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Facts:
Oscar for best original screenplay Academy Award for best director Golden Globe for best picture Golden Globe for best director
Directed Argo Wrote Good Will Hunting
Starred in Gigli Starred in Daredevil Starred in Pearl Harbor
Clearly they could have found a better Batman?
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On August 23 2013 22:03 gruff wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 19:30 Telcontar wrote: He's matured into a good director, but I never found him interesting as an actor. He was decent in Argo and The Town, but that's because those roles didn't really require much range. Then again, perhaps that will be the case with Snyder and Goyer's new Batman.
In any case, I was always going to be critical since I believe it's way too soon to bring Batman back to the big screens. It's just a shame that WB are so desperate for the MoS sequel to succeed, and the Justice League movie to happen, that they're disrespecting Nolan's trilogy, which he's strangely partaking in by being executive producer of the sequel. I guess money always talks.
Btw, isn't Affleck like 6'2, and Cavil 6'1? It's going to be a little odd seeing a taller Batman than Superman. Height is not hard to fake in a movie. It's the reason why people think Schwarzenegger is actually tall. If they are going to bother is a different question.
You don't consider 6'2" tall? We're both Scandinavians, but come on, thats taller than just about every single actor. :p
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On August 23 2013 22:06 shabby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 22:03 gruff wrote:On August 23 2013 19:30 Telcontar wrote: He's matured into a good director, but I never found him interesting as an actor. He was decent in Argo and The Town, but that's because those roles didn't really require much range. Then again, perhaps that will be the case with Snyder and Goyer's new Batman.
In any case, I was always going to be critical since I believe it's way too soon to bring Batman back to the big screens. It's just a shame that WB are so desperate for the MoS sequel to succeed, and the Justice League movie to happen, that they're disrespecting Nolan's trilogy, which he's strangely partaking in by being executive producer of the sequel. I guess money always talks.
Btw, isn't Affleck like 6'2, and Cavil 6'1? It's going to be a little odd seeing a taller Batman than Superman. Height is not hard to fake in a movie. It's the reason why people think Schwarzenegger is actually tall. If they are going to bother is a different question. You don't consider 6'2" tall? We're both Scandinavians, but come on, thats taller than just about every single actor. :p
Yeah Arnold certainly isn't short lol. And the fact that he's a big guy helps too.
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On August 23 2013 22:05 Xpace wrote: Facts:
Oscar for best original screenplay Academy Award for best director Golden Globe for best picture Golden Globe for best director
Directed Argo Wrote Good Will Hunting
Starred in Gigli Starred in Daredevil Starred in Pearl Harbor
Clearly they could have found a better Batman? I think there's something else in the deal. It was known that WB wanted Affleck to direct a DC movie for them. With this, they could have signed him on to also direct Justice League or the rebooted Batman movies, which I guess, now he'll star in as well as direct.
I think this is a big step back for Affleck, as well as the Batman franchise. He could've taken his directorial career to new heights off the success of Argo and his previous attempts. Now, he's stuck in a role that will divert a lot of energy and resources from other potential projects. And the franchise has now a mediocre actor to lead it.
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On August 23 2013 22:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 22:06 shabby wrote:On August 23 2013 22:03 gruff wrote:On August 23 2013 19:30 Telcontar wrote: He's matured into a good director, but I never found him interesting as an actor. He was decent in Argo and The Town, but that's because those roles didn't really require much range. Then again, perhaps that will be the case with Snyder and Goyer's new Batman.
In any case, I was always going to be critical since I believe it's way too soon to bring Batman back to the big screens. It's just a shame that WB are so desperate for the MoS sequel to succeed, and the Justice League movie to happen, that they're disrespecting Nolan's trilogy, which he's strangely partaking in by being executive producer of the sequel. I guess money always talks.
Btw, isn't Affleck like 6'2, and Cavil 6'1? It's going to be a little odd seeing a taller Batman than Superman. Height is not hard to fake in a movie. It's the reason why people think Schwarzenegger is actually tall. If they are going to bother is a different question. You don't consider 6'2" tall? We're both Scandinavians, but come on, thats taller than just about every single actor. :p Yeah Arnold certainly isn't short lol. And the fact that he's a big guy helps too. Yeah, I recall Arnie being just shy of 6'2 in his prime days. There's even a record of a measurement they did for a bodybuilding competition he participated in. Of course his body weight would've shrunk him down these days, but he was a tall dude in his youth. I think he's around 6'0 now.
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Batman vs aliens vs predator vs power rangers vs ninja turtles plz
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For me, I honestly do not see the issue with Affleck. Yes, it came as a surprise, but can people try to be civil and see how it actually turns out. Hell, if we can have a batman that is actually understandable and does not need to drink honey tea after every line, I will see it as an improvement. For myself, I think Bale made an amazing Bruce Wayne but batman was disappointing. I think that we will have is maybe a disappointing Bruce Wayne and perhaps an awesome batman.
Regardless though, let us hold back on the torch/pitchfork mob routine and wait until the first video is released. Until then, the people that have raged (and there are many who are) really need to chill.
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On August 23 2013 22:06 shabby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 22:03 gruff wrote:On August 23 2013 19:30 Telcontar wrote: He's matured into a good director, but I never found him interesting as an actor. He was decent in Argo and The Town, but that's because those roles didn't really require much range. Then again, perhaps that will be the case with Snyder and Goyer's new Batman.
In any case, I was always going to be critical since I believe it's way too soon to bring Batman back to the big screens. It's just a shame that WB are so desperate for the MoS sequel to succeed, and the Justice League movie to happen, that they're disrespecting Nolan's trilogy, which he's strangely partaking in by being executive producer of the sequel. I guess money always talks.
Btw, isn't Affleck like 6'2, and Cavil 6'1? It's going to be a little odd seeing a taller Batman than Superman. Height is not hard to fake in a movie. It's the reason why people think Schwarzenegger is actually tall. If they are going to bother is a different question. You don't consider 6'2" tall? We're both Scandinavians, but come on, thats taller than just about every single actor. :p Shorter/smaller than what many people think he is. There's many accounts of people meeting him in real life and being surprised by how small he is compared to their image of him. The actual height wasn't really the point, I just picked him because I've seen quite a few reactions in regards to him before.. Maybe I should have phrased it differently.
On August 23 2013 22:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 22:06 shabby wrote:On August 23 2013 22:03 gruff wrote:On August 23 2013 19:30 Telcontar wrote: He's matured into a good director, but I never found him interesting as an actor. He was decent in Argo and The Town, but that's because those roles didn't really require much range. Then again, perhaps that will be the case with Snyder and Goyer's new Batman.
In any case, I was always going to be critical since I believe it's way too soon to bring Batman back to the big screens. It's just a shame that WB are so desperate for the MoS sequel to succeed, and the Justice League movie to happen, that they're disrespecting Nolan's trilogy, which he's strangely partaking in by being executive producer of the sequel. I guess money always talks.
Btw, isn't Affleck like 6'2, and Cavil 6'1? It's going to be a little odd seeing a taller Batman than Superman. Height is not hard to fake in a movie. It's the reason why people think Schwarzenegger is actually tall. If they are going to bother is a different question. You don't consider 6'2" tall? We're both Scandinavians, but come on, thats taller than just about every single actor. :p Yeah Arnold certainly isn't short lol. And the fact that he's a big guy helps too. I didn't say he was short. And still my original point is still that faking heights in movies is usually not very hard if it bothers them, especially when we are not talking about a huge difference here. Of all the implications of this casting his height is a minor one.
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Bale did such a good job being Batman for Nolan. I haven't seen everything from Affleck, but I'm not sure if he can convey the same aura
I'll give the runner a try before condemning him. But let me say it right now : I have my doubts
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On August 23 2013 23:04 XenOmega wrote: Bale did such a good job being Batman for Nolan. I haven't seen everything from Affleck, but I'm not sure if he can convey the same aura
I'll give the runner a try before condemning him. But let me say it right now : I have my doubts Just keep him in the batman suit and he'll be fine. Even Bale had the range of a tree when he was in the batman persona.
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Anyone not remember the atrocity that was Daredevil? Ben Affleck killed all desire of seeing this movie. IF somehow the movie doesnt bomb (which I think it will now) and Affleck shocks us all with a good performance (like Heath Ledger did with Joker) than I will definitely go see it.
But Im calling it now. Because Affleck is going to be Batman... this movie will most likely tank.
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Hmm, not super pumped.
I think I've just tired of the way DC feels the need to make superhero movies as if they're apologizing the whole time for the fact that it's a comic-book movie. "Look at how grounded in reailty this is! We'll make an entire Superman movie without even really mentioning his name because that would be silly! Why have Gotham City when we can have <insert generic US setting> instead?" Why so serious?
Contrast that with Marvel who is like "oh, giant green monster? Norse god? Fuck it, whatever." They seem to understand that a superhero movie should be fun.
Don't get me wrong, I bonered as hard over the Dark Knight trilogy as anyone, but the shtick did get quite tired by the end. And I was as shocked as anyone to find that I enjoyed Thor more than I enjoyed The Dark Knight Rises.
Forget all of this stuff and just give me a Guillermo Del Toro Dark Knight Returns.
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On August 23 2013 23:14 DyEnasTy wrote: Anyone not remember the atrocity that was Daredevil? Ben Affleck killed all desire of seeing this movie. IF somehow the movie doesnt bomb (which I think it will now) and Affleck shocks us all with a good performance (like Heath Ledger did with Joker) than I will definitely go see it.
But Im calling it now. Because Affleck is going to be Batman... this movie will most likely tank.
Affleck is not the worst part of that movie by far. He is one of the better parts. The movies suffers from shitty pacing, lack of budget and lack of special effects. Also, studio fear of super heroes. You should listen to the directors commentary on it and how they change the costume half was through shooting and then switched it back. You have to remember that this is like 5 minutes after Spiderman 1 was a hit, not the era of Iron Man 2.
Also, Heath Ledger. I will continue to say Heath Ledger and Anne Hathaway as proof that we don’t know who will be a good super hero.
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People have already made up their minds. Afflecks performance will be nitpicked to death and every flaw will be highlighted. If Affleck would have been the one to do the Dark Knight voice he would have been crucified.
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Im out. Sorry but afleck is just not batman. I cant do it. Im out.
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Batman has been done perfectly and portrayed in a realistic way. Batman vs Superman is so far fetched and so silly that im glad Bale kept out. Nolan created a beatiful and realistic portrayal of Batman. There is no way, no how he will ever be close to even touching or breathing on Superman.
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On August 23 2013 23:35 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 23:14 DyEnasTy wrote: Anyone not remember the atrocity that was Daredevil? Ben Affleck killed all desire of seeing this movie. IF somehow the movie doesnt bomb (which I think it will now) and Affleck shocks us all with a good performance (like Heath Ledger did with Joker) than I will definitely go see it.
But Im calling it now. Because Affleck is going to be Batman... this movie will most likely tank. Affleck is not the worst part of that movie by far. He is one of the better parts. The movies suffers from shitty pacing, lack of budget and lack of special effects. Also, studio fear of super heroes. You should listen to the directors commentary on it and how they change the costume half was through shooting and then switched it back. You have to remember that this is like 5 minutes after Spiderman 1 was a hit, not the era of Iron Man 2. Also, Heath Ledger. I will continue to say Heath Ledger and Anne Hathaway as proof that we don’t know who will be a good super hero.
We didn't have mountains of evidence proving that Ledger or Hathaway were shit actors. We had movies that they were good in, but we didn't think they'd translate to into the type of character in these movies. No one accused Ledger of being complete shit before TDK, we all just said "the gay cowboy is going to be the Joker? WTF?"
In this case, we all say "Ben Affleck was complete shit in this and that," and that he has the screen presence of a fly. The only roles Affleck has ever succeeded as are those of a douchebag from Boston (and then he's pretty much just playing himself). Unless Batman is going to come from Boston now, Affleck won't handle the role well. Even in his best movies, he wasn't that good, other actors covered for him (Jeremy Renner in The Town, Matt Damon in GWH, etc.).
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On August 23 2013 20:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:With Ben Affleck as the new Batman, it's abundantly clear that the next Batman movie will be a buddy comedy with Matt Damon as Robin. I can't wait!
I would watch this.
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On August 24 2013 01:23 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 23:35 Plansix wrote:On August 23 2013 23:14 DyEnasTy wrote: Anyone not remember the atrocity that was Daredevil? Ben Affleck killed all desire of seeing this movie. IF somehow the movie doesnt bomb (which I think it will now) and Affleck shocks us all with a good performance (like Heath Ledger did with Joker) than I will definitely go see it.
But Im calling it now. Because Affleck is going to be Batman... this movie will most likely tank. Affleck is not the worst part of that movie by far. He is one of the better parts. The movies suffers from shitty pacing, lack of budget and lack of special effects. Also, studio fear of super heroes. You should listen to the directors commentary on it and how they change the costume half was through shooting and then switched it back. You have to remember that this is like 5 minutes after Spiderman 1 was a hit, not the era of Iron Man 2. Also, Heath Ledger. I will continue to say Heath Ledger and Anne Hathaway as proof that we don’t know who will be a good super hero. We didn't have mountains of evidence proving that Ledger or Hathaway were shit actors. We had movies that they were good in, but we didn't think they'd translate to into the type of character in these movies. No one accused Ledger of being complete shit before TDK, we all just said "the gay cowboy is going to be the Joker? WTF?" In this case, we all say "Ben Affleck was complete shit in this and that," and that he has the screen presence of a fly. The only roles Affleck has ever succeeded as are those of a douchebag from Boston (and then he's pretty much just playing himself). Unless Batman is going to come from Boston now, Affleck won't handle the role well. Even in his best movies, he wasn't that good, other actors covered for him (Jeremy Renner in The Town, Matt Damon in GWH, etc.). Health Ledger was in 10 things I hate about you and A Knights Tale.
Anne Hathaway was in....all Disney movies and the Devil Wears Prada. They both have some pretty bad movies in their past. Ben Affleck has some really good movies in his back pocket and loves comics. I will take someone who loves the role over someone that we all "think" would make a good Batman. I refuse to have Spiderman 3 again, where everyone hated being there.
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It's not screen presence alone that makes Batman, it's getting that 'comes from high society' thing as well. Bale nailed that aspect well, although I'm not sure if it's the subconscious recollection of his Patrick Bateman coming into play.
It's why, for my money a young Clooney could have actually been a good Batman if it wasn't for everything else about those films! Bruce Wayne's public face is that of the debonair playboy, and that kind of actor is perfect for that aspect.
I'm not sure Affleck can nail that aspect of the character, but then again I'm not sure he'll need to.Anyway, for my money it's a cross-over, so there's less need for that kind of expanding on the backgrounds of the characters. Tbh I'm just sick of continual comic book films, would like to see the studios take another risk with some new IPs, like they did with Inception.
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