On January 16 2013 01:47 Diabulus wrote: Oo how can you say Episode 1 is a bad movie? Anything made by George Lucas, even a porno, would be 10 stars/ 10 from me -.-
Now I really want to see a porno directed by George Lucas. l000000000000l
I really should try this though. Never did like the cliffhanger ending in episode V.
On January 16 2013 01:41 crms wrote: I think this could be a fun weekend adventure, might even get my fiance to actually watch the new episodes, she refuses right now.
Mostly though this article just reminded me of the worst part of episode I, no not the pod racing (awful) or jarjar binks (dreadful) My worst moments were, Darth Maul. He was supposed to be so badass, a straight up killer, untouchable fighter and then he fell down a shaft...I've never recovered from the injustice that was Darth Mauls portrayl in Episode 1.
Haha you make his death sound even more lame than it was. He didn't just trip and fall into a shaft and die, he was bisected with a saber thrust he could've seen coming for several seconds.
Inb4 rewrite of Darth Maul tripping on an edge and falling down the shaft screaming, "Damn you kids!"
On January 16 2013 03:58 meadbert wrote: I totally agree with this post, although I do not advocate skipping episode 1.
451236 is the correct order.
can you give an actual purpose to watching ep1? there's nothing added to the series other than an abysmal and annoying frog thing and some races. I'd like to skip ep2 as well but there's actually some shit that goes on there.
On January 16 2013 01:54 Thallis wrote: Why would you ever subject yourself to the horror that was Episode 2? The best way to watch star wars is 4, 5, 6. There's no point to watching the prequels unless you want a plot that makes no sense at all, no defined main characters, shallow and emotionless romance, incredibly implausible chases, and worst of all, the destruction of Yoda and the Force.
Also Attack of the Clones is much, much worse than Phantom Menace.
Agreed, even if we get the backstory why Yoda is a reclusive in a svamp in Ep. IV, it does not outweight the awfulness that is Ep. I, II and III. If you haven't watched I, II and III, don't do it, they ruin the whole series.
My girlfriend through more than 7 years (who just broke up with me recently ) had never seen them... It took me ~6 years to convince her that they were actually worth watching.
We saw them I - VI though. She loved it... She pointed out how great the old trilogy actually was considering it's 30years old
On January 16 2013 03:58 meadbert wrote: I totally agree with this post, although I do not advocate skipping episode 1.
451236 is the correct order.
can you give an actual purpose to watching ep1? there's nothing added to the series other than an abysmal and annoying frog thing and some races. I'd like to skip ep2 as well but there's actually some shit that goes on there.
To be fair... It's not a totally worthless episode... You get to know Obi-Wan's relationship to Qui-Gon, Padmé and lil' boy Ani. You even get to experience him being all nifty and engineery and a born pilot... Plus the whole encounter and history between Padmé and Anakin is kindda what starts to fuck up everything later on
It would have been a lot easier if George Lucas had only been smart enough to edit Episode III a little better.
These are the only changes that needed to be made:
- Palpatine never refers to Anakin as Darth Vader, instead just calling him Anakin - after Anakin loses to Obi-Wan on the lava planet, the viewer is left to conclude that he dies of his wounds there - at the end of the movie, we are introduced to Darth Vader for the first time as a new character; Palpatine addresses him as his new apprentice
These changes wouldn't affect the viewing for most people, but for future generations who wish to watch the episodes in order, this would preserve the plot twist of Darth Vader = Luke's father.
On January 16 2013 03:58 meadbert wrote: I totally agree with this post, although I do not advocate skipping episode 1.
451236 is the correct order.
can you give an actual purpose to watching ep1? there's nothing added to the series other than an abysmal and annoying frog thing and some races. I'd like to skip ep2 as well but there's actually some shit that goes on there.
i agree with the original comment on ep1 resembling something more like an 'extended' universe piece. its true most of the movie stands by itself rather than directly affecting the rest of the movies. the only notable things that lead into the other films are anakin's love for his mother, obiwan's relationship with anakin, introduction into the split in the council.
as a movie itself its full of other great stories. its a good (not the "best") scifi romp.
imo there's no way you can recommend ep4 and turn around and lambaste ep1. in ep4 you are thrown into the storyline with zero understanding of any of the backplot. the "force" is never really explained aside from "its there" and "jedi use it". darth vader is barely characterized in the movie aside from being the bad guy with immense unexplained power. the entire movie is basically 2.5 acts, a short introduction of luke, the main storyling of rescuing leia, and then destroying the deathstar. nothing is ever truly explained. ep4 is just as garbage as ep1 if you want to define it on the grand scale of the star wars story. ep4 can be a good movie if you like explosions and lasers and all that jazz people in the 70s loved.
imo there's no way you can recommend ep4 and turn around and lambaste ep1. in ep4 you are thrown into the storyline with zero understanding of any of the backplot. the "force" is never really explained aside from "its there" and "jedi use it". darth vader is barely characterized in the movie aside from being the bad guy with immense unexplained power. the entire movie is basically 2.5 acts, a short introduction of luke, the main storyling of rescuing leila, and then destroying the deathstar. nothing is ever truly explained. ep4 is just as garbage as ep1 if you want to define it on the grand scale of the star wars story. ep4 can be a good movie if you like explosions and lasers and all that jazz people in the 70s loved.
That's how pretty much all "first" entries that introduce a larger universe are. By "first" I don't mean chronologically within the series but "first" as in the first one created by the author. Look at The Hobbit, for example. The ring is never really explained other than that it grants invisibility; all we know about Sauron (we don't even know his name) is that he's some shadowy necromancer type. Episode IV really works by itself as a stand-alone, and it worked pretty well as a jumping-off point for decades before the prequel trilogy was made.
On January 16 2013 04:37 Warlock40 wrote: It would have been a lot easier if George Lucas had only been smart enough to edit Episode III a little better.
These are the only changes that needed to be made:
- Palpatine never refers to Anakin as Darth Vader, instead just calling him Anakin - after Anakin loses to Obi-Wan on the lava planet, the viewer is left to conclude that he dies of his wounds there - at the end of the movie, we are introduced to Darth Vader for the first time as a new character; Palpatine addresses him as his new apprentice
These changes wouldn't affect the viewing for most people, but for future generations who wish to watch the episodes in order, this would preserve the plot twist of Darth Vader = Luke's father.
I really like those ideas and think it would be a really cool way to hype up the reveal in episode 6
On January 16 2013 04:41 Warlock40 wrote: That's how pretty much all "first" entries that introduce a larger universe are. By "first" I don't mean chronologically within the series but "first" as in the first one created by the author. Look at The Hobbit, for example. The ring is never really explained other than that it grants invisibility; all we know about Sauron (we don't even know his name) is that he's some shadowy necromancer type. Episode IV really works by itself as a stand-alone, and it worked pretty well as a jumping-off point for decades before the prequel trilogy was made.
tangent: In the Hobbit I don't even think it's revealed that the necromancer is Sauron, just something of great evil. It's been a while since I've read it so apologies if I'm wrong.
On January 16 2013 03:58 meadbert wrote: I totally agree with this post, although I do not advocate skipping episode 1.
451236 is the correct order.
can you give an actual purpose to watching ep1? there's nothing added to the series other than an abysmal and annoying frog thing and some races. I'd like to skip ep2 as well but there's actually some shit that goes on there.