Or is it the MLG dallas format from last year?
Will extended series be returning?
Edit: I guess it must be 2 64 man brackets
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Wodger
Scotland380 Posts
Or is it the MLG dallas format from last year? Will extended series be returning? Edit: I guess it must be 2 64 man brackets | ||
Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:09 teddyoojo wrote: i call it now, mlg winner: huk I doubt it, Tier 1 WCS status should be enough, to pull some decent koreans/euros and Huk is not consistent enough atm, to go through numerous rounds of play. He could probably be a favorite killer in this tourney, but not a favorite himself. I´m a bit worried for MLG´s viewer numbers in this, in 2010 they were "the thing" in the foreign scene, in 2011 they were the first with koreans, in 2012/2013 they had massive prize-pools and payed flights. Now the Prize-pool is at a level with tourneys like HSC, IEM or Dreamhack , which will probably destroy MLG in production value (1 stream etc.). | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51342 Posts
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m0ck
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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ThisIsJimmy
United States546 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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Qwyn
United States2778 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:07 SCST wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2013 01:05 Qwyn wrote: Oh my god. It breaks my heart to see all these complaints regarding another tourney which MLG is willingly setting up with a $25k (that's not a small number in any regard, face it our community has been spoiled) prizepool... Utterly pathetic by MLG. Disgusted by this . . . please fire them Blizzard. For the love of God, can't you see these guys don't give a shit about Starcraft anymore? Hire/support NASL for a big event, even WCS - at least it's clear they cared. This is rediculous. The fact that they are establishing an open despite being constricted by the WCS system? If there is anyone you should lather this toxicity on it's the WCS system itself, not MLG. The only valid complaint here IMO is the lack of partner streams for the lower rounds. Done right and it's a lot of great content <3. Again settling. It's a massive downgrade from previous productions. WCS should have little to no bearing on this whatsoever. Please explain how WCS has an effect on MLG choosing to lower their prize pool massively and cut their streamed games to just 25? You're an anonymous person on the internet. This content is free to you. Completely free. MLG doesn't gain anything from this. It's still not profitable for them to run these sorts of events, let alone break even, why would you expect a massive prizepool for an event that is just a side course to a WCS? I understand your enthusiasm, but right now I think you should take a step back and consider all the scene has accomplished and have been given over the past few years, and at least try to be a bit thankful. This is not such a profitable industry that organizers can afford to put $100k prizepools on the line. Those sorts of numbers are supported by Blizzard. And right now, Bizzard is in complete support of their WCS system. To the point that independant organizers are constricted in their options. To the point...that you should be grateful to see this sort of open. It means that MLG has listened. And although it might not be quite as grand as the stadium filling event which you have fixed in your head, it's a start in the right direction despite obstacles. As I said, the one complaint here that is valid is the lack of partner streams for lower round games. There are plenty of people who would be willing to cast these games out of the pure enthusiasm of their heart. You should recognize the line where complaining ceases to constructive and when it becomes toxic. Saying that MLG is disgusting, that they don't give a shit about SC anymore, and that they are not giving an effort despite prepping for a 128 man open with a $25k pool in addition to the burden of WCS, which in fact charts the course MLG and ever othery partner organizer will take as per their agreement, and limits the options of every other independant organizer, is toxic. I'm just suggesting that you try to tone it down a bit and be grateful for all the free content you have recieved and will continue to recieve because of other people's sacrifice and passionate support. | ||
Sirrush
Netherlands165 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: It seems plausible that MLG does not see the same value in their events with WCS having such a big impact on the scene. They used to invest a lot into make their events happen. In case they feel they can't get the same out of them anymore then they aren't able to continue to invest money the same way either. It's not like you can actually blame MLG for that it may just be a completely justified response to the new landscape. Hopefully they manage to figure out a way to go back to their old production and player support. It's a valid concern, but I can't help but wonder if doing a downsized event to "test the waters again", so to speak, is the way to go. Are we just going to end up with a "See, we totally knew that was going to happen" situation if viewer numbers turn out to be lower exactly because of the decreased production, prize pool, etc.? | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: It seems plausible that MLG does not see the same value in their events with WCS having such a big impact on the scene. They used to invest a lot into make their events happen. In case they feel they can't get the same out of them anymore then they aren't able to continue to invest money the same way either. It's not like you can actually blame MLG for that it may just be a completely justified response to the new landscape. Hopefully they manage to figure out a way to go back to their old production and player support. Agreed Nazgul. They need to invest money in WCS as well as their standard MLG events and its not like they have unlimited cash to begin with. I would rather see them focus their time and money on a functional studio and production for WCS, rather going all out with 14 streams for MLG. I barely have time to watch one stream. | ||
sitromit
7051 Posts
Oh, looks like they confirmed on twitter, no trips being funded. Another easy win for Hero or Taeja, I suppose. What a shitty way to follow up the best MLG in recent times. | ||
geokilla
Canada8164 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid? Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment. | ||
Liman
Serbia681 Posts
At least its a chance for NA players to get some exposure. | ||
Shiori
3815 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid? Oh, looks like they confirmed on twitter, no trips being funded. Another easy win for Hero or Taeja, I suppose. What a shitty way to follow up the best MLG in recent times. Ugh, I really hope not. That would really delegitimize the competition a lot. | ||
sitromit
7051 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid? Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment. We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers? | ||
THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
I can't say I like that. | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line That was a given though for all majors. On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote: On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid? Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment. We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers? I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:45 StarStruck wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line That was a given though for all majors. Show nested quote + On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote: On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote: On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid? Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment. We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers? I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well. I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage. | ||
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