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On August 12 2007 22:03 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Maybe I should start drinking coffee, grumpy morning. ANYWAYS, rant over, back to trying to find some kind of middle ground.
No. Please stay the same.
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Dear Klockan,
You are a retard.
My regards,
taDa
You don't know shit and clearly never seen a few of BoxeR's pimpest plays where he mm's the shit out of the zergs.
You would be best advised to just let it go because you obviously don't comprehend what I said as a whole.
If asses could talk we'd call you the buttmaster. You are just another newb who clearly doesn't understand SC:BW and you say I'm the illogical one. If I met you at a lan I'd be the first one to smack you over the head and say 'WRONG.
You have no support. You have no proof. Fuck you haven't even played the game and it would be safe to assume the best you could do on ICCUP is D+.
The more there is to do, the more complex a game gets. Understand? Are we making progress? The more concepts you add rather than focusing on just a few = the more skilled involved to play the fucking game. Is this getting through that peanut of a brain of your's? In every sport there is tedious actions. Puck handling with regards to positioning, dribbling while setting up, etc. This is nothing out of the ordinary. Learn to multitask. It isn't my fault you suck.
Micro and Macro at the same time. It's about hand eye coordination, finger speed and multitasking. I'm done with you. Another fag bites the dust.
I have said time and time again adding new features would be a good thing to make the game refreshing, but yes there should be certain limits in certain situations. As the game stands right now the macro/hotkeying needs some tweaking.
The only game you seem to be good at is owning yourself.
Considering you want to go the straw man route.
Let's look at some other assumptions, which gosh oh darnit just might be true and we can compare after, OK?
- I'm smarter than you (Einstein IQ was around 163 from a standardized test he took; I took a similar one and got 156 lulz)
- I have a better understanding of this game than you (9 years help)
- I'm better than you (train up all you want, I haven't played any games in months but I'm almost certain I would mop the floor with you with any race... PM me and I'll show you a thing or two buckeroo)
Last but not least, gosh oh darnit. I'm probably better looking than you. If you want to see some pics visit my page on meetyourmakers. I'm not hard to find.
I'm glad we could clarify that. Don't expect me to respond to any more of your posts like that other fag unless it is a PM for a 1v1 game. I'd like nothing more than schooling your ass in this game and showing you your role in society: on the ground bended over backwards in a vice grip.
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On August 13 2007 01:10 SW)taDa wrote: Dear Klockan,
You are a retard.
My regards,
taDa
You don't know shit and clearly never seen a few of BoxeR's pimpest plays and you would be best advised to just let it go because you obviously don't comprehend what I said as a whole.
If asses could talk we'd call you the buttmaster. You are just another newb who clearly doesn't understand SC:BW and you say I'm illogical. If I met you at a lan I'd be the first one to smack you over the head and say 'WRONG.
You have no support. You have no proof. Fuck you haven't even played the game and the best you could probably do on ICCUP is D+.
The more there is to do, the more complex a game gets. Understand? Are we making progress? The more concepts you add rather than focusing on just a few = more skilled involved. Is this getting through that peanut of a brain of your's? In every sport there is tedious actions. Puck handling with regards to positioning, dribbling while setting up, etc. This is nothing out of the ordinary. Learn to multitask. It isn't my fault you suck.
Micro and Macro at the same time. It's about hand eye coordination, finger speed and multitasking. I'm done with you. Another fag bites the dust.
I have said time and time again adding new features would be a good thing to make the game refreshing, but yes there should be certain limits in certain situations. As the game stands right now the macro/hotkeying needs some tweaking.
The only game you seem to be good at is owning yourself.
You could have made that entire point without making yourself look like a fucking asshole, y'know. Just saying.
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I'm more cynical than Rekrul. Get used to it. U.K. blood go figure. I'm not here to please everybody. I'm here to tell it the way it is.
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On August 13 2007 01:25 SW)taDa wrote: I'm more cynical than Rekrul. Get used to it. U.K. blood go figure. I'm not here to please everybody. I'm here to tell it the way it is.
You're so tough and cool. Striking out at people is pretty awesome dude, I know I was like that when I was ~14. Maybe one day you'll be able to hold a conversation on a forum without viciously lashing out at people who hold a differing opinion
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I also think the tab idea is pretty cool. It would basically be like centering your screen to your gateways and going *click*-z-*click*-z-*click*-d-*click*-d-*click*-t, etc, except it gets rid of the need to center so you can focus on microing during a battle.
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In no way am I trying to impress upon my ideas to retards. My last post was to prove how useless Klockbutt is at life; he has no authority and clearly is delusional. If you are going to talk smack you better back it up with your arguments.
Sometimes you have to put people in their place because they forget their pecking order.
I'm getting to old for this crap.
Mani I need an 'Easy Button' asap ;s Loooove to make a FPVOD of this.
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On August 13 2007 01:10 SW)taDa wrote: SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
Considering you want to go the straw man route.
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You know, you were assuming a lot about me and spewing how shitty i am based on those assumptions, at the same time as you ignore my arguments. Whos created a strawman here? And were did i create a strawman argument instead of refuting your points, were did i say that you fail as a person wich means that all your arguments are moot no matter what?
Also
You don't know shit and clearly never seen a few of BoxeR's pimpest plays where he mm's the shit out of the zergs..
Pardon me, but sure he wasw great and did great deeds, but he never microed perfectly. Even if noone else can do the same the micor wasnt perfect, boxers micro isnt perfect since it can be better. I never said starcraft players had bad micro, just that its impossible to have perfect micro.
And lastly, i have already won this argument, Blizzard have already stated that they will use the wc3 ui enhancements, no matter how much dung you throw i have already won and you just show how much of an asshole you really are. If you are so smart you should know that noone listens to someone who posts with so much frustration as you do.
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On August 12 2007 23:33 sc2rocks wrote: Just focus more on micro if the macro gets too easy? If I wanted to do that I would play warcraft 3.
On August 12 2007 22:58 Klockan3 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2007 22:03 FrozenArbiter wrote:On August 12 2007 15:43 oshibori_probe wrote:On August 12 2007 15:20 Evilmonkey. wrote: Change isn't the fucking issue here, people are just worried because right now macro is way to easy. Every blizzcon goer has stated that being able to hotkey every gateway into one group makes macro almost nonexistent.
People want a new game, but they also want a game thats going to be a challenge. It will be a challenge, use ure brain plz. Go on wc3, play the bnet ladder and with a 60% win average see if the games are challenging are not once u get to a decent level. QUAKE 4 IS ALSO A CHALLENGING GAME BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS FUCKING MACRO. Also I'm so sick and god damn fucking tired of people using retarded mother fucking arguments like 'oh let's make it like war2 where you can't queue units' or saying I'm 'anti-progress' just because I don't want multiple building selection. I've tried to be diplomatic about all this but you know what? >I LIKE THE WAY IT IS IN STARCRAFT< 4z5z6z7z8z9z0z 4r5r6r7r8r9r0r IS FUN TO ME Ugh. Maybe I should start drinking coffee, grumpy morning. ANYWAYS, rant over, back to trying to find some kind of middle ground. Then be happy and play starcraft 1. But ofcourse, sc2 will probably outphase sc1, but there will always be players online in sc1 just like theres always people online playing wc2. This is the evolution of gaming, old features gets streamlined away and new goes in that are overall better. They dont make games like doom2, starcraft, 2d super mario etc, since the market for nostalgia games is way to small, even if they have features that no game today have due to just being old. With new games come new chages, some will like them and others wont, the best way to experience the game of sc1 is to play sc1. Sc1 will still be there but probably not as extensively after sc2 is out. Ugh. To me 4z5z6z7z8z9z0z is a FEATURE, it's a god damn selling point of the game - I don't see why I can't argue for keeping something I *like* in the game without being a 'backwards striving caveman who should stick to sc1'.
I don't think multiple building selection is progress anymore than adding a trampoline to basketball to make sure people like me - not very tall and definitely not good at basketball - can slamdunk like the pros.
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On August 13 2007 01:41 SW)taDa wrote: retards. how useless Klockbutt is at life clearly is delusional.
There you go again. Do you do this in real life? Newsflash: That's not telling it how it is. That's just alienating people for the sake of being a prick, because you think that's pretty cool.
Sometimes you have to put people in their place because they forget their pecking order.
Yeah, you're obviously a notch above these guys. You lead by example, what with getting banned and all.
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Macro is an exiting part of SC. But its hard to learn and nearly impossible to master with the UI SC has. And thats why this game is so competitive. Its not all automatic, you have to actually do something to make macro happen.
SC2 macro right now is pretty much like that of War3: too easy. And that just reduces the game to a constant stale micro war without any kind of room for comebacks in macro. Boooooooring!
Btw SW)taDa your comments are pretty low. Being a dickhead doesnt make your arguments any more valid. Although I do agree with your opinion youre still an idiot.
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On August 12 2007 14:50 oshibori_probe wrote: Why the fuck are you guys so afraid of change, when its for the better.
Why should someone put obstacles/handicaps into a game?
im not against multiple buildings really its just that they close the gap between the newbie and the regular
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Sorry folks, Klockan is really bad at English and asked me to translate the following message for him:
Dear TL.Net,
I = retard.
Thanks,
Klockan3.
Whenever your ready for your homeschooling just PM me, we'll shoutcast it and get a good ol' FPVOD up here to entertain the kiddies, commence the sodomy, etc. Until then, I'm done with you and your gay lil antics you troll. Nothing but illogical bullshit & lack of understanding of the game especially when 13 people have tried to explain it to you -- doesn't help your cause. You clearly don't have a brain. Keep on trolling.
And, don't make assumptions NZ. Banned for stupid reasons have nothing to do with it and I DO lead by example in the real world by being a successful business entrepeneur and all.
Not denying the fact I'm a real a-hole to those who deserve it and this donkey deserves to get phucked in the ass.
I'm the butch and he can be my bitch for all I care. It's just 1 PM away and we shall play. We JUST MAY! I'll make him my slave for the day. We should get this shit shoutcasted.
I'm done with the jewb until then and last time I checked dickheads don't = idiots yogi the bear = smarter than the avvverage bearrrr.
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On August 13 2007 02:49 SW)taDa wrote: Sorry folks, Klockan is really bad at English and asked me to translate the following message for him:
Dear TL.Net,
I = retard.
Thanks,
Klockan3.
Whenever your ready for your homeschooling just PM me, we'll get a good ol' FPVOD up here to entertain the kiddies and commence the sodomy. Until I'm done with you and your illogical bullshit/lack of understanding because you clearly don't have a brain.
Don't make assumptions NZ. Banned for stupid reasons have nothing to do with it and I DO lead by example in the real world being a business entrepeneur and all.
Not denying the fact I'm a real a-hole to those who deserve it and this donkey deserves to get phucked in the ass.
I'm the butch and he can be my bitch for all I care. It's just 1 PM away and we shall play. We JUST MAY! I'll make him my slave for the day. We should get this shit shoutcasted.
I'm done with the jewb until then and last time I checked dickheads don't = idiots yogi the bear = smarter than the avvverage bearrrr. You are quite pathetic, do you know that?
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Let's see how good you are. I'll be gentle. I got two balls over here you can suck on as a pacifier. It won't hurt. I prooomise.
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uh I'm pretty sure Klockan was arguing about SC 2 features. please point out where in his post he challenged/derided your skills/claimed superiority? all this trash talking is so retarded.
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On August 12 2007 23:22 SW)taDa wrote: Maybe if you had some kind of authority or credibility it would help your argument. But, I think it is safe to say no one has ever heard of you ripping up the circuit. Maybe you can enlighten us on what great achievements you have to support the shit that comes out of your mouth. There is no need to know about your "achievements", like being banned before, to say what's flooding out of your mouth.
On August 12 2007 23:35 Fen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2007 19:43 InRaged wrote: Fen, if you're going to post a nonsense at least found your words on something. Half actions are around macro? Throws balance of micro and macro off? 9/10 of actions is clicking through gateways/factories/whatever?! Well it looks like you just have trouble understanding english, or maybe you are just here to troll. However my post made perfect sense and is based on what we have seen and heard from the game and those who've played it. Maybe you should re-read before posting a response which just makes you look stupid. So instead of answering the questions you're flaming and claiming that stuff like clicking through gateways/factories/whatever and sending scvs to minerals are 9/10 of actions on macro is based on what we have seen and heard?
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On August 13 2007 02:49 SW)taDa wrote:
And, don't make assumptions NZ. Banned for stupid reasons have nothing to do with it and I DO lead by example in the real world by being a successful business entrepeneur and all.
I DO lead by example in the real world by being a successful business entrepeneur and all.
I DO lead by example in the real world
in the real world
Doesn't mean shit. You could be a millionaire and it wouldn't make you any better at SC, or your opinions more valid. Money and success in real life equate to nothing in StarCraft. It's no wonder you got banned. I'm honestly surprised the mods here have let you get away with being an arrogant prick to SC players for this long. What's sort of sad is that I know none of this will get through to you, and you'll go on thinking that your 'success story' entitles you to go above the rules and talk retarded shit that is akin to kids on a fighting game forum talking trash over Xbox Live. You're not above anyone. You're exactly the same as these kids.
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you are fucking full of yourself, tada. it takes an idiot with no interest in understanding whatever your iq, to bring in arguments of being better at starcraft and making an interesting living. all your completely presumptuous personal insults only act as subject changers and you obviously have no intent to actually win the argument or prove yourself right. maybe i should presume that you are the type of asshole who thinks you're right and doesn't need to prove it to anybody. if that's not the case then you should focus on the argument at hand and what your opponent is doing to remain "ignorant" alot better than you are doing by calling them a fag. you just made like 15 paragraphs worth of bullshit with 3 paragraphs worth of actual argumentative content which you had already said anyway. and didn't do well to reiterate.
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Sigh no matter how hard it is to macro there you can never say there is ever a "balance" for rts games macro vs micro you always worked harder on the micro. anyways what are you afraid of lower apm? MACRO MANAGEMENT also counts microing lauge amouts of units think about that
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