Age of Empires II HD Edition - Page 8
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On March 11 2013 09:02 Shai wrote: GRAAAAAH. HD means high definition. It means no jagged lines due to low resolutions. It does NOT mean high polygon. Metal Gear Solid 2 HD is the same as Metal Gear Solid 2 except no jagged lines, no-one complained about that. I don't understand why there's so much misunderstanding on this being an HD rerelease and not a remake. The Halo: Anniversary Edition kind of set a new standard for HD editions of old games, to be honest. 20 EUR for a game as old as Age of Empires 2 is a lot of money. That said, it is arguably the best RTS I have ever played. | ||
Bluejava
Sweden135 Posts
I still think it's good that they release it on steam as I play it from time to time. More hyped for this than the online thingy haha | ||
Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On March 10 2013 23:33 Kaal wrote: lol untold more players. The biggest issue is that there won't be matchmaking for Forgotten Empires, which pretty much everyone plays now. Years of work by most of the pros and modders isn't going to go to waste for easier matchmaking (AoFE already has better graphics/resolutions, the only thing that really looks much better in HD is the water), which is the only thing most players care about. People will probably stay on GR/GAR/Voobly. Was going to make a big post on this but i'll just do bullet points - Forgotten empires can be converted over to the HD edition as its on the steam workshop. - The game WILL sell, probably upwards of 20k copies minimum i would say. - The people who buy WILL play the game, it will draw in a much bigger crowd then Aoe2 has now (which is a few hundred players max?) - Any small community like this would jump at the chance of increased numbers, with FE being converted to steams workshop i dont see a big problem here. Obviously your looking at conversion time + Converting players from the standard game but its a hell of alot more promising then what they previously had. | ||
Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On March 11 2013 09:20 Zrana wrote: Does anyone know a good place to find basic info on gameplay for aoe2? I mean stuff like unit control tips, build orders or general priorities of what's most important to mine/produce at various stages in the game? I did play it when i was younger but it was a while ago and i'm pretty certain i wasnt very good. Are there camera location hotkeys? Can you bind buildings to hotkeys? Also i heard something about there being no true a-move - how does that work? I'm looking for the same thing. Coming from BW and SC2 (the only RTS games I've played somewhat extensively), it's weird coming to another RTS which doesn't seem to have the same resources (teamliquid obviously being incredible). Other than the stuff you mentioned, I would love to find some articles/guides concerning build orders, and something which would be cool to read is if someone who played AoE2 on a decently competitive level could compare their thought process to how it is in SC. AoE2 seems like a game where macro and mechanics are very important just like in SC, so it would be cool to get an overview perspective on how an SC player should go into AoE2, what to focus on if you want to improve, research timings etc. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17050 Posts
Free, multi-platform, open source. And you can download and have fun in the alpha too. | ||
Kaal
Djibouti2213 Posts
On March 11 2013 19:22 Capped wrote: Was going to make a big post on this but i'll just do bullet points - Forgotten empires can be converted over to the HD edition as its on the steam workshop. - The game WILL sell, probably upwards of 20k copies minimum i would say. - The people who buy WILL play the game, it will draw in a much bigger crowd then Aoe2 has now (which is a few hundred players max?) - Any small community like this would jump at the chance of increased numbers, with FE being converted to steams workshop i dont see a big problem here. Obviously your looking at conversion time + Converting players from the standard game but its a hell of alot more promising then what they previously had. Even if it sells I doubt we'll get many players for more than like... 6 months, then the community will go back to normal size. Honestly I don't think anyone really cares about growing AoE 2 hugely, we're a decent size community that's been alive and solid for 15 years, we're not dieing off like WC2, and nobody that hasn't played before wants to play a 15 year old game even if it is better than the current generation, if they did people would still be playing BW instead of SC2. During CL when most people are active we probably have around 2-3k~ on at primetime. Usually it's around 1k-1.5k, and it's been that way for 6-7 years. Even if FE does go on Steam Workshop, the developer will have to code in additional matchmaking just for FE. ALSO, the cheat detection will be a huge deal, voobly and GR ladders have excellent cheat detect tools but we've heard nothing from the studio about this, it was brought up multiple times in beta but they were just like oh we have plans and we'll implement it, but the last build I played almost a month ago I could use every well known MH and macro without being detected. It's stupid. For the two people who asked about what do I do how to I play, there's an excellent guide here: http://www.aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?f=186&t=30587&sid=b8c7aa602718952d328721a7eb47813b, and many other excellent articles in our article section at AoCzone if someone who played AoE2 on a decently competitive level could compare their thought process to how it is in SC. Chris, a ten year veteran and probably the most legendary AoC player, wrote this about how he plays against different players and how that made him a better player http://www.aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?f=186&t=27118 One of the biggest differences is map emphases. Each map type is scripted, with UserScripts, to generate about 5 million different map types, so there isn't really a way to practice a specific strategy on a specific map, each game is different and you will probably never play the same game twice. This is extremely different from the BW equivalent. As for build orders and whatnot... for the most part there are some general orders out there for stuff like Feudal Rush and whatnot but since every map is random. Lumi has a nice guide to frushing here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjj8qHKcBcQ, and it has some general game tips. TBH the best way to learn is just to play. There are commentaries of pros like Daut, Chris, Viper, Tim, Brian out there, those are good to watch. AoCZone has an enormous replay depot that almost every pro uploads his games to. Check that shit out. | ||
fifasnipe2224
United States243 Posts
4 pack per-orders don't get the early access?! WHY!? | ||
VelRa_G
Canada304 Posts
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
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Kring
Portugal70 Posts
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
Never really played AoE competitively but I spent a ton of time playing AoE II as a kid. It would be great to try and learn it this time around. :D :D | ||
fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On March 11 2013 20:11 Manit0u wrote: Why buy it when you can play this for free? It's still in alpha but hopefully they'll make it to the release (last update was today so they're definitely still working on it). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_xDEJrf6q4 Free, multi-platform, open source. And you can download and have fun in the alpha too. Because that game isn't AoE2? | ||
Taku
Canada2036 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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Derity
Germany2951 Posts
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[TyRanT]TheViper
Norway9 Posts
Age of Empires hasn't been dead at all, there are thousands playing it every day, and many, like myself, still at a competetive level ^^ Will without doubt buy this! If anyone wishes to see how the game is played on a high level today, I do live streams quite often at my twitch channel: http://www.twitch.tv/tyrant_theviper. I have also started a Youtube channel where I will be moving some twitch videos as well as creating tutorials, guides, with hints and tips in the upcoming time with the AOE2HD coming out. If anyone is looking to learn or refresh some Age of Empires before the release, feel free to join in there: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheViperAOC Other good channels on Youtube for Age of Empires II are ZeroEmpires and BBQTurkman. And if anyone wishes to join the current community, check out www.Aoczone.net and www.Voobly.com! | ||
endy
Switzerland8966 Posts
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