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On February 26 2014 20:58 Holyflare wrote: Mocsta you played with her a lot (coached?), what makes you lean town on her from what she's posted? I have only chatted with her briefly in IRC. Regarding my read change #1 - I agreed on a reread she was relatively jovial early game #2 - Whilst I would consider he approach to my accusations, scummy if level headed. I think she already was slightly on tilt at that point in time -- so its more difficult to use that action to indicate alignment #3 - On February 26 2014 10:46 suki wrote: I didn't really understand why toad and rayn called each other town, but it didn't strike me as completely odd. Certainly not scummy. Hmm Toad just replied with reasoning let me see. This is pretty much toad's reasoning on why rayn is town, pretty much a meta read. Which means nothing to me so I'll just wait for them to contribute more before coming to any conclusions. This post indicates Suki is a meticulous player as far as im concerned (due to refreshing the thread prior to posting). The fact that she evaluated her opinion based on completely fresh information to me is a pretty town thing to do given the context. #4 - On February 26 2014 12:12 suki wrote: I'm heading to bed. Mocsta is still my #1, I don't like TheChyz dodging my question and just sort of actively lurking. I'll reread the thread in the morning and post more in depth reads then. I also like the callout on Chz. I believe she was the first person to consider him. The truly dumb thing about Rayns reaction to my adjustment on Suki is specifically the posts I commented on in my nullish read. I only ended up commenting on 2 posts, mainly because the others I didnt take issue with. | ||
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On February 26 2014 21:12 Holyflare wrote: Your a piece of shit HF.So why does a meticulous player make her longest post so far to say that toad has said nothing and she'll wait and see? Meticulous players would play the same as either alignment, so why when you call me out for saying things that are alignment unindicative in your opinion do you then take something so meaningless and take that as alignment semi-indicative? | ||
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On February 26 2014 10:02 geript wrote: His townread on you is super weird. Maybe I'm just too zealous and too super srs, but I didn't read his response as counter-trolling where I read your read on him as early trolling. So his response isn't a weird enough read (e.g. Vivax "everyone who's posted before me is probably town" read in LXI or Vayne's "Geript not scum with Yamato/Wave" read based on scum talking to each other early in whatever game we just got out of) to be a serious read. But it's equally not an obvious read because you're obvious town. And since I don't read it as trolling, there's only one possibility. Also curse you for forcing me to walk upstairs while I was watching SVU so I could type this out and explain it. On February 26 2014 10:45 geript wrote: Lets rolls this back a second. What about how I explained finding your read on Rayn was weird isn't making sense to you? This is directly responding to my question to reevaluate the situation given that I, at that time, had explained what was going on. I, same as WoS, wasn't sure if you actually knew what was going on, might have been just a confused townie who didn't know what was going on, in which case his confusion about the townread would make sense. It would prove he's not reading the OP but that's hardly alignment indicating. Instead he points me at his explanation PRIOR to my explanation, which would be completly and utterly uselss if that was done under the basis of not knowing what was going on. So he is CLEARLY stating he knew that I was redfishing all along, he clearly knew about the millers and thinks the townread makes no sense when indeed it makes an awful lot of sense. I am restating this to make sure people get the timing of these events correctly. I've seen a bunch of comments from people but none of them are really commiting to anything. I remember JJD saying I made sense, I remember 2 people I don't know saying geript makes no sense, I remember suki saying there are no millers which seems fairly odd (now that I think about it, she might have been just not known what's going on and thought WoS misunderstood me... have to reread that) and WoS posting this: On February 26 2014 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote: This reads exactly like your post on Mocsta and I don't like it. Do you always base your reads entirely on their most recent game? (Speaking of which, don't talk about ongoing games). Toad I actually did follow Geript's thought process to some degree. And I actually had no idea about the miller stuff until you just mentioned it. If you're sticking around Toad I can discuss with you a little. which is basicly a giant "yeah makes sense with your explanation but I totally didn't know about it. Could be geript totally didn't know about it either despite looking like he did. See that 2nd post he did? Maybe he's just confused" and then a lot of nothing because he looks like he doesn't want to wifom over this as long as he has no idea about geripts state of knowledge. We do know how much geript knew about this. Geript clearly stated that he knew what was going on all along. Stop talking about it as if there was a possibility of it not being the case and tell me what you make of geript given the conclusion that he knew about it all along. Like I said, I see a bunch of talk about him and a bunch of "this is weird", yet I'm the only one voting him. Why is that? Need to pick up my sis, be back in an hour. | ||
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On February 26 2014 21:16 Toadesstern wrote: This is directly responding to my question to reevaluate the situation given that I, at that time, had explained what was going on. I, same as WoS, wasn't sure if you actually knew what was going on, might have been just a confused townie who didn't know what was going on, in which case his confusion about the townread would make sense. It would prove he's not reading the OP but that's hardly alignment indicating. Instead he points me at his explanation PRIOR to my explanation, which would be completly and utterly uselss if that was done under the basis of not knowing what was going on. So he is CLEARLY stating he knew that I was redfishing all along, he clearly knew about the millers and thinks the townread makes no sense when indeed it makes an awful lot of sense. I am restating this to make sure people get the timing of these events correctly. I've seen a bunch of comments from people but none of them are really commiting to anything. I remember JJD saying I made sense, I remember 2 people I don't know saying geript makes no sense, I remember suki saying there are no millers which seems fairly odd (now that I think about it, she might have been just not known what's going on and thought WoS misunderstood me... have to reread that) and WoS posting this: which is basicly a giant "yeah makes sense with your explanation but I totally didn't know about it. Could be geript totally didn't know about it either despite looking like he did. See that 2nd post he did? Maybe he's just confused" and then a lot of nothing because he looks like he doesn't want to wifom over this as long as he has no idea about geripts state of knowledge. We do know how much geript knew about this. Geript clearly stated that he knew what was going on all along. Stop talking about it as if there was a possibility of it not being the case and tell me what you make of geript given the conclusion that he knew about it all along. Like I said, I see a bunch of talk about him and a bunch of "this is weird", yet I'm the only one voting him. Why is that? Need to pick up my sis, be back in an hour. [i]oh something I forget about the first red phrase in addition to the above:[/b] How in the world do you end up calling it trolling if you knew what was going on. If he knew I was redfishing, neither what rayn or I did could possibly be interpreted as trolling. No way, yet he says he's not sure if one of us is trolling. The Fuck is that. | ||
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On February 26 2014 21:19 Holyflare wrote: I asked you 2 questions mocsta, why you hate me? ! Because you're not trying to actually talk to me. You're trying to provoke me; its pretty clear you are talking with me with a premeditated mindset. So fuck off. | ||
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On February 26 2014 10:45 geript wrote: Lets rolls this back a second. What about how I explained finding your read on Rayn was weird isn't making sense to you? Why are you using all of this to push geript when you thought he was scummy before you gave him the chance to explain? Explain and vote do not go together. | ||
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On February 26 2014 21:23 Mocsta wrote: Because you're not trying to actually talk to me. You're trying to provoke me; its pretty clear you are talking with me with a premeditated mindset. So fuck off. I am wondering why you are using things that are alignment unindicative to push your reads to people, in no way am I provoking you. Either way, the first half of the post is asking about suki.......so answer it please. | ||
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On February 26 2014 21:25 Holyflare wrote: Toad why you writing so much to justify your read on geript who you are already voting for? This is what doesn't add up: Why are you using all of this to push geript when you thought he was scummy before you gave him the chance to explain? Explain and vote do not go together. I dont get this from you HF. Are you stating that are player can not campaign for a player to be lynched after hes voted them? | ||
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On February 26 2014 21:12 Holyflare wrote: So why does a meticulous player make her longest post so far to say that toad has said nothing and she'll wait and see? Meticulous players would play the same as either alignment, ..... since you wanted the first half responded to. I dont get what your point is. I used meticulous as a word choice to describe her refreshing the thread prior to posting - something i dont do as either alignment, but often regret. Frankly. I dont know how to respond to your query, because I dont understand the issue in the first place. In your world, a player can not make an observation? Whilst we both agree Sukis "observation" did not progress the game forward, in my opinion, its a useless comment more likely to serve the purpose of a townie that thinks their opinino is valuable vs a scum trying to feign contribution. | ||
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On February 26 2014 21:33 Holyflare wrote: Have you even read suki's other games x_x??? Link them to me and I read ! | ||
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On February 26 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=suki lol reading. | ||
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