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On April 24 2013 06:47 xtruder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:39 Whitewing wrote:How many other players registered and checked in ahead of time but didn't get a spot? I don't know but there's been Koreans who were checked in AFTER everyone else checked in and still got in.
proof plox?
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I think investing in China is a huge opportunity for Blizzard and eSports as a a whole. They should really be receiving more attention and resources.
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On April 24 2013 07:46 SCM.geauxsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:47 xtruder wrote:On April 24 2013 06:39 Whitewing wrote:How many other players registered and checked in ahead of time but didn't get a spot? I don't know but there's been Koreans who were checked in AFTER everyone else checked in and still got in. proof plox? If I remember correctly there were 64 seeded slots within the qualifiers.
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Great article, Blizzard really need to carefully choose the broadcasting companies they work with.
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In hindsight, it is very obvious that MLG should have directly seeded pro players into the bracket, or had at the least had priority registration for people above a certain threshold on the ladder.
However, the rules were very clearly laid out: your place in the bracket is determined by registration. I noticed and understood this rule even though I never had the slightest intention of registering. Yes, MLG absolutely should have done things differently from the beginning. Pro players should be on the ball enough to not get spots sniped out from under them by random players; registration did not fill in minutes, it filled in hours.
People are treating this like some conspiracy against Chinese pros, when it really wasn't... they just weren't there to sign up as registration opened. Maybe you can blame time zones, maybe you can blame a language barrier, but ultimately I think you have to blame the players for not understanding the rules and ESPECIALLY their teams for not conveying the rules to them.
OTOH, the DQ of Comm is just plain silly. Yeah, he broke a rule, but it's a rule that really, really did not need to be followed to the letter in this case.
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On April 24 2013 07:49 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:46 SCM.geauxsu wrote:On April 24 2013 06:47 xtruder wrote:On April 24 2013 06:39 Whitewing wrote:How many other players registered and checked in ahead of time but didn't get a spot? I don't know but there's been Koreans who were checked in AFTER everyone else checked in and still got in. proof plox? If I remember correctly there were 64 seeded slots within the qualifiers.
Umm ok what does that have to do with Koreans showing up late and still being allowed to enter? That's what I want proof of.
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On April 24 2013 07:46 SCM.geauxsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:47 xtruder wrote:On April 24 2013 06:39 Whitewing wrote:How many other players registered and checked in ahead of time but didn't get a spot? I don't know but there's been Koreans who were checked in AFTER everyone else checked in and still got in. proof plox?
MLG Adam tweeted at TL saying that Zenio wasn't checked in, the hour of the tweet is after the hours of the messages between the Chinese players and the admins.
Edit:
Tweet at 22:26:
Conversation between Chinese players and admins at 22:17: http://bbs.neotv.cn/data/attachment/forum/201304/21/044026usjmh8va8kccnaav.jpg
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On April 24 2013 07:51 SCM.geauxsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:49 EtherealDeath wrote:On April 24 2013 07:46 SCM.geauxsu wrote:On April 24 2013 06:47 xtruder wrote:On April 24 2013 06:39 Whitewing wrote:How many other players registered and checked in ahead of time but didn't get a spot? I don't know but there's been Koreans who were checked in AFTER everyone else checked in and still got in. proof plox? If I remember correctly there were 64 seeded slots within the qualifiers. Umm ok what does that have to do with Koreans showing up late and still being allowed to enter? That's what I want proof of. Well, this is not anything I know the specifics about, however if they were seeded then I'm sure they didn't need to be one of the first to check in. They just needed to sign in and check in before the tournament starts. That would make the most sense to me. If they had to be among the first 512 then it wouldn't really make sense because they are seeded... Their spots can't get given away.
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On April 24 2013 06:29 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:27 Liman wrote: Putting all aside I think Chinese government internet policies are cause of some problems here,this must not be forgotten. MLG screw up badly. Nothing to do with government policy here. censorship = no global play = might have to borrow someone else's account
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They will do it better next time, don't worry. By not publically tweeting things like that and instead doing it privately so we can't find out that they've just screwed over Chinese (and others) at the expense of massive favouratism to TL and the other big names.
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tyty! That's all I needed.
On April 24 2013 07:53 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:51 SCM.geauxsu wrote:On April 24 2013 07:49 EtherealDeath wrote:On April 24 2013 07:46 SCM.geauxsu wrote:On April 24 2013 06:47 xtruder wrote:On April 24 2013 06:39 Whitewing wrote:How many other players registered and checked in ahead of time but didn't get a spot? I don't know but there's been Koreans who were checked in AFTER everyone else checked in and still got in. proof plox? If I remember correctly there were 64 seeded slots within the qualifiers. Umm ok what does that have to do with Koreans showing up late and still being allowed to enter? That's what I want proof of. Well, this is not anything I know the specifics about, however if they were seeded then I'm sure they didn't need to be one of the first to check in. They just needed to sign in and check in before the tournament starts. That would make the most sense to me. If they had to be among the first 512 then it wouldn't really make sense because they are seeded... Their spots can't get given away.
I figured the poster who I was originally replying to meant open bracket players, I wasn't really thinking about seeded players. I see your point tho
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apparently jim was rank 1 kr gm. he would have qualified easily.
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China is almost as big as the US at this point, they could just make their own China only tournament right? Or would Blizzard sue them?
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Fenrax
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Holy Fuck!
This is a "fuck you China" from MLG and cannot be done with just an apology. Amends have to be made and they have to have substance.
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Again, check-in time was irrelevant. If a player checked in at all, even if it was seconds before check-in closed, then they had the possibility to be entered into the bracket. Whether they made it in depended on registration time.
I don't know if there were some pro players given exceptions, but even some silver scrub could have checked in after the Chinese players and gotten in above them, provided the silver scrub had registered before them.
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On April 24 2013 07:59 SCM.geauxsu wrote:tyty! That's all I needed. Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:53 Shinta) wrote:On April 24 2013 07:51 SCM.geauxsu wrote:On April 24 2013 07:49 EtherealDeath wrote:On April 24 2013 07:46 SCM.geauxsu wrote:On April 24 2013 06:47 xtruder wrote:On April 24 2013 06:39 Whitewing wrote:How many other players registered and checked in ahead of time but didn't get a spot? I don't know but there's been Koreans who were checked in AFTER everyone else checked in and still got in. proof plox? If I remember correctly there were 64 seeded slots within the qualifiers. Umm ok what does that have to do with Koreans showing up late and still being allowed to enter? That's what I want proof of. Well, this is not anything I know the specifics about, however if they were seeded then I'm sure they didn't need to be one of the first to check in. They just needed to sign in and check in before the tournament starts. That would make the most sense to me. If they had to be among the first 512 then it wouldn't really make sense because they are seeded... Their spots can't get given away. I figured the poster who I was originally replying to meant open bracket players, I wasn't really thinking about seeded players. I see your point tho I meant I recall there being 64 seeded spots within the 512 person open bracket, many of those slots going to known Koreans, so they were guaranteed a spot regardless of signup time.
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The rules mention that if there are more than 512 players, it's first come first served based on registration time, not check-in time. My question for MLG - there were 64 reserved slots for the qualifier. Who were they assigned to? These chinese players should have received them (assuming they did register too late).
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Very good write-up, thanks for the backstory.
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How do this contribute to what the OP is trying to accomplish? The Chinese players are mature enough to over look all this, and only ask for future cooperation between Chinese Esport and mlg/blizzard by letting the western world understand what's going on in the Chinese scene so there would be a mutual understanding instead of bigotry. Time to put down the torches and rebuild over the ashes of this fail.
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On April 24 2013 08:01 Fenrax wrote:Holy Fuck! This is a "fuck you China" from MLG and cannot be done with just an apology. Amends have to be made and they have to have substance.
Not like MLG Admins haven't shown favoritism before. I've read quite a few blogs where players have voiced their anxieties with regard to similar situations when it came to showing up on-time/late and receiving information.
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