Marvel Universe (Film) Discussion Thread - Page 4
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Kipsate
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On November 25 2015 19:17 Kipsate wrote: As someone who doesn't read the comics I find it hard to believe that they can have Cap'n and Budd beating the shit out of Iron Man. I hope it goes further then ''hurr durr my friend was once evil but he damn sure is a good guy now'' versus ''He should be tried for the crimes he comitted hurr durr''. If not the plot is just w/e. Seems character assassination on both counts but maybe I don't know the comics very well. Comic is much more complicated and actually makes (some) sense. | ||
zoLo
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Plansix
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On November 25 2015 19:17 Kipsate wrote: As someone who doesn't read the comics I find it hard to believe that they can have Cap'n and Budd beating the shit out of Iron Man. I hope it goes further then ''hurr durr my friend was once evil but he damn sure is a good guy now'' versus ''He should be tried for the crimes he comitted hurr durr''. If not the plot is just w/e. Seems character assassination on both counts but maybe I don't know the comics very well. It is going to go along the lines that Captain America doesn’t believe Bucky will get a fair trial or that people will believe he was mind controlled/brain washed. Tony thinks he can get a fair trial. We also don’t know what Bucky is up to, but I bet is looking into other Hydra projects and the Capp wants to help. I think it is going to come down to the government not being willing to accept that mind control/brain washing can rob someone of all agency and Capp going “fuck you guys.” Exactly why Tony is against Capp is yet to be seen , but I have faith it will be explained well. Edit: and its not going to be about the registration act because most of the marvel heroes have public identities. It just doesn't play in the MCU. | ||
chipmonklord17
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TanKLoveR
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Plansix
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On November 26 2015 05:17 TanKLoveR wrote: It's extremely odd to see T'challa being on Tony's side because in the comic he was VERY much against a lot of the shit Tony wanted to do, like the Illuminati and the whole registration act thing which Tony supported. I'll be very interested in seeing what his motivations are in the movie universe. Great trailer, hoping this will be as goood or better than Winter Soldier. I bet its something to do with the Winter Solider killing or harming some of his people. But maybe not. | ||
chipmonklord17
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riotjune
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WolfintheSheep
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On November 27 2015 13:21 Tien Vu wrote: how is it even possible for a peak human superhero like Captain America to fight Stark, who uses a nuclear power armor and has gone toe to toe with physical monsters like the Hulk and Thor, and not getting squashed? this is just dumb. Stark couldn't fight the Hulk without a suit specially designed to do it. And he was technically fighting Thor head-on, but it was fairly clear that the suit was getting busted up, but Thor was just getting knocked around a bit. Also, Stark's been shown to really suck in actual fights. Long-range weaponry and fly-bys are his entire schtick, any time he actually starts getting hit with anything and he spends 5 seconds staring at flickering HUDs. | ||
Sentenal
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Anyway, the trailer confuses me. It almost makes it seen like Captain America is the one in the "wrong". The part of the trailer with the Cap-Iron Man exchange that went something like "Sorry Tony, you know I wouldn't do this if I had any other choice. But hes my friend." "...So was I." Its portraying Cap as the one who is betraying people and being the instigator of the infighting here. Maybe in the actual film he will be set up to be more heroic, but as for now, I dunno. | ||
riotjune
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Cap can also tank anything, including a tank shell or the Mjolnir, as long as he's got the vibranium. I don't even know how Iron Man can take a tank gun head-on without becoming a red smear inside the suit, must be some impressive gyroscope or liquid lcl tech... Seriously though, only way Steve stands a chance against Tony is if they were fighting in confined close quarters combat. If they were out in the open and Iron Man was flying around playing keep away with long range unibeams and missiles, Cap's gonna have a bad time just like Wolvie. | ||
Sentenal
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WolfintheSheep
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Sentenal
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riotjune
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Yea, don't know how Cap's gonna get through that, he must've gotten a lot faster and tougher since Avengers 2. | ||
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