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On June 14 2013 04:02 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 03:52 Sandster wrote:On June 14 2013 03:48 Mensol wrote:On June 14 2013 03:45 Sandster wrote:On June 14 2013 03:43 Mensol wrote: is renekton worth to open? i'm not sure if i should open him. Do you mean pick early? He's a pretty safe pick, since there are very few champions that counter him. There are a lot of champions that outscale him though, and he has a poor matchup against the new FOTM tops (Kennen Ryze). i mean is he worth to purchase? He's my most played champ, and I think he's really fun. You can't stand there and auto people (unlike Irelia, Jax) but you have ridiculous burst with empowered W and harass potential with double E. In team fights you pop your ult and go ham on their back line, although eventually you can't kill anything by yourself and have to just zone/peel. If you like tanky bruisers that have early lane dominance he's a worthy purchase. He can survive a ton of ganks, and even turn around ganks 1v2 in some cases, because of how strong his ult and empowered Q/W are. EDIT: This is an amazing Renek guide - watch some videos to see if you like the playstyle. http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=54546-imnumerouno-renekton-build-guide dis Sandster noob. SoloRenektonOnly actually has his own Renek thread on TL.
I've thanked him in that thread
But yeah the writer of that is a TL member, which is why I'm so happy to promote that guide!
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Actually can someone explain to me how pink wards detection/ward vision work in and out of brush? I find that I'm constantly confused by why my pink isn't detecting some times and is other times. I'd like to not waste pinks if possible in the future.
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Just like any other thing, it has it's own vision range, obstructed by walls and brushes. It provides detection only in that area (so just like a champion, pink ward sees what's inside the brush when it iself is there, but doesn't see anything there if it's outside that brush; no matter whether you have or don't have vision there by any other means)
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With the new jungle.. i gotta a feeling theres gonna be a lot more solo lane manaless champs. I mean rumble/renekton top... kennen/zed mid...so the jungler can take blues and reds for the first couple trips. And if your jungler gets counter jungled.. GG might as well ff..
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On June 14 2013 04:12 Malphite wrote: With the new jungle.. i gotta a feeling theres gonna be a lot more solo lane manaless champs. I mean rumble/renekton top... kennen/zed mid...so the jungler can take blues and reds for the first couple trips. And if your jungler gets counter jungled.. GG might as well ff..
Well, you'll still be in top lane mostly right? Or do you think you'll transfer solely to the jungle?
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I remember the first time I bought a pink ward was because the other top laner bought one and cleared my ward. I didn't see where he put it down, so I plopped it down where it was in range of the close bush as well as all the way down river. I walked into the bush, didn't see a ward, and I thought AHA! it ran out. Then he just came out of his tri and killed my ward. I was so fucking sad and confused. Definitely on my list of disliked mechanics.
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On June 14 2013 04:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:12 Malphite wrote: With the new jungle.. i gotta a feeling theres gonna be a lot more solo lane manaless champs. I mean rumble/renekton top... kennen/zed mid...so the jungler can take blues and reds for the first couple trips. And if your jungler gets counter jungled.. GG might as well ff.. Well, you'll still be in top lane mostly right? Or do you think you'll transfer solely to the jungle?
top lane is the most fun.. jungler gets no love for ganks and gets shit on when your team is losing.... lose lose situation
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On June 14 2013 04:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:12 Malphite wrote: With the new jungle.. i gotta a feeling theres gonna be a lot more solo lane manaless champs. I mean rumble/renekton top... kennen/zed mid...so the jungler can take blues and reds for the first couple trips. And if your jungler gets counter jungled.. GG might as well ff.. Well, you'll still be in top lane mostly right? Or do you think you'll transfer solely to the jungle?
Is there a joke here because him name is Malphite?
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amirite?
jk TL LoL GD not that low elo
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On June 14 2013 04:37 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 14 2013 04:12 Malphite wrote: With the new jungle.. i gotta a feeling theres gonna be a lot more solo lane manaless champs. I mean rumble/renekton top... kennen/zed mid...so the jungler can take blues and reds for the first couple trips. And if your jungler gets counter jungled.. GG might as well ff.. Well, you'll still be in top lane mostly right? Or do you think you'll transfer solely to the jungle? Is there a joke here because him name is Malphite?
YUP. You got it.
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On June 14 2013 04:33 Amui wrote: I remember the first time I bought a pink ward was because the other top laner bought one and cleared my ward. I didn't see where he put it down, so I plopped it down where it was in range of the close bush as well as all the way down river. I walked into the bush, didn't see a ward, and I thought AHA! it ran out. Then he just came out of his tri and killed my ward. I was so fucking sad and confused. Definitely on my list of disliked mechanics.
Made sense to me tbh. The ward sees invisible things. Why would it see anything outside its vision?
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On June 14 2013 04:52 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:33 Amui wrote: I remember the first time I bought a pink ward was because the other top laner bought one and cleared my ward. I didn't see where he put it down, so I plopped it down where it was in range of the close bush as well as all the way down river. I walked into the bush, didn't see a ward, and I thought AHA! it ran out. Then he just came out of his tri and killed my ward. I was so fucking sad and confused. Definitely on my list of disliked mechanics.
Made sense to me tbh. The ward sees invisible things. Why would it see anything outside its vision?
The idea is that if you reveal a normally "unseeable" area that's still in the ward's vision, it's true sight should extend to there because it's still in range.
Edit: A comparison - it's like the Pink Ward never turns on Allied vision, but you do.
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Tiptoe seems pretty balanced to me. If it lets you get say... a flash worth of distance in invisibility its ok. Maybe less. As an alternative to flash it sounds cool but a game with both flash + tiptoe sounds miserable.
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On June 14 2013 05:04 TheLink wrote: Tiptoe sounds pretty balanced to me. If it lets you get say... a flash worth of distance in invisibility it sounds ok. Maybe less. As an alternative to flash it sounds cool but a game with both flash + tiptoe sounds miserable.
On a completely unrelated note, now I really want to make a jungle Eve montage to the sound of "Tiptoe Through the Tulips."
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Damn, just quoted me before I could edit out the fact I wrote "sound" a million times in 2 lines. #postperfectionist
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Aatrox is available in the store
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On June 14 2013 05:07 TheLink wrote: Damn, just quoted me before I could edit out the fact I wrote "sound" a million times in 2 lines. #postperfectionist
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On June 14 2013 05:07 Dusty wrote: Aatrox is available in the store
Now I know to ban him in the next few ranked games I play.
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On June 14 2013 04:52 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:33 Amui wrote: I remember the first time I bought a pink ward was because the other top laner bought one and cleared my ward. I didn't see where he put it down, so I plopped it down where it was in range of the close bush as well as all the way down river. I walked into the bush, didn't see a ward, and I thought AHA! it ran out. Then he just came out of his tri and killed my ward. I was so fucking sad and confused. Definitely on my list of disliked mechanics.
Made sense to me tbh. The ward sees invisible things. Why would it see anything outside its vision? Because it works like that with shared vision in BW, WC3, SC2, and DotA?
Convention.
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Bought Aatrox, can't use him yet T_T. Want to see how he does in the jungle.
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On June 14 2013 02:16 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 02:04 Gahlo wrote:On June 14 2013 01:52 wei2coolman wrote:On June 14 2013 01:21 Sandster wrote: I think it's funny that's when Jiji's and Hotshot's "perfect play" were never winning lanes. You're just not on dat "perfect level". "Gentlemen, we are going to relentlessly chase perfection, knowing full well we will not catch it, because nothing is perfect. But we are going to relentlessly chase it, because in the process we will catch excellence. I am not remotely interested in just being good." -Vince Lombardi Chasing for perfection is great, but thinking you are anywhere near perfection is just dangerous. I hope they will release a Diana skin, I'll buy that instantly. She is a melee champion, quite popular, and she never had another skin after release in the first place. It's a quote from argueably the best American Football coach ever. He was so baller the championship trohpy is named after him.
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