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Well they also say Kerrigan was sooo evil in BW and had nothing human left. While in the ending, she finds a good excuse to not kill everyone. Games usually just leave alot open to interpretation, thats why people get so different opinions on something. For me it was just natural how Kerrigan and Raynor progressed throughout Sc2, with what i knew from Sc1 about them.
I felt like Mengsk lost some edge though. But I guess he didn't want to give up his power.
And I agree give some love to Zuljin, he was around since Warcraft 2!
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The only thing that really rubbed me the wrong way about the SC2 storyline (silliness aside) was the reimagination of the Overmind's motives for its actions in SC.
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From what i remember, Raynor was pretty pissed with Kerrigan when she murdered Phoenix in the BW "True Colors" mission. But at the same time, he could never forgive himself for letting her behind in SC, so its understandable. Still too gay for my taste and i predict this saga will end with a cliche alliance of Terrans, Protoss and Zergs.
Artanis as a zealot in HOTS also surprised me, since he was always piloting his Scout. Till i realize there is no one else alive to take the Zealot role, kkk. I wish the next support hero will be Anduin Llane Wrynn =)
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Found the Overmind/Tassadar thing a bit silly as well at first. But its pretty much the same thing as when the topic of "AIs breaking free of the restrictions humans gave them to keep them in line" arises. Just that its biological creations this time around.
And well Tassadar just pulls a StarWars. Post Death saving the galaxy Badassary
And right Valerian became the Terran boss now probably. So Terrans might really be there when the final showdown comes. But making an alliance to beat the worst bad guy up is nothing new in the Sc universe, its common practice lol.
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I just want a male barbarian for skin. When i see ugly candy muradin skin my eyes burns...
Also D2 really needs love. Bishibosh-Rakanishu (Rakkanissshuuu), The Smith, The Summoner, Endugu(unfortunately just a skin for Nazeebo), Izual, Nihlathak...
And ofc Andariel, Mephisto and Baal (I hate Duriel. He was soo hard. Holy Freeze is so strong) At least they should give us the real bosses.
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First I thought Andariel would be a good skin for Kerrigan, but then I remembered the criticism Nova's skater girl skin got for being overly sexualized, so I dismissed the notion.
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On October 27 2015 12:45 Hier wrote: First I thought Andariel would be a good skin for Kerrigan, but then I remembered the criticism Nova's skater girl skin got for being overly sexualized, so I dismissed the notion.
Nova's skater girl costume is fairly realistic to roller derby culture, so I'm not sure that it's unfairly sexualized.
Kerrigan's succubus costume, on the other hand....
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On October 27 2015 11:33 FeyFey wrote: And right Valerian became the Terran boss now probably. So Terrans might really be there when the final showdown comes. But making an alliance to beat the worst bad guy up is nothing new in the Sc universe, its common practice lol.
But that's what made the BW campaign so good; most of it wasn't banding together to fight against a greater evil. If you think about the Protoss campaign from Vanilla or the Terran campaign from BW, they were all centered around internal struggles and political conflict rather than wars between species or trying to beat some dark shadow looming beyond the horizon by banding together. Alliances were messy and last minute and were usually either the force of blackmail or ended in betrayal (or Omega, where they just straight up lose cause Kerrigan is a baws).
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Yeah Blizzard don't really acknowledge their legacy stuff like SC1, D1/2, WC3 anymore and it's a shame. Of course they need to promote their latest games so it's understandable but there are so many cool heroes they could take from the older games. Or well, at least their designs. And I don't like how they just created a random medic character when there already are plenty of well known medics from the games. Like at least Sonya, Valla and the rest are the actual D3 characters and not some new random guys.
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Diablo is from D1/2, as he is not a femme diablo.
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Russian Federation1607 Posts
Oh, come on, Lost Vikings are from The Lost Vikings
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And the Necromancer has three quest/events in D3. Like I said the idea that Blizzard is ignoring their history is selective bias at best (and completely ignores all the callbacks in WoW). The thing is, they can't just rehash everything again and again so certain stuff is going to be left behind.
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None of it is selective bias... Freezard gets it.
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On October 27 2015 16:17 SC2John wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 11:33 FeyFey wrote: And right Valerian became the Terran boss now probably. So Terrans might really be there when the final showdown comes. But making an alliance to beat the worst bad guy up is nothing new in the Sc universe, its common practice lol. But that's what made the BW campaign so good; most of it wasn't banding together to fight against a greater evil. If you think about the Protoss campaign from Vanilla or the Terran campaign from BW, they were all centered around internal struggles and political conflict rather than wars between species or trying to beat some dark shadow looming beyond the horizon by banding together. Alliances were messy and last minute and were usually either the force of blackmail or ended in betrayal (or Omega, where they just straight up lose cause Kerrigan is a baws).
For me the whole of Sc1 was banding together with lesser evils to beat up the big evil, so can't relate to that. But in Sc1 you also had the you are helping a bad guy to beat up a bad guy theme. In Sc2 its a giant march to purge every evil. Lost hope Kerrigan, Duran and Mengsk. But thats because unlike in Sc1 in Sc2 you are one of 3(4) heroes. Not just some faceless Commander that does what his current boss tells him. And because they want to close out there Story.
So I really think they should change back to that perspective.
As for evil Blizzard neglecting their old games. I don't recall many other developers that offer their old games for free. On that note, just imagine they would bring Kyle Blackthorne into Heroes lol.
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On October 28 2015 02:40 Hier wrote: None of it is selective bias... Freezard gets it.
Cain being in all 3 Diablo games, Medivh (who's from WC1!) and Alleria (someone people like to harp on as forgotten by Blizz too) being skins in Hearthstone, Uther being in every Warcraft property since WC2. SC2 continuing with the Hybrids and Duran as the ultimate threat from BW. Sure a lot of hushing up their legacy stuff.
There's been a lot of continuity between the different installments, but things also change by necessity. Sorry your favorite character didn't make the transition.
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On October 28 2015 03:55 Wuster wrote: Sorry your favorite character didn't make the transition.
so you ADMIT they just callously forget old IP.
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edit- deleted twitch meme meant to convey that I'm kidding
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On October 28 2015 03:55 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 02:40 Hier wrote: None of it is selective bias... Freezard gets it. Cain being in all 3 Diablo games, Medivh (who's from WC1!) and Alleria (someone people like to harp on as forgotten by Blizz too) being skins in Hearthstone, Uther being in every Warcraft property since WC2. SC2 continuing with the Hybrids and Duran as the ultimate threat from BW. Sure a lot of hushing up their legacy stuff. There's been a lot of continuity between the different installments, but things also change by necessity. Sorry your favorite character didn't make the transition. In my original post I said a name belonging exclusively to a non-current instalment. So far there are no counter examples. Come on man.
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On October 28 2015 04:58 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 03:55 Wuster wrote:On October 28 2015 02:40 Hier wrote: None of it is selective bias... Freezard gets it. Cain being in all 3 Diablo games, Medivh (who's from WC1!) and Alleria (someone people like to harp on as forgotten by Blizz too) being skins in Hearthstone, Uther being in every Warcraft property since WC2. SC2 continuing with the Hybrids and Duran as the ultimate threat from BW. Sure a lot of hushing up their legacy stuff. There's been a lot of continuity between the different installments, but things also change by necessity. Sorry your favorite character didn't make the transition. In my original post I said a name belonging exclusively to a non-current instalment. So far there are no counter examples. Come on man.
The Lost Vikings was offered as a counterexample by someone.
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On October 28 2015 05:03 MotherFox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 04:58 Hier wrote:On October 28 2015 03:55 Wuster wrote:On October 28 2015 02:40 Hier wrote: None of it is selective bias... Freezard gets it. Cain being in all 3 Diablo games, Medivh (who's from WC1!) and Alleria (someone people like to harp on as forgotten by Blizz too) being skins in Hearthstone, Uther being in every Warcraft property since WC2. SC2 continuing with the Hybrids and Duran as the ultimate threat from BW. Sure a lot of hushing up their legacy stuff. There's been a lot of continuity between the different installments, but things also change by necessity. Sorry your favorite character didn't make the transition. In my original post I said a name belonging exclusively to a non-current instalment. So far there are no counter examples. Come on man. The Lost Vikings was offered as a counterexample by someone. You don't really understand what I mean by "non-current instalment". There is no The Lost Vikings 2 featuring Bill, Rob, and Don instead of Olaf, Erik, and Baleog.
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On October 28 2015 05:13 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 05:03 MotherFox wrote:On October 28 2015 04:58 Hier wrote:On October 28 2015 03:55 Wuster wrote:On October 28 2015 02:40 Hier wrote: None of it is selective bias... Freezard gets it. Cain being in all 3 Diablo games, Medivh (who's from WC1!) and Alleria (someone people like to harp on as forgotten by Blizz too) being skins in Hearthstone, Uther being in every Warcraft property since WC2. SC2 continuing with the Hybrids and Duran as the ultimate threat from BW. Sure a lot of hushing up their legacy stuff. There's been a lot of continuity between the different installments, but things also change by necessity. Sorry your favorite character didn't make the transition. In my original post I said a name belonging exclusively to a non-current instalment. So far there are no counter examples. Come on man. The Lost Vikings was offered as a counterexample by someone. You don't really understand what I mean by "non-current instalment". There is no The Lost Vikings 2 featuring Bill, Rob, and Don instead of Olaf, Erik, and Baleog.
Also like I said, Diablo is the diablo from Diablo 2, not diablo 3. They were very different in appearance and fighting abilities, and were by definition different people since the soulstone is the common element.
Unless I'm still not understanding what you mean by non-current.
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