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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On March 18 2015 00:13 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 22:27 kitaman27 wrote:On March 10 2015 03:12 Alakaslam wrote: How many have left though kita? I don't have an exact number, but it's probably around half. On March 17 2015 13:45 Ver wrote: Maybe I'm crazy but I'm pretty sure I've played in something like 12-14 games, not 5, even if 1-2 of them were annulled midway. Lets stick with the crazy theory. Smurf games aren't included in the total so that's probably the difference. Seems like you have 5 completed games, 1 modkilled game, and 1 where a role list was never posted unless I missed any others. On March 17 2015 14:00 GreYMisT wrote: Looks like some people pulled ahead of me for games hosted, guess not hosting for a while and not doing minis/normals will do that to a person though You just need Aperture to spawn 10 different mini games at once to inflate your total! Would that count?
Only if they positively impact my win percentage.
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Hey Kita, can you do the other end of Town Lynched Percentage? It'd be funny to know who was most often mislynched
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Blazinghand
United States25546 Posts
also useful, since we'd know they are often suspected of being scum as town
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On March 18 2015 07:33 iGrok wrote: Hey Kita, can you do the other end of Town Lynched Percentage? It'd be funny to know who was most often mislynched lets not do this?
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As coag has said,
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United States2186 Posts
On March 17 2015 22:27 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 13:45 Ver wrote: Maybe I'm crazy but I'm pretty sure I've played in something like 12-14 games, not 5, even if 1-2 of them were annulled midway. Lets stick with the crazy theory. Smurf games aren't included in the total so that's probably the difference. Seems like you have 5 completed games, 1 modkilled game, and 1 where a role list was never posted unless I missed any others.
Oh right. I had 2 games on Ser aspi and 2 games on jimbosilvers (last one was kavdragon), so it seems 11 total. You didn't list Caller's red army mafia game (role list). I forgot the smurf game got cancelled midway.
p.s that was a tactical modkill that won town the game
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'tactical modkills' are considered cheating now days.
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Yup no tactical modkill Sson
Is to cheeeeeeeeeeeet and wreck games
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Tactical modkill rule dates even before I started playing and that was 4 years ago, Ver surely knows about it and that's why he mentioned it
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United States2186 Posts
Yeah the game in question actually was responsible for the tactical modkill rule, since that was the first game inactivity modkills were introduced and nobody had conceived that they could be used to help win a game. Things were more like the wild west back then hehe.
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Ver is right, tactical modkills weren't forbidden at the time, though it definitely felt like a dirty move and it added a ton of drama to that game. There was no ban list at the time either. However, we were more focused on getting games where half of the town wasn't inactive by night 3 simply because they were green and where the mafia's best strategy wasn't to simply shoot everyone who voted.
Let's be fair though, that wasn't the main move that won the town that game. It technically did win town the game, but only because the town won by such a razor thin margin that a bunch of things won them the game.
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United States4679 Posts
Wow, the holier-than-thou is strong with this one.
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Not really. Just remembering a sour moment from an old game I hosted and taking the opportunity to poke a little fun at a friend.
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Canada11355 Posts
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United States4679 Posts
On March 19 2015 13:34 Qatol wrote: Not really. Just remembering a sour moment from an old game I hosted and taking the opportunity to poke a little fun at a friend. Sorry, I was kind of out of line.
It's just frustrating when the "old-timers" only come around to post about the glory days and how TL Mafia ain't the same as it used to be, but with the undertone that it's objectively worse.
I could have been less snarky about it though. My apologies.
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On March 19 2015 15:25 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 13:34 Qatol wrote: Not really. Just remembering a sour moment from an old game I hosted and taking the opportunity to poke a little fun at a friend. Sorry, I was kind of out of line. It's just frustrating when the "old-timers" only come around to post about the glory days and how TL Mafia ain't the same as it used to be, but with the undertone that it's objectively worse. I could have been less snarky about it though. My apologies. Qatol was not speaking about current games, but the past games While I do not doubt he reads something out of games sometimes, I really do not think he would talk about them in any way in an unrelated thread. Just go back to the Lurker Bane discussion and game that had them implemented - Real Time Mafia hosted by RebirthOfLegend. You will get why Qatol is so bitter about lurkers. We are friends here Kei, do not forget that
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On March 19 2015 21:46 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 15:25 Keirathi wrote:On March 19 2015 13:34 Qatol wrote: Not really. Just remembering a sour moment from an old game I hosted and taking the opportunity to poke a little fun at a friend. Sorry, I was kind of out of line. It's just frustrating when the "old-timers" only come around to post about the glory days and how TL Mafia ain't the same as it used to be, but with the undertone that it's objectively worse. I could have been less snarky about it though. My apologies. Qatol was not speaking about current games, but the past games While I do not doubt he reads something out of games sometimes, I really do not think he would talk about them in any way in an unrelated thread. Just go back to the Lurker Bane discussion and game that had them implemented - Real Time Mafia hosted by RebirthOfLegend. You will get why Qatol is so bitter about lurkers. We are friends here Kei, do not forget that
No problem Keirathi. As Kurumi says, I was talking about an old game - specifically, the game Ver was modkilled in, which I hosted (Mafia VIII).
I don't think TL Mafia is objectively worse now than it was back then - in fact, I think things have improved a lot, in a lot of different ways - the players are WAY better, the setups are generally far more balanced, and the games actually get everyone involved (which was a serious problem back then - most of the town was basically expected to simply do what 1-2 confirmed townies told them to do, with most of the early game being centered around confirming those players as townies).
That being said, what I think you have been picking up on from us old timers (though, as Kurumi mentioned, not really what I intended with my post) is simply a little bit of nostalgia for fun times which happened during those games. It isn't that they were better or worse than the fun times that happen during the present games, we are just remembering that they happened and TL is still a natural meeting place for us. I apologize if someone (myself or someone else) made you feel like they were looking down on you just because you weren't around back then.
I definitely hate lurkers/inactives (definitely not a reference to current games), though it started earlier than Real Time Mafia. Mafia Resurrection hosted by BC was absolutely brutal. We had the ability to check how many mafia voted for someone during a given vote, giving us a 2/4 list and a 5/10 list, plus we had a day 1 rolecheck (rolechecks could be done during the day) + lynch on Ver (probably the mafia's best player that game), and still lost because the townies stopped voting.
Regardless, enough sidetracking the thread. The point of all of this is yes, there was a time where strategic modkills weren't against the rules, and yes, Ver's modkill was during that time. Also, he's totally engaging in puffery to say that his modkill "basically won the game for the town" and he needed to be called on it.
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This talk of old games makes me want to host IRC SSB64 Mafia again... Would anyone be interested in that?
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
On March 20 2015 13:57 iGrok wrote: This talk of old games makes me want to host IRC SSB64 Mafia again... Would anyone be interested in that?
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
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United Kingdom35817 Posts
love IRC mafia, can do it without disturbing my other half (mostly)
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