard to get a read on bad players, because they'll do wildly unexpected things as either alignment. I haven't done anything wildly unexpected as far as I can tell. It's just extremely frustrating when I am repeatedly asked to explain things that I have already explained multiple times. My biggest annoyance in mafia games is when people don't do the most basic of things: READING THE THREAD. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Or are you just not reading the thread? | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
It's a fucking process of elimination, it doesn't take a genius to see that scum absolutely suck nards this game. If we are to take claims at face value then the remaining scum are pigeonholed. We just lynch through several players in order and autowin the game. If we don't take the claims at face value then it's either because we flipped a townie or it's because we have a very strong reason to believe that the claims aren't true, i.e. at this point a counterclaim. Given that no one can explain to me how either stutters or eywa is town, the easiest path of action is just to kill them both after debears. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:55 yamato77 wrote: I mean, you do realize that you're a potential lynch candidate right? So if you are town don't you want to prove it instead of letting us think about lynching you? Or are you just not reading the thread? I am completely fine with getting lynched because it will probably teach a lesson to you all in how to not suck at this game. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Vivax
Austria20868 Posts
Rereading... | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 24 2012 07:02 Vivax wrote: Hmm you are right, you updated your read about debears later on. When Palmar voted for him after you said you'd lynch him he panicked and claimed vig. Rereading... thank you, maybe there is hope left in this game after all. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:55 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2012 06:11 yamato77 wrote: Also your argument is basically you look like you are bad because everyone else is bad. You sound like me in my newbie game and I got rightly told how wrong I was for that when I did it. So quit it. If you're actually town you need to prove it so I don't have to consider you as a potential scum. Instead you give a bullshit excuse for your play so far. If we are so bad and you are so good you should be able to nail the scum team. So do it. I don't have to prove anything, given that there is no reason at all to call me scum. No one has made a case that makes any sense at all. The entire case is that "your play looks bad" which is subjective and it's not even correct. Besides, even if I am playing badly, playing badly is not ever alignment indicative. That's why it's so fucking hard to get a read on bad players, because they'll do wildly unexpected things as either alignment. I haven't done anything wildly unexpected as far as I can tell. It's just extremely frustrating when I am repeatedly asked to explain things that I have already explained multiple times. My biggest annoyance in mafia games is when people don't do the most basic of things: READING THE THREAD. My case on you being scum is that you opposed the wiggles lynch, which I pointed out at the time as a suspicious move. Then early day 2 you oppose the debears lynch because of some WIFOM about the NK and shit which I thought was incredibly dumb at the time. Sciberbia did a good job pointing out what you said as not strong. Then you change your read on debears right before he makes his claim plays based on a list reads post and more WIFOM about the NK on Toad. I don't have any reason to believe your role block claim. More WIFOM from you. You have literally done nothing for me to think you're town. You thinking so is just posturing. You're not a bad player by your own admittance so why act this way in the middle of the game? You're just trying to defend yourself with this shit. Shut up and find scum or you get lynched. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2012 06:55 yamato77 wrote: I mean, you do realize that you're a potential lynch candidate right? So if you are town don't you want to prove it instead of letting us think about lynching you? Or are you just not reading the thread? I am completely fine with getting lynched because it will probably teach a lesson to you all in how to not suck at this game. That post is was @Stutters but thanks for replying as to your mentality at the moment. Debears has 11 votes on him and you feel guilty enough to post all this defensive shit. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 24 2012 07:06 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2012 06:55 wherebugsgo wrote: On December 24 2012 06:11 yamato77 wrote: Also your argument is basically you look like you are bad because everyone else is bad. You sound like me in my newbie game and I got rightly told how wrong I was for that when I did it. So quit it. If you're actually town you need to prove it so I don't have to consider you as a potential scum. Instead you give a bullshit excuse for your play so far. If we are so bad and you are so good you should be able to nail the scum team. So do it. I don't have to prove anything, given that there is no reason at all to call me scum. No one has made a case that makes any sense at all. The entire case is that "your play looks bad" which is subjective and it's not even correct. Besides, even if I am playing badly, playing badly is not ever alignment indicative. That's why it's so fucking hard to get a read on bad players, because they'll do wildly unexpected things as either alignment. I haven't done anything wildly unexpected as far as I can tell. It's just extremely frustrating when I am repeatedly asked to explain things that I have already explained multiple times. My biggest annoyance in mafia games is when people don't do the most basic of things: READING THE THREAD. My case on you being scum is that you opposed the wiggles lynch, which I pointed out at the time as a suspicious move. Then early day 2 you oppose the debears lynch because of some WIFOM about the NK and shit which I thought was incredibly dumb at the time. Sciberbia did a good job pointing out what you said as not strong. Then you change your read on debears right before he makes his claim plays based on a list reads post and more WIFOM about the NK on Toad. I don't have any reason to believe your role block claim. More WIFOM from you. You have literally done nothing for me to think you're town. You thinking so is just posturing. You're not a bad player by your own admittance so why act this way in the middle of the game? You're just trying to defend yourself with this shit. Shut up and find scum or you get lynched. when was the last time you saw a scum oppose a lynch on another scum, that was virtually unopposed otherwise? Also I never admitted shit about my own skill level. I play mafia to get better at the game, and I've had some pretty bad games myself. | ||
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