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kitaman27
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On January 09 2016 00:24 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 00:06 Fidei86 wrote: I've really enjoyed everyone pointing out how badly I played. It has been an enjoyable process. <3 Obv you did something good since your team won without a scum lynch!
Fidei is like the valedictorian that freaks out because he got a 97 on a test.
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Welcome back Shapelog, I hope you are well.
James, I think I'm just going to say something to you I've always said, and ritoky and a few others say, mafia is a team game. Everyone has to play their role and work with each other. You lot strategised very well, and as Mage even said in the qt itself, disruption was needed in mylo and you ran it very well.
Don't sell yourself short. <3
Even if you were bussed, it would have appeared that a plan was behind it and associative reads were being made away from your teammates.
Not everyone can "carry" town or mafia. Even DYH told you in that qt you need to aim for different objectives to disassociate and you did what was needed.
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On January 08 2016 22:45 Rels wrote: Man the game in which I don't play, there is a scumslip. I would have loved pushing that scumslip and FINALLY BE RIGHT FOR ONCE ABOUT A SCUMSLIP
That was something I was 50/50 on in of itself, but by then I already knew Fidei was mafia based on meta.
The term/concept that was actually new to me was chainsaw defence. I have actually never heard of that term.
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On January 08 2016 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 02:52 NocturneMage wrote: Also I did think that Fidei would get caught out on vote analysis for the tail vote on scott.
And Onegu did push Fidei and GB but since others voted GB, he voted GB over Fidei. idk.. From what i know he voted at the last minute(s) of the day phase(?) when the vote was already 5-3 or something. In other words, purely from the vote's perspective the vote doesn't matter at all regardless of his alignment, so imo you can't tell anything about it. Sure you could probably go into his reasoning for changing his vote but i guess that could be explained with some "i came back and i saw i was the counter-wagon so as i know i am town ofc i am gonna vote for my counter-wagon...." stuff that is in itself not scummy. Yeah but if your filter consists of "pushing Fidei" with only saying "he scumslipped" over and over again that doesn't really qualify as pushing someone.... It is just mindlessly yelling something people are never gonna believe.
Until people realize that it was a scumslip. Like the scumslip you made in Witchcraft 2 that I found you with.
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On January 07 2016 14:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:I would like to know the following though: Show nested quote +scott31337 (6): Irishbound, NocturneMage, mderg, GiygaS, GlowingBear, Fidei86 Fidei86 (3): Onegu, nooniansoong, scott31337 nooniansoong (1): Shapelog GlowingBear (1): Kmatt This is the final votecount from D1. Onegu and kush (mainly, and also the townies on scott), why did you decide that Fidei is not mafia on D2? There was never any serious push on anyone except for Glowingbear/Onegu on D2, what suddenly changed? Like you guys had at least a semi-serious counterwagon for the D1 lynch and imo Fidei didn't really do anything particularly townie during the night. (when someone has 2 scumreads in a game where there is 3 mafia, it is extremely unlike they have, at the same time five null reads -- unless they are scum)
I never dropped my scum read on him. I was 100% sure that was a scumslip but really doubted I could get him lynched for it.
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On January 02 2016 23:50 Onegu wrote: Clap for wall of text. Fword dude is mafia so is gb. Happy to vote either of them today.
##Vote GB
On January 03 2016 00:50 Onegu wrote: GB not deciding to defend himself just saying it is a town case from kmatt is really telling.
And yes I will be tunneled on to fword dude and GB until they are dead, I am dead or it is lylo then I will reevaluate in lylo. Tunnel for now.
On January 03 2016 05:03 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2016 04:16 nooniansoong wrote: His scumread of fidei is disproportionate to the reasoning behind it. I need to learn to consolidate my posts sry Why is this? That is 100% a scumslip.
On January 04 2016 06:08 Onegu wrote: Not suprised Fword dude confirmed scum was a auto vote on me.
Not sure where you get I dropped my Fword dude read on day 2 Rayn....
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On January 08 2016 22:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 22:29 GlowingBear wrote:On January 08 2016 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 08 2016 07:51 GiygaS wrote: May make a chrome extension this weekend to annotate posts like geript did for personal notes actually. Would anyone else be interested? what does this mean? i am interested. On January 08 2016 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:On January 07 2016 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 07 2016 23:44 disformation wrote:@GiygaS: Don't be too hard on yourself. You had the right ideas in some cases and where like the only one really realizing that there was something really bad going on. But as I said, next game I want to see you having a bit more impact on the game and doing a bit more work, especially when you realize that something is off. I wish you had tried to use your coaching QT a bit more though, but I can also understand if you where trying to learn the game on your own. Yeah you tried and it wasn't that bad tbh. If not anything else at least you didn't get mislynched and well... none of the townies had really good reads based on the outcome of the game so... Also idk... have you played mafia elsewhere in the meantime? I remember you in some TL Mafia [insert number here] game ~2-3yrs ago. NAH I had Kmatt on day1 and ive correctly suspected NM true. it doesn't matter much though if everyone wants to kil lyou with fire and you get lynched. and you voted for scott in the end... True I still don't understand why I was so scummy, but whatever
ROFL yeah it's probably this
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On January 09 2016 04:02 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 08 2016 02:52 NocturneMage wrote: Also I did think that Fidei would get caught out on vote analysis for the tail vote on scott.
And Onegu did push Fidei and GB but since others voted GB, he voted GB over Fidei. idk.. From what i know he voted at the last minute(s) of the day phase(?) when the vote was already 5-3 or something. In other words, purely from the vote's perspective the vote doesn't matter at all regardless of his alignment, so imo you can't tell anything about it. Sure you could probably go into his reasoning for changing his vote but i guess that could be explained with some "i came back and i saw i was the counter-wagon so as i know i am town ofc i am gonna vote for my counter-wagon...." stuff that is in itself not scummy. Yeah but if your filter consists of "pushing Fidei" with only saying "he scumslipped" over and over again that doesn't really qualify as pushing someone.... It is just mindlessly yelling something people are never gonna believe. Until people realize that it was a scumslip. Like the scumslip you made in Witchcraft 2 that I found you with. I can find around 10 games of myself doing the same, or writing scum instead of town or vice versa or something similar -- as town. So there is that.
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On January 08 2016 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 07:51 GiygaS wrote: May make a chrome extension this weekend to annotate posts like geript did for personal notes actually. Would anyone else be interested? what does this mean? i am interested. Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:On January 07 2016 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 07 2016 23:44 disformation wrote:@GiygaS: Don't be too hard on yourself. You had the right ideas in some cases and where like the only one really realizing that there was something really bad going on. But as I said, next game I want to see you having a bit more impact on the game and doing a bit more work, especially when you realize that something is off. I wish you had tried to use your coaching QT a bit more though, but I can also understand if you where trying to learn the game on your own. Yeah you tried and it wasn't that bad tbh. If not anything else at least you didn't get mislynched and well... none of the townies had really good reads based on the outcome of the game so... Also idk... have you played mafia elsewhere in the meantime? I remember you in some TL Mafia [insert number here] game ~2-3yrs ago. NAH I had Kmatt on day1 and ive correctly suspected NM true. it doesn't matter much though if everyone wants to kil lyou with fire and you get lynched. and you voted for scott in the end... Basically inject code in to the site that adds an annotate button under each post. If you've annotated something it shows up as a little notepad to the side of the post. Maybe a quote-copy button as well so you don't need to open a tab, copy paste, close the tab.
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On January 08 2016 19:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:The problem with scott is the same kinda problem that people have with VayneAuthority. People don't interact with them a single bit. They just watch them post and at the EoD (or before) they decide "well you haven't posted anything meaningful now you die". It's an easy lynch for mafia, but usually town's fault. If you feel like someone isn't making conclusions / posting enough / discussing relevant matters -- guide them onto talking about what YOU want them to talk about (relevant matters). Interact with them. In hindsight, scott had (after his earlier reads posts) these thoughts; I think Onegu has good reads as town --> I think Onegu is town --> I wanna sheep him onto lynching Fidei. wow.. wanted to lynch mafia.
Thanks man <3
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On January 09 2016 08:46 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 08 2016 07:51 GiygaS wrote: May make a chrome extension this weekend to annotate posts like geript did for personal notes actually. Would anyone else be interested? what does this mean? i am interested. On January 08 2016 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:On January 07 2016 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 07 2016 23:44 disformation wrote:@GiygaS: Don't be too hard on yourself. You had the right ideas in some cases and where like the only one really realizing that there was something really bad going on. But as I said, next game I want to see you having a bit more impact on the game and doing a bit more work, especially when you realize that something is off. I wish you had tried to use your coaching QT a bit more though, but I can also understand if you where trying to learn the game on your own. Yeah you tried and it wasn't that bad tbh. If not anything else at least you didn't get mislynched and well... none of the townies had really good reads based on the outcome of the game so... Also idk... have you played mafia elsewhere in the meantime? I remember you in some TL Mafia [insert number here] game ~2-3yrs ago. NAH I had Kmatt on day1 and ive correctly suspected NM true. it doesn't matter much though if everyone wants to kil lyou with fire and you get lynched. and you voted for scott in the end... Basically inject code in to the site that adds an annotate button under each post. If you've annotated something it shows up as a little notepad to the side of the post. Maybe a quote-copy button as well so you don't need to open a tab, copy paste, close the tab. Ahh... okay. I thought it had something to do with post-game discussion. Okay i am not interested -- i have no idea how to code. ^^ But it sure seems a nice add.
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Rayn, I agree with your analysis of who the best DT check was. However, DT wasn't going to have an impact on this game as he would have been blocked both nights.
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On January 09 2016 10:02 DoYouHas wrote: Rayn, I agree with your analysis of who the best DT check was. However, DT wasn't going to have an impact on this game as he would have been blocked both nights. Yeah it was just for future. Usually it is always the best thing to check the counter-wagon the following night when a townie flips just to find if there is motivation for scum behind the voting or not -- if the vote analysis gets you anywhere or not. I also think Shining made the correct play on N2 in trying to check GB.
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On January 09 2016 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 04:02 Onegu wrote:On January 08 2016 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 08 2016 02:52 NocturneMage wrote: Also I did think that Fidei would get caught out on vote analysis for the tail vote on scott.
And Onegu did push Fidei and GB but since others voted GB, he voted GB over Fidei. idk.. From what i know he voted at the last minute(s) of the day phase(?) when the vote was already 5-3 or something. In other words, purely from the vote's perspective the vote doesn't matter at all regardless of his alignment, so imo you can't tell anything about it. Sure you could probably go into his reasoning for changing his vote but i guess that could be explained with some "i came back and i saw i was the counter-wagon so as i know i am town ofc i am gonna vote for my counter-wagon...." stuff that is in itself not scummy. Yeah but if your filter consists of "pushing Fidei" with only saying "he scumslipped" over and over again that doesn't really qualify as pushing someone.... It is just mindlessly yelling something people are never gonna believe. Until people realize that it was a scumslip. Like the scumslip you made in Witchcraft 2 that I found you with. I can find around 10 games of myself doing the same, or writing scum instead of town or vice versa or something similar -- as town. So there is that.
I understand that. It was he called me a mislynch, not town or mafia getting confused. He goes onegu is a easy mislynch this game. Not onegu is always a easy mislynch as town.
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On January 09 2016 03:04 Half the Sky wrote: Welcome back Shapelog, I hope you are well.
James, I think I'm just going to say something to you I've always said, and ritoky and a few others say, mafia is a team game. Everyone has to play their role and work with each other. You lot strategised very well, and as Mage even said in the qt itself, disruption was needed in mylo and you ran it very well.
Don't sell yourself short. <3
Even if you were bussed, it would have appeared that a plan was behind it and associative reads were being made away from your teammates.
Not everyone can "carry" town or mafia. Even DYH told you in that qt you need to aim for different objectives to disassociate and you did what was needed.
Only onegu is the hard carry. If only people learned to listen to him what a world it would be.
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On January 09 2016 12:38 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 03:04 Half the Sky wrote: Welcome back Shapelog, I hope you are well.
James, I think I'm just going to say something to you I've always said, and ritoky and a few others say, mafia is a team game. Everyone has to play their role and work with each other. You lot strategised very well, and as Mage even said in the qt itself, disruption was needed in mylo and you ran it very well.
Don't sell yourself short. <3
Even if you were bussed, it would have appeared that a plan was behind it and associative reads were being made away from your teammates.
Not everyone can "carry" town or mafia. Even DYH told you in that qt you need to aim for different objectives to disassociate and you did what was needed. Only onegu is the hard carry. If only people learned to listen to him what a world it would be. Hard carries can hard carry a game and use their influence to push through lynches. You didn't seem to even garner votes to your cause.
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On January 09 2016 15:24 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 12:38 Onegu wrote:On January 09 2016 03:04 Half the Sky wrote: Welcome back Shapelog, I hope you are well.
James, I think I'm just going to say something to you I've always said, and ritoky and a few others say, mafia is a team game. Everyone has to play their role and work with each other. You lot strategised very well, and as Mage even said in the qt itself, disruption was needed in mylo and you ran it very well.
Don't sell yourself short. <3
Even if you were bussed, it would have appeared that a plan was behind it and associative reads were being made away from your teammates.
Not everyone can "carry" town or mafia. Even DYH told you in that qt you need to aim for different objectives to disassociate and you did what was needed. Only onegu is the hard carry. If only people learned to listen to him what a world it would be. Hard carries can hard carry a game and use their influence to push through lynches. You didn't seem to even garner votes to your cause.
I thought hard carries were mostly strength heroes ]
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On January 09 2016 15:24 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 12:38 Onegu wrote:On January 09 2016 03:04 Half the Sky wrote: Welcome back Shapelog, I hope you are well.
James, I think I'm just going to say something to you I've always said, and ritoky and a few others say, mafia is a team game. Everyone has to play their role and work with each other. You lot strategised very well, and as Mage even said in the qt itself, disruption was needed in mylo and you ran it very well.
Don't sell yourself short. <3
Even if you were bussed, it would have appeared that a plan was behind it and associative reads were being made away from your teammates.
Not everyone can "carry" town or mafia. Even DYH told you in that qt you need to aim for different objectives to disassociate and you did what was needed. Only onegu is the hard carry. If only people learned to listen to him what a world it would be. Hard carries can hard carry a game and use their influence to push through lynches. You didn't seem to even garner votes to your cause.
This isnt true, when your supports dont follow you and you try to 5v1 you still lose. Not my fault the supports dont understand the game.
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On January 10 2016 00:48 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 15:24 geript wrote:On January 09 2016 12:38 Onegu wrote:On January 09 2016 03:04 Half the Sky wrote: Welcome back Shapelog, I hope you are well.
James, I think I'm just going to say something to you I've always said, and ritoky and a few others say, mafia is a team game. Everyone has to play their role and work with each other. You lot strategised very well, and as Mage even said in the qt itself, disruption was needed in mylo and you ran it very well.
Don't sell yourself short. <3
Even if you were bussed, it would have appeared that a plan was behind it and associative reads were being made away from your teammates.
Not everyone can "carry" town or mafia. Even DYH told you in that qt you need to aim for different objectives to disassociate and you did what was needed. Only onegu is the hard carry. If only people learned to listen to him what a world it would be. Hard carries can hard carry a game and use their influence to push through lynches. You didn't seem to even garner votes to your cause. This isnt true, when your supports dont follow you and you try to 5v1 you still lose. Not my fault the supports dont understand the game. Support +ADC v 5 = 2 dead players. You gotta lead smart.
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On January 10 2016 00:48 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 15:24 geript wrote:On January 09 2016 12:38 Onegu wrote:On January 09 2016 03:04 Half the Sky wrote: Welcome back Shapelog, I hope you are well.
James, I think I'm just going to say something to you I've always said, and ritoky and a few others say, mafia is a team game. Everyone has to play their role and work with each other. You lot strategised very well, and as Mage even said in the qt itself, disruption was needed in mylo and you ran it very well.
Don't sell yourself short. <3
Even if you were bussed, it would have appeared that a plan was behind it and associative reads were being made away from your teammates.
Not everyone can "carry" town or mafia. Even DYH told you in that qt you need to aim for different objectives to disassociate and you did what was needed. Only onegu is the hard carry. If only people learned to listen to him what a world it would be. Hard carries can hard carry a game and use their influence to push through lynches. You didn't seem to even garner votes to your cause. This isnt true, when your supports dont follow you and you try to 5v1 you still lose. Not my fault the supports dont understand the game. You sound like everyone who was stuck in 1400MMR in HoN
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