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The biggest boxing fight in recent history is fast approaching.
Pundits the world over are betting Floyd wins on points, yet a a large number of people are insisting Manny has what it takes to break down his undefeated opponent.
It is highly unlikely to see a knock out, going to points then, I am weighing in Manny's side.
Come May 2nd, in Vegas we will see who is the greatest pound for pound fighter ever.
Who are you siding with?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HYpuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Pacquiao (spelling....)
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I have Brock Lesnar winning with a home run into the goal while he jumps a 4-feet vertical into the net for the touchdown.
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Pacman gonna win on points, they just can't let him retire undefeated.
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On April 17 2015 14:40 739 wrote: Pacman gonna win on points, they just can't let him retire undefeated.
Interesting theory!!! I really hope you are right!!! heheh^^
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On April 17 2015 10:34 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Come May 2nd, in Vegas we will see who is the greatest pound for pound fighter ever.
I can't see Mayweather losing that title, even if he loses, to someone who has over 10% non-win results, and over 7% of his results being losses, regardless of strength of competition.
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Is this the last fight for both of them seeing as they are almost 40? also I'm not a huge boxing fan but these guys are pretty mainstream. Who takes there place? I don't even know who the other top boxers are. What big names do people have to look forward too after this fight?
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Jesse Hart? Hueheuhue, is this Plexa fighting? ^^
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51339 Posts
On April 17 2015 21:40 739 wrote: Jesse Hart? Hueheuhue, is this Plexa fighting? ^^ + Show Spoiler [lol] + I don't think so unless Plexa looks like that
On April 17 2015 21:32 Dizmaul wrote: Is this the last fight for both of them seeing as they are almost 40? also I'm not a huge boxing fan but these guys are pretty mainstream. Who takes there place? I don't even know who the other top boxers are. What big names do people have to look forward too after this fight? Mayweather wants to beat Rocky's record of 39 and 0 i think which is 3 fights away afaik. Or the record is 3 more wins. Pretty sure he will go until he hits that, or at least ties with it.
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On April 17 2015 21:32 Dizmaul wrote: Is this the last fight for both of them seeing as they are almost 40? also I'm not a huge boxing fan but these guys are pretty mainstream. Who takes there place? I don't even know who the other top boxers are. What big names do people have to look forward too after this fight?
I think it is the last fight for Manny.
Mayweather has one more fight after this one on his contract.
Top Boxers: Amir Khan is in great form (fights Chris Algeiri end of May), even Anthony Mundine is boxing well these days (fights Austin Trout end of May).
But the one to really watch, is Danny Garcia : 30 wins - no losses. He will move up through the weights and ranks no probs. Dude totally shrek rekt Khan. Garcia's last fight was against Peterson was a close one (some say it was contraversial even) But a win is a win.
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I'll be sure to watch this one :D
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The great Wladimir Klitschko is fighting this month (25/4) against Bryant Jennings (undefeated to date). Will be a great fight too! Heavy weights are no joke.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51339 Posts
On April 17 2015 22:48 AxiomBlurr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 21:32 Dizmaul wrote: Is this the last fight for both of them seeing as they are almost 40? also I'm not a huge boxing fan but these guys are pretty mainstream. Who takes there place? I don't even know who the other top boxers are. What big names do people have to look forward too after this fight? I think it is the last fight for Manny. Mayweather has one more fight after this one on his contract. Top Boxers: Amir Khan is in great form (fights Chris Algeiri end of May), even Anthony Mundine is boxing well these days (fights Austin Trout end of May). But the one to really watch, is Danny Garcia : 30 wins - no losses. He will move up through the weights and ranks no probs. Dude totally shrek rekt Khan. Garcia's last fight was against Peterson was a close one (some say it was contraversial even) But a win is a win.
Really? The guy imo was outclassed by a poor Lamont Peterson who isn't anything special in my eyes. He gets beaten alot by boxers. Now obviously he is 30-0 so doesn't lose fights but he gets beaten up in the face etc. I mean i know Amir lost violently to Garcia but the first two rounds holy hell Khan beat the hell out of him with his speed, it looked like Garcia was an ametur. But as we all know with Amir his chin got the best of him and he went down like a sack of spuds. However if they were to meet again with the big man Virgil Hunter in his corner i would back Khan again to be heavily favored. He has also looked alot more "safe" at 147 even though i guess he hasn't really faced a puncher that this weight yet?
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On April 17 2015 23:23 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 22:48 AxiomBlurr wrote:On April 17 2015 21:32 Dizmaul wrote: Is this the last fight for both of them seeing as they are almost 40? also I'm not a huge boxing fan but these guys are pretty mainstream. Who takes there place? I don't even know who the other top boxers are. What big names do people have to look forward too after this fight? I think it is the last fight for Manny. Mayweather has one more fight after this one on his contract. Top Boxers: Amir Khan is in great form (fights Chris Algeiri end of May), even Anthony Mundine is boxing well these days (fights Austin Trout end of May). But the one to really watch, is Danny Garcia : 30 wins - no losses. He will move up through the weights and ranks no probs. Dude totally shrek rekt Khan. Garcia's last fight was against Peterson was a close one (some say it was contraversial even) But a win is a win. Really? The guy imo was outclassed by a poor Lamont Peterson who isn't anything special in my eyes. He gets beaten alot by boxers. Now obviously he is 30-0 so doesn't lose fights but he gets beaten up in the face etc. I mean i know Amir lost violently to Garcia but the first two rounds holy hell Khan beat the hell out of him with his speed, it looked like Garcia was an ametur. But as we all know with Amir his chin got the best of him and he went down like a sack of spuds. However if they were to meet again with the big man Virgil Hunter in his corner i would back Khan again to be heavily favored. He has also looked alot more "safe" at 147 even though i guess he hasn't really faced a puncher that this weight yet?
I have to agree with you, if Garcia v Khan 2 happens - - Khan will get him points no worries. Khan is looking the real deal these days. Chris Algieri is up for his second loss on the 29th of May (the first to Manny).
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51339 Posts
Yeah that Macau trip for Manny vs Algieri was hilarious. Guy got pummeled by Pacman, you would expect something similar (maybe not as brutal) that Khan will dish out to him. Unless Algieri really has improved and learnt his lesson which could make things cool.
I read a conclusion to the last fight of Garcia vs Peterson, that there will be a lot of 147lb boxers lining up to face him next fight for a mini pay day lol.
Moving on, have you seen Anthony Joshua fight? Guy gives me sick nerd chills every time he steps into the ring, even though all his fights have pretty much been vs bums so far. He is due to fight Olympic killer Kevin Johnson at the end of May which is where we will see what he is made of for sure, but right now still he gives me chills. Fights again on 9th May before the 30th May showdown with Johnson.
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Anthony Joshua is a weapon! thanks for the heads up! Just watched a dozen highlight reels of his...wowow! Dude can move!
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On April 17 2015 21:43 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 21:40 739 wrote: Jesse Hart? Hueheuhue, is this Plexa fighting? ^^ + Show Spoiler [lol] +I don't think so unless Plexa looks like that Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 21:32 Dizmaul wrote: Is this the last fight for both of them seeing as they are almost 40? also I'm not a huge boxing fan but these guys are pretty mainstream. Who takes there place? I don't even know who the other top boxers are. What big names do people have to look forward too after this fight? Mayweather wants to beat Rocky's record of 39 and 0 i think which is 3 fights away afaik. Or the record is 3 more wins. Pretty sure he will go until he hits that, or at least ties with it.
Marciano went 49-0... currently Mayweather is 47-0.
Larry Holmes went 48-0 before beating Michael Spinx twice and getting robbed by the judges in both fights. Holmes is the most under rated "great heavyweight" by casual fans. Hard core historians know how great he is though.
and Of course, Tyson absolutely destroyed both Spinx and Holmes.
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First poster here:
I have limited experience in boxing but I believe Mayweather is heavily favored for several reasons - He movement and footwook are more slick (harder for pac man to hit) - He has a 5 inch reach advantage (easier to defend/counterpunch) - He is Taller (Pac Man has to angle his punches upward) - He can take more punches (Pac-man has a glass chin after being put to sleep my Marquiz)
The only advantage Pac Man has is power and being Southpaw. He will have to be aggressive but that leaves him open to counterpunches which is very risky.
All that being said im somewhat bias because i have 1000$ on Mayweather. If they fought 5 years ago I would have bet on Pac-Man.
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On April 18 2015 02:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 21:43 Pandemona wrote:On April 17 2015 21:40 739 wrote: Jesse Hart? Hueheuhue, is this Plexa fighting? ^^ + Show Spoiler [lol] +I don't think so unless Plexa looks like that On April 17 2015 21:32 Dizmaul wrote: Is this the last fight for both of them seeing as they are almost 40? also I'm not a huge boxing fan but these guys are pretty mainstream. Who takes there place? I don't even know who the other top boxers are. What big names do people have to look forward too after this fight? Mayweather wants to beat Rocky's record of 39 and 0 i think which is 3 fights away afaik. Or the record is 3 more wins. Pretty sure he will go until he hits that, or at least ties with it. Marciano went 49-0... currently Mayweather is 47-0. Larry Holmes went 48-0 before beating Michael Spinx twice and getting robbed by the judges in both fights. Holmes is the most under rated "great heavyweight" by casual fans. Hard core historians know how great he is though. and Of course, Tyson absolutely destroyed both Spinx and Holmes.
Thank you for this. That error really bothered me for some reason.
Regarding the fight, this will be very interesting. It reminds me of the build up to Hagler/Hearns, and the methods that Hearns used to try and catch Hagler on the downside of his career (basically dodging him for years the way Floyd dodged Manny for years, and I can get into this if you really want, but suffice it to say that a guy that is actually interested in a fight doesn't demand 100% of the PPV money, that's a coward's tactic), and he got knocked out anyway.
There are a few things about this fight to note, and they are, to me, what makes this so enticing. It's a very intriguing fight from a technical stand point.
On Floyd's side:
He's an amazing boxer, I won't bother with all that stuff, but some sort of trivia fact that's relevant to Floyd... How and why Floyd will win on points is obvious.
But Floyd has more power than people think too. He can definitely end the fight early, if he gets the opportunity. He got tired of breaking his hands in every fight, which is why he switched from Reyes to Winning gloves many years ago. They're like big pillows, and they kept him from breaking his hands. He uses Grant now, and despite their popularity, I am unfamiliar with them, but I imagine they're still not as hard as Reyes. Either way, he protects his hands in fights, which is why he doesn't KO guys as often. To think he doesn't have the power to KO Manny is foolish, and to think that Manny won't leave himself open from time to time is also foolish. If he slips up too badly, he'll get KOed. I don't think this will happen.
On Manny's side (the more intriguing side, imo):
He has everything that everyone has always said is needed to take out Floyd. An endless motor, great power, and speed. More importantly, he listens to his coach, the coach that designed a winning game plan for DLH when he fought Floyd. DLH abandoned the game plan around round 5, and Floyd took over, while Roach continued to implore Oscar to throw the fucking jab. God knows why he wouldn't listen as he started to get picked apart by Floyd, but Floyd anticipated everything that happened in that fight, and blah blah... anyway, Roach is brilliant, and Manny listens. That's a winning combination.
Floyd has historically struggled against southpaws. This is the case for many orthodox fighters, but what greatly affects Floyd is his defensive style. He is so accustomed to rolling his shoulder to deflect punches that he continues to do that against southpaws (you can see this historically. Zab rocked him a couple of times, and other guys have gotten to him too). And rolling his shoulder is very effective, of course, when the other fighter throws a left hook or a straight right. When the other fighter throws a right hook or a straight left, as it so happens, it leaves his face wide open. He's been rocked a couple of times on those punches. Manny developed a right hook over the years, and it's almost as dangerous as his straight. If you don't know about his right hook, check the fight with Hatton. It's not comparable at all to Floyd, I know, but it's a good demonstration of his power with the right. He rocked him twice in the first, and put him down at about a minute into the fight with the right. Of course, he ended it with one of the most devastating lefts I've ever seen.
The point is this: if Floyd leaves himself open the way he did when he fought Judah or Corely, or any other southpaw, Manny has the power to KO him in a single punch. He cannot allow himself to eat a straight left from Pacquiao. He counters the SP stance by coming out of the Philly shell and putting his right hand up high. That distracts him, and his punch output drops significantly. He's not comfortable fighting with both hands high at all.
Floyd has historically struggled with the right hook -> pivot from SPs too. When they pivot away (moving toward the opponent's back), it's very hard to follow up with a counter straight. In general, it's a very awkward way for an orthodox fighter to rotate, and one becomes so accustomed to fighting other orthodox fighters that it's difficult to adjust for one fight (it's hard to break 30+ years of habit in 3 months is what I'm saying). One thing that certainly plays favorably for Floyd is that he can counter a jab with a left hook if Manny hangs it out there.
There are a lot of things at play here... I'm excited for it to finally happen, though (like most people) I wish it would have taken place five years ago instead.
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