On July 14 2015 06:18 Rookie6 wrote: And do you guys think it´s better to make a separate thread for the Suicide Squad or we keep all in this one for now?
Seperate thread for sure. People are already confused enough. Even in 1 year some people will go watch Superman vs Batman and wait for the Joker's appearance...
On July 14 2015 06:18 Rookie6 wrote: And do you guys think it´s better to make a separate thread for the Suicide Squad or we keep all in this one for now?
Seperate thread for sure. People are already confused enough. Even in 1 year some people will go watch Superman vs Batman and wait for the Joker's appearance...
Are we sure there won't be Joker in the movie, even if it's only in Batman's flashbacks? We clearly see an old suit vandalized in a way that suggests the Jokers involvement ("the jokes on you"). The red handwriting about letting his parents die could also have been from Joker, theoretically. The latter is less likely since it would imply Joker knows his real identity.
On July 14 2015 06:18 Rookie6 wrote: And do you guys think it´s better to make a separate thread for the Suicide Squad or we keep all in this one for now?
Seperate thread for sure. People are already confused enough. Even in 1 year some people will go watch Superman vs Batman and wait for the Joker's appearance...
Are we sure there won't be Joker in the movie, even if it's only in Batman's flashbacks? We clearly see an old suit vandalized in a way that suggests the Jokers involvement ("the jokes on you"). The red handwriting about letting his parents die could also have been from Joker, theoretically. The latter is less likely since it would imply Joker knows his real identity.
I think it´s almost confirmed that there will be a flashback scene where it shows the Joker killing Robin. Don´t really have the source now though.
On July 14 2015 06:18 Rookie6 wrote: And do you guys think it´s better to make a separate thread for the Suicide Squad or we keep all in this one for now?
Seperate thread for sure. People are already confused enough. Even in 1 year some people will go watch Superman vs Batman and wait for the Joker's appearance...
Are we sure there won't be Joker in the movie, even if it's only in Batman's flashbacks? We clearly see an old suit vandalized in a way that suggests the Jokers involvement ("the jokes on you"). The red handwriting about letting his parents die could also have been from Joker, theoretically. The latter is less likely since it would imply Joker knows his real identity.
I still strongly believe it's Jason Todd that sent the newspaper to Bruce. They're playing with the tease of Red Hood in a solo Batman movie since the character has gotten so popular the past couple of years starting with the animated movie back in 2010.
On July 14 2015 06:18 Rookie6 wrote: And do you guys think it´s better to make a separate thread for the Suicide Squad or we keep all in this one for now?
Seperate thread for sure. People are already confused enough. Even in 1 year some people will go watch Superman vs Batman and wait for the Joker's appearance...
Are we sure there won't be Joker in the movie, even if it's only in Batman's flashbacks? We clearly see an old suit vandalized in a way that suggests the Jokers involvement ("the jokes on you"). The red handwriting about letting his parents die could also have been from Joker, theoretically. The latter is less likely since it would imply Joker knows his real identity.
I still strongly believe it's Jason Todd that sent the newspaper to Bruce. They're playing with the tease of Red Hood in a solo Batman movie since the character has gotten so popular the past couple of years starting with the animated movie back in 2010.
And that old suit is a Robin suit so it's possible. I'd personally love to see Red Hood.
I would also be very excited if they just accepted that Batgirl and Nightwing were out there in the world, doing stuff. If they could make an entire Batfamily movie and not feel the need to do origin stories for all of them it would be so good.
I will also point out that Affleck directing a Batman film is the best thing that could happen to Bats in a while. All of his films that he directed are amazing.
I have faith in our new Batgandpa hope they make it the fight with Superman for bats to give him some real hurting with Kryptonid in some way but in the panel Snyder said this will be different from Dark Knight Returns so my hopes are slim
Not a huge comic book buff. Can someone explain to me how batman can even fight superman? Wouldn't superman just sneeze and the shockwave alone be enough to knock batman out?
On December 01 2015 16:05 Emnjay808 wrote: Not a huge comic book buff. Can someone explain to me how batman can even fight superman? Wouldn't superman just sneeze and the shockwave alone be enough to knock batman out?
batman has historically used sick armor and various forms of kryptonite (superman's vulnerability, a mineral from his homeworld that weakens him)
On December 01 2015 16:05 Emnjay808 wrote: Not a huge comic book buff. Can someone explain to me how batman can even fight superman? Wouldn't superman just sneeze and the shockwave alone be enough to knock batman out?
ur right in that if they were both in enclosed space and had to brawl it out, superman would win hands down. But batman has been shown to be extremely well calculated so its a hard time imaging him ever putting himself in a situation where he doesnt have a winning plan (usually involving kryptonite of course im not sure batman knows of its existance assuming if this is not long after the Zod fight) Which is kinda why i think its a dream sequence, this is different from being trapped by the Joker or something superman attacking him while unprepared is not something he could overcome.
Theres also alot of speculation on how the movie turns out as a whole in terms of plot.
heres a bit from the animated movie series theres no spoiler of the batman vs superman (as the movie seems to have its own storyline aka no comic equivalent) of Superman vs batman + green lantern
On December 01 2015 16:05 Emnjay808 wrote: Not a huge comic book buff. Can someone explain to me how batman can even fight superman? Wouldn't superman just sneeze and the shockwave alone be enough to knock batman out?
Superman does not kill, Batman abuses that knowledge.
On December 01 2015 16:05 Emnjay808 wrote: Not a huge comic book buff. Can someone explain to me how batman can even fight superman? Wouldn't superman just sneeze and the shockwave alone be enough to knock batman out?
Superman does not kill, Batman abuses that knowledge.
tho batman more so than superman (not killing that is)
On December 01 2015 16:05 Emnjay808 wrote: Not a huge comic book buff. Can someone explain to me how batman can even fight superman? Wouldn't superman just sneeze and the shockwave alone be enough to knock batman out?
Superman does not kill, Batman abuses that knowledge.
tho batman more so than superman (not killing that is)
Superman can kill by accident if he loses concentration for a second, Batman must decide to kill to do so. That is very different. That means everything Superman does is way below his true power level.
But Superman does kill, Man of Steel ends with him snapping a dude's neck. If he feels he has to because if he doesn't innocents will perish then Superman will choke a bitch.
the only reason why batman can even be in justice league is more or less only because of his popularity. he is always prepared is such a stupid excuse, there are billions of ways he can get killed by not just batman but every other villain. Imagine him being able to prepare himself for all situation from a total planet destruction by apocalypse to a random food poisoning by joker/average mob
On December 01 2015 19:02 BEARDiaguz wrote: But Superman does kill, Man of Steel ends with him snapping a dude's neck. If he feels he has to because if he doesn't innocents will perish then Superman will choke a bitch.
I mean he has killed, I think it what is being said is more on the most general of curves kind of situations Superman doesn't without getting bogged down in canon vs. non cannon and which superman films "count." No superman expert here though.
On December 01 2015 19:02 BEARDiaguz wrote: But Superman does kill, Man of Steel ends with him snapping a dude's neck. If he feels he has to because if he doesn't innocents will perish then Superman will choke a bitch.
Zod is a special case. And he only did it because Zod threatened innocents. Batman going vs Superman with no innocents in the way is different.
As for this movie, I expect epic story failure. Unless either Batman or Superman are mind controlled Batman has no reason to go after Superman. The reason for their clash in the comic was a stretch but more believable than what was suggested to be a reason in this movie + Show Spoiler +
Batman going after Superman because during clash with Zod one of Wayne Enterprise buildings was demolished with a certain number of people dead as a result
. Batman will be studying Superman, there is no logical way that he can come to a conclusion Superman needs to die when everything Superman did was do his best to save innocents. Superman even surrenders so to save people of Earth until he learns Zod plans to enslave Earth anyways. I really hope the movie manages to sell this reason for Batman actions, but since MoS movie was kind of bad story wise as well I don't expect much.
On December 01 2015 16:05 Emnjay808 wrote: Not a huge comic book buff. Can someone explain to me how batman can even fight superman? Wouldn't superman just sneeze and the shockwave alone be enough to knock batman out?
Superman does not kill, Batman abuses that knowledge.
To be fair, comic book Batman does not kill either. And Superman has limits to his powers, that Batman abuses. Plus he those green rocks that always get employed.
One of the problems with Superman is his power level has varied wildly throughout the years. The Superman from Man of Steel is a very toned down version of comic book Superman, where he can be thrown around and stunned by missiles and chain guns. And really that is the best Superman because he is most interesting when he can be harmed.
And comic book Batman has some crazy shit in cold storage. And the movie will deal with Batman's fear of Superman going bad. Not that he is currently bad, but Batman's complete lack of faith in people to remain good. And someone like Superman going bad is his greatest fear.