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On October 26 2014 15:32 SourApplez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2014 15:29 lichter wrote: i have no opinion on this matter until more relevant facts are exposed Can this be a thing for all events in the world...? Without speculation, CNN would have to close down.
I'd also like to know more about this. I never really liked the Boss, but I still felt he was the perfect face of DH.
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I wish Dreamhack wouldn't wait till monday to explain this. Way too much speculation going on without the whole story.
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On October 26 2014 15:56 TechNoTrance wrote: I wish Dreamhack wouldn't wait till monday to explain this. Way too much speculation going on without the whole story. Tbh if Ohlen didn't tweet in a weird/unprofessional manner there would be no speculations in the first place
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On October 26 2014 16:55 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2014 15:56 TechNoTrance wrote: I wish Dreamhack wouldn't wait till monday to explain this. Way too much speculation going on without the whole story. Tbh if Ohlen didn't tweet in a weird/unprofessional manner there would be no speculations in the first place Why so?
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Because no one would know. ^^
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no Boss and no Incontrol ... just sucks. political correctness is a retard.
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On October 26 2014 17:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2014 16:55 OtherWorld wrote:On October 26 2014 15:56 TechNoTrance wrote: I wish Dreamhack wouldn't wait till monday to explain this. Way too much speculation going on without the whole story. Tbh if Ohlen didn't tweet in a weird/unprofessional manner there would be no speculations in the first place Why so? Because we would have known with an official and carefully prepared announcement from DH instead of a weird tweet that made people believe it was a hack^^ Now DH has to explain themselves, just like if they had done something bad, and they'll have to rush their explanations because the longer they wait, the longer people can speculate/hate on DH for no apparent reason since we don't know anything about what happened Edit : just look at the comment above me. We don't know anything about why Ohlen's been fired, but the way he acted let people think it's not his fault but DH's. That's bullshit
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On October 26 2014 18:09 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2014 17:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 26 2014 16:55 OtherWorld wrote:On October 26 2014 15:56 TechNoTrance wrote: I wish Dreamhack wouldn't wait till monday to explain this. Way too much speculation going on without the whole story. Tbh if Ohlen didn't tweet in a weird/unprofessional manner there would be no speculations in the first place Why so? Because we would have known with an official and carefully prepared announcement from DH instead of a weird tweet that made people believe it was a hack^^ Now DH has to explain themselves, just like if they had done something bad, and they'll have to rush their explanations because the longer they wait, the longer people can speculate/hate on DH for no apparent reason since we don't know anything about what happened Edit : just look at the comment above me. We don't know anything about why Ohlen's been fired, but the way he acted let people think it's not his fault but DH's. That's bullshit So what if he WAS treated unfairly and got stabbed in the back? You'd expect him to keep silent so Dreamhack could push out their pr statement (which they already have done btw)? How exactly do you expect someone to react in such a situation? He's not responsible for keeping Dreamhacks good name if they don't deserve it. Maybe he's slandering them, I don't know but saying he shouldn't tweet "unprofessionally" so there won't be speculation is stupid at best. He don't have any duty to protect them regardless how they've acted. If it turns out they had valid reasons I'll fully support the notion that he shouldn't do what he's doing, but we can't know that until there's more information and that won't come from him keeping silent.
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On October 26 2014 11:49 itsjustatank wrote: there's a lot of sound and fury in this thread and on Twitter. lots of passion, very healthy.
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On October 26 2014 17:59 xM(Z wrote: no Boss and no Incontrol ... just sucks. political correctness is a retard. no destiny, too : (.
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Interesting. Those tweets tho.
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DH has become pretty bad in the last 2 events imo. Not suprised.
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On October 26 2014 18:42 gruff wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2014 18:09 OtherWorld wrote:On October 26 2014 17:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 26 2014 16:55 OtherWorld wrote:On October 26 2014 15:56 TechNoTrance wrote: I wish Dreamhack wouldn't wait till monday to explain this. Way too much speculation going on without the whole story. Tbh if Ohlen didn't tweet in a weird/unprofessional manner there would be no speculations in the first place Why so? Because we would have known with an official and carefully prepared announcement from DH instead of a weird tweet that made people believe it was a hack^^ Now DH has to explain themselves, just like if they had done something bad, and they'll have to rush their explanations because the longer they wait, the longer people can speculate/hate on DH for no apparent reason since we don't know anything about what happened Edit : just look at the comment above me. We don't know anything about why Ohlen's been fired, but the way he acted let people think it's not his fault but DH's. That's bullshit So what if he WAS treated unfairly and got stabbed in the back? You'd expect him to keep silent so Dreamhack could push out their pr statement (which they already have done btw)? How exactly do you expect someone to react in such a situation? He's not responsible for keeping Dreamhacks good name if they don't deserve it. Maybe he's slandering them, I don't know but saying he shouldn't tweet "unprofessionally" so there won't be speculation is stupid at best. He don't have any duty to protect them regardless how they've acted. If it turns out they had valid reasons I'll fully support the notion that he shouldn't do what he's doing, but we can't know that until there's more information and that won't come from him keeping silent. If he was indeed treated unfairly, then I somehow doubt that a tweet is the correct way of showing that. He needs to explain how he was treated unfairly, and why DH is the worst organization on earth or something along those lines, and I doubt Twitter is the correct place to do that, especially with the character limitation. So to answer your question, I expect someone, especially if he/she is an important person in the scene, to react in a slightly more elaborate manner than an unclear tweet. You are right on the fact that he's not entitled to protect their good name though.
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On October 26 2014 09:32 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2014 09:26 pure.Wasted wrote:On October 26 2014 09:23 m4ini wrote:On October 26 2014 09:19 pure.Wasted wrote:On October 26 2014 09:05 Jaaaaasper wrote:On October 26 2014 09:00 Luolis wrote:On October 26 2014 08:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:On October 26 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote: Sad news, but does anyone know what effect this has on dreamhack? and putting teams in finland in Western Europe and stuff. How is this weird? Because EU West teams have to play some or all of their games vs NA Teams on the US East server, and that puts Finnish teams at a fairly major disadvantage compared of if they were in EU East which would have all games on EU West making it a lot more fair for them. Other teams that far east on the map are in Eu West, but not finish teams. Presumably the head of a major LoL tournament should know stuff like that, but to a layman that makes zero sense. No, even as a layman i understood that pretty easy. EU team forced to play on NA = disadvantage. Is that CEO swedish? Because that would be awkward. ^^ I get that part, but why the hell is the qualifier set up such that teams that are categorized as "EU" play in "NA" to begin with? It's completely counter-intuitive. Beats me. I think people try to put it on him, since he's a swede. Swedes and finns don't really get along, at least that's what i gathered from a swedish friend of mine. Obviously, i got no opinion on that, since i didn't follow anything in that regard, most likely some made-up bullshit like it usually is with those things, and then blown out of proportion.
From what I know (being Swedish with Finish relatives) it isn't true. There was a large immigration of Finish people during WW2 and later on as we had shortage of workers. We were also part of the same unions for centuries, they are the largest minority in the country due to that. I havn't seen any racism or similar against them in my daily interactions, have one in my department at work and don't see anybody treating him badly.
As for the topic itself. We'll see the reason as the next year rolls around and how things change.
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From a swedes point of view, one who has met many DH employees including Robert himself, the fact that he is released is not that surprising. The guy drains huge amounts of energy but also gives it back tenfold. The lack of information from Dreamhack tells you that something bad happened - or not. We don't know. Speculating about this won't get us anywhere, it will only make the tag Esports-drama all too applicable. Let's just wait and see what DH will comment, because they will.
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On October 26 2014 19:08 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2014 18:42 gruff wrote:On October 26 2014 18:09 OtherWorld wrote:On October 26 2014 17:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 26 2014 16:55 OtherWorld wrote:On October 26 2014 15:56 TechNoTrance wrote: I wish Dreamhack wouldn't wait till monday to explain this. Way too much speculation going on without the whole story. Tbh if Ohlen didn't tweet in a weird/unprofessional manner there would be no speculations in the first place Why so? Because we would have known with an official and carefully prepared announcement from DH instead of a weird tweet that made people believe it was a hack^^ Now DH has to explain themselves, just like if they had done something bad, and they'll have to rush their explanations because the longer they wait, the longer people can speculate/hate on DH for no apparent reason since we don't know anything about what happened Edit : just look at the comment above me. We don't know anything about why Ohlen's been fired, but the way he acted let people think it's not his fault but DH's. That's bullshit So what if he WAS treated unfairly and got stabbed in the back? You'd expect him to keep silent so Dreamhack could push out their pr statement (which they already have done btw)? How exactly do you expect someone to react in such a situation? He's not responsible for keeping Dreamhacks good name if they don't deserve it. Maybe he's slandering them, I don't know but saying he shouldn't tweet "unprofessionally" so there won't be speculation is stupid at best. He don't have any duty to protect them regardless how they've acted. If it turns out they had valid reasons I'll fully support the notion that he shouldn't do what he's doing, but we can't know that until there's more information and that won't come from him keeping silent. If he was indeed treated unfairly, then I somehow doubt that a tweet is the correct way of showing that. He needs to explain how he was treated unfairly, and why DH is the worst organization on earth or something along those lines, and I doubt Twitter is the correct place to do that, especially with the character limitation. So to answer your question, I expect someone, especially if he/she is an important person in the scene, to react in a slightly more elaborate manner than an unclear tweet. You are right on the fact that he's not entitled to protect their good name though. he doesn't owe you gossip material.
i saw him in an invitational drinking vine, chilling and somewhat talking about DH doing bs as pr stunts/for pr sake, so i figured it's somehow related. in that note, i viewed him and Incontrol being the victims of politic-ism for the sake of ... peoples feeling-isms?. emotionally challenged people shout go extinct.
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On October 26 2014 15:29 lichter wrote: i have no opinion on this matter until more relevant facts are exposed pfft
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