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Brutaxilos
United States2572 Posts
My top 10 in no particular order Mvp Life Taeja Innovation Parting sOs Polt Nestea MC Zest | ||
Tanzklaue
Germany1412 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:14 thecrazymunchkin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 05:13 Tanzklaue wrote: my favourite part was that marineking's article basically was "he sucks, he is dumb, wasted potential", then "he totes better than soo tho". i kinda feel a discrepancy there. not that i disagree with the sentiment, but maybe he would've deserved to be palced lower. Just because he could have achieved far more doesn't deduct from the results he had i would stilla rgue that his achievements were way worse than what soo, maru and maybe even DRG accomplished. | ||
Dragoonstorm7
United States599 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:15 Brutaxilos wrote: LOL at people who have Rain on their top 10. The guy is good, but he's only won 3 tournaments. None of which were serious, long term events. (First ever OSL with half BW players who don't know how to play the game, WCS Asia Finals with literally Bo3 the entire tournament, Hot6ix Cup may have been the only notable win). My top 10 in no particular order Mvp Life Taeja Innovation Parting sOs Polt Nestea MC Zest sOs already stated to be #16 in Leenocks article. | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:15 Brutaxilos wrote: LOL at people who have Rain on their top 10. The guy is good, but he's only won 3 tournaments. None of which were serious, long term events. (First ever OSL with half BW players who don't know how to play the game, WCS Asia Finals with literally Bo3 the entire tournament, Hot6ix Cup may have been the only notable win). My top 10 in no particular order Mvp Life Taeja Innovation Parting sOs Polt Nestea MC Zest MMA outside the top 10? Wowzers | ||
Apoteosis
Chile820 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:04 Tanzklaue wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 05:00 Apoteosis wrote: On April 12 2015 04:56 Tanzklaue wrote: On April 12 2015 04:55 Apoteosis wrote: No FruitDealer ? Come on !!! fruitdealer won 1 tournament, and did nothing else. yes, it was the first big tournament win ever, but still he did nothing impressive afterwards. The very first GSL was impressive in his own right. And if you don't (or can't) remember, Zergs were underperforming back in the day. FD play at the very first GSL marked the concept of how Zerg should macro, even to this day. Expand, drone, expand, attack. Every Zerg play by that norm when they play macro. and again, he won 1 tournament, then did jackshit after that. he never had another deep run. by that logic we shpould put seed in there, who won GSL after no protoss had won it for years. also the seocnd winner was nestea, another zerg. i dunno, but purely based on tournament wins we might have overestimated imbalances. the next 2 winners of the tournament were terran and protoss. terran dominance only started after the infancy phase of sc2. It was the VERY FIRST GSL, when the meta was just pure cheese and the maps were so against Zerg that even BitByBit and Trickster made deep tournament runs. There, and the macro legacy, made FD a creditor for a space on this list. And by the way, Nestea was the only good Zerg around that time after FD. And that's because Blizzard buffed the roach and a bunch of other adjustments that made Zerg more viable to play at high-levels. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42223 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:14 opisska wrote: I am dying of curiosity to know what are the 10 players that are greater of all times then Maru! Surely you could easily guess at least 5 of them? | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:15 Brutaxilos wrote: LOL at people who have Rain on their top 10. The guy is good, but he's only won 3 tournaments. None of which were serious, long term events. (First ever OSL with half BW players who don't know how to play the game, WCS Asia Finals with literally Bo3 the entire tournament, Hot6ix Cup may have been the only notable win). My top 10 in no particular order Mvp Life Taeja Innovation Parting sOs Polt Nestea MC Zest Rain did define the Protoss meta game like few others, particulary in PvP. So despite him not being the winningest player, he has something going for him. | ||
Brutaxilos
United States2572 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:16 Dragoonstorm7 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 05:15 Brutaxilos wrote: LOL at people who have Rain on their top 10. The guy is good, but he's only won 3 tournaments. None of which were serious, long term events. (First ever OSL with half BW players who don't know how to play the game, WCS Asia Finals with literally Bo3 the entire tournament, Hot6ix Cup may have been the only notable win). My top 10 in no particular order Mvp Life Taeja Innovation Parting sOs Polt Nestea MC Zest sOs already stated to be #16 in Leenocks article. Replace him with MMA. I forgot about that. | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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Tanzklaue
Germany1412 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:17 Apoteosis wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 05:04 Tanzklaue wrote: On April 12 2015 05:00 Apoteosis wrote: On April 12 2015 04:56 Tanzklaue wrote: On April 12 2015 04:55 Apoteosis wrote: No FruitDealer ? Come on !!! fruitdealer won 1 tournament, and did nothing else. yes, it was the first big tournament win ever, but still he did nothing impressive afterwards. The very first GSL was impressive in his own right. And if you don't (or can't) remember, Zergs were underperforming back in the day. FD play at the very first GSL marked the concept of how Zerg should macro, even to this day. Expand, drone, expand, attack. Every Zerg play by that norm when they play macro. and again, he won 1 tournament, then did jackshit after that. he never had another deep run. by that logic we shpould put seed in there, who won GSL after no protoss had won it for years. also the seocnd winner was nestea, another zerg. i dunno, but purely based on tournament wins we might have overestimated imbalances. the next 2 winners of the tournament were terran and protoss. terran dominance only started after the infancy phase of sc2. It was the VERY FIRST GSL, when the meta was just pure cheese and the maps were so against Zerg that even BitByBit and Trickster made deep tournament runs. There, and the macro legacy, made FD a creditor for a space on this list. And by the way, Nestea was the only good Zerg around that time after FD. And that's because Blizzard buffed the roach and a bunch of other adjustments that made Zerg more viable to play at high-levels. there, you said it yourself. literally anyone could make deep tournament runs. even fruitdealer, a nobody of not too remarkable skill. the people of that time that actually made multiple deep runs during that time and after that time, like marinekind, mvp, nestea and mc, are featured on the list or are certain to be listed. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
xD but in all seriousness, i think best of all time must be Mvp. After that, give it to Life, MC, MMA, or even Polt, for consistency during all these years. | ||
Brutaxilos
United States2572 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 05:15 Brutaxilos wrote: LOL at people who have Rain on their top 10. The guy is good, but he's only won 3 tournaments. None of which were serious, long term events. (First ever OSL with half BW players who don't know how to play the game, WCS Asia Finals with literally Bo3 the entire tournament, Hot6ix Cup may have been the only notable win). My top 10 in no particular order Mvp Life Taeja Innovation Parting sOs Polt Nestea MC Zest Rain did define the Protoss meta game like few others, particulary in PvP. So despite him not being the winningest player, he has something going for him. Couldn't you argue that Destiny defined the Zerg meta game in WoL with his infestor play? I'm not saying Rain is bad, he's just overrated in my opinion. | ||
ejozl
Denmark3173 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:17 Apoteosis wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 05:04 Tanzklaue wrote: On April 12 2015 05:00 Apoteosis wrote: On April 12 2015 04:56 Tanzklaue wrote: On April 12 2015 04:55 Apoteosis wrote: No FruitDealer ? Come on !!! fruitdealer won 1 tournament, and did nothing else. yes, it was the first big tournament win ever, but still he did nothing impressive afterwards. The very first GSL was impressive in his own right. And if you don't (or can't) remember, Zergs were underperforming back in the day. FD play at the very first GSL marked the concept of how Zerg should macro, even to this day. Expand, drone, expand, attack. Every Zerg play by that norm when they play macro. and again, he won 1 tournament, then did jackshit after that. he never had another deep run. by that logic we shpould put seed in there, who won GSL after no protoss had won it for years. also the seocnd winner was nestea, another zerg. i dunno, but purely based on tournament wins we might have overestimated imbalances. the next 2 winners of the tournament were terran and protoss. terran dominance only started after the infancy phase of sc2. It was the VERY FIRST GSL, when the meta was just pure cheese and the maps were so against Zerg that even BitByBit and Trickster made deep tournament runs. There, and the macro legacy, made FD a creditor for a space on this list. And by the way, Nestea was the only good Zerg around that time after FD. And that's because Blizzard buffed the roach and a bunch of other adjustments that made Zerg more viable to play at high-levels. Hey! Trickster/Tester is a total boss. He was my first Protoss crush. | ||
Dragoonstorm7
United States599 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:22 Tanzklaue wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 05:17 Apoteosis wrote: On April 12 2015 05:04 Tanzklaue wrote: On April 12 2015 05:00 Apoteosis wrote: On April 12 2015 04:56 Tanzklaue wrote: On April 12 2015 04:55 Apoteosis wrote: No FruitDealer ? Come on !!! fruitdealer won 1 tournament, and did nothing else. yes, it was the first big tournament win ever, but still he did nothing impressive afterwards. The very first GSL was impressive in his own right. And if you don't (or can't) remember, Zergs were underperforming back in the day. FD play at the very first GSL marked the concept of how Zerg should macro, even to this day. Expand, drone, expand, attack. Every Zerg play by that norm when they play macro. and again, he won 1 tournament, then did jackshit after that. he never had another deep run. by that logic we shpould put seed in there, who won GSL after no protoss had won it for years. also the seocnd winner was nestea, another zerg. i dunno, but purely based on tournament wins we might have overestimated imbalances. the next 2 winners of the tournament were terran and protoss. terran dominance only started after the infancy phase of sc2. It was the VERY FIRST GSL, when the meta was just pure cheese and the maps were so against Zerg that even BitByBit and Trickster made deep tournament runs. There, and the macro legacy, made FD a creditor for a space on this list. And by the way, Nestea was the only good Zerg around that time after FD. And that's because Blizzard buffed the roach and a bunch of other adjustments that made Zerg more viable to play at high-levels. there, you said it yourself. literally anyone could make deep tournament runs. even fruitdealer, a nobody of not too remarkable skill. the people of that time that actually made multiple deep runs during that time and after that time, like marinekind, mvp, nestea and mc, are featured on the list or are certain to be listed. Also looking at the criteria of how they judge tournament in paragraph 2 of the forward, the very first GSL is probably considered the very weakest , hence the least significant. | ||
Tanzklaue
Germany1412 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:22 [Phantom] wrote: You know what would be fun? Taeja best of all time xD but in all seriousness, i think best of all time must be Mvp. After that, give it to Life, MC, MMA, or even Polt, for consistency during all these years. because winning 11 premiers over 3 years isn't consistent. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 12 2015 04:57 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 04:57 geokilla wrote: Maru only 13?! I'm not so sure about that. Why is he only 13th? It says so in his section, you know What is reading? | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:28 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 04:57 Zealously wrote: On April 12 2015 04:57 geokilla wrote: Maru only 13?! I'm not so sure about that. Why is he only 13th? It says so in his section, you know What is reading? I just look at the name, the number, and the pretty pictures | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:28 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2015 04:57 Zealously wrote: On April 12 2015 04:57 geokilla wrote: Maru only 13?! I'm not so sure about that. Why is he only 13th? It says so in his section, you know What is reading? What is love? It's a 10-pool. | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
#10: Zest #9: Nestea #8: MMA #7: Polt #6: Parting #5: MC #4: Innovation #3: Taeja #2: Mvp #1: Life will edit with commenting later on. | ||
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