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Hi everyone,
Many or most of you all know by now the struggle of foreigner and Korean Starcraft players.
Koreans wanting to appeal to a global scene, and foreigners wanting to be good enough to appeal to a global scene.
Recently, Blizzard has acknowledged a lot of interest in stimulating the foreigner scene, and finding ways to help grow local scenes and create local heroes to develop into global superstars.
There's been talk of WCS points as incentives for ladder, Koreans playing forced games on NA ladder, etc. to work toward our goal of growing a foreigner hero.
Now, my suggestion is more catered toward NA growth, but with many of Blizzard's changes, this seems to be a heavily focused demographic.
So, with all this said, this is my proposed solution.
Create a West Coast or Hawaii based server on the KR ladder, similar to how the NA ladder now has an AUS server.
Many Australians have had the pleasure of playing on NA with little-to-no latency this past season, with the implementation of a new NA ladder server, AUS server.
Although this server creates some issues with player latency, overall I find it to have more pros than cons.
With the success of this AUS server introduction, I believe it would be THE BIGGEST factor in strengthening the already dedicated semi-pro NA base.
With this change, NA players would be able to practice on the KR ladder without 200+ ms latency.
I'm sure some of you don't think that should be an excuse; for christ' sake, Polt and ViOlet play the KR ladder from Atlanta, GA (East Coast) with about 230 ms latency; however, if you've watched either of them, they have noted losses due to the latency, and how often times you have to play differently to win a latency-induced game compared to a no-latency Starcraft game; making practice with heavy latency not always the best, even if the practice itself is.
TL;DR Make a West coast or Hawaii server on the KR Ladder to enable NA players to practice on the KR server.
Thanks for reading, and thank you for your consideration.
Best,
Robert "SirRobin" Switts
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This would only let people better compare themselves to Koreans, it won't make them better. Koreans won't get matched with people from freedom land anyway because they already set preference to Korea to avoid Taiwanese players.
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Sounds like it would help, so I'm for it.
Though, I'm confused about having multiple servers per region. Does it actually work? Like would you be able to play with someone, on KR ladder, while he's connected to KR server and you're on NA server? I'm assuming both of you would have to be on the same server for it to work properly, otherwise it won't make a difference (or not much) right?
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On January 15 2016 07:39 ThePrussianPrince wrote: Sounds like it would help, so I'm for it.
Though, I'm confused about having multiple servers per region. Does it actually work? Like would you be able to play with someone, on KR ladder, while he's connected to KR server and you're on NA server? I'm assuming both of you would have to be on the same server for it to work properly, otherwise it won't make a difference (or not much) right?
If they select "Best server" or something like that, then you will be able to play vs. Koreans and you'll both have to play on the Hawaii server, making their latency a little worse, and yours, manageable.
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whats the point of that server if koreans wont play it? they have ping of 3ms on the korean server so they'll never play a hawaii or w/e server
Distance from Honolulu to Seoul is: 4566.4 Miles u realize this ping would be 200+ aswell?
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I have a really hard time picturing this as making NA players better instead of just adding latency to Korean players. You even say it in the OP, but there's been plenty of Koreans that live in NA and play the Korean server and dominate NA players.
NA players need to learn it's more about being closer to the current meta than it is being able to micro slightly better. Sure, practice NA to make sure you *can* micro, but the benefit of the Korean ladder is you are slightly less behind the meta (since it takes a while for the strategies to migrate back to NA). Although, realistically, the current metas are being played and understood in Korean team houses, which is why they have and always will dominate the scene.
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Regardless of your reasoning, the simple fact is: Koreans practice is best, and KR ladder is the best place to practice. What I'm introducing would allow a larger player base access to that top tier practice.
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They might prioritize cleaning a lot of the hackers out of the system before though. It would be a big move for them to create a whole new server region, no?
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On January 15 2016 08:43 SirRobin wrote: Regardless of your reasoning, the simple fact is: Koreans practice is best, and KR ladder is the best place to practice. What I'm introducing would allow a larger player base access to that top tier practice.
I disagree.
A Korean team house is the best way to practice. Having top tier (probably Korean) practice partners is the second best way to practice. Korean ladder is obviously a better way than the NA ladder, but fundamentally the newest metas are being explored internally for tournaments. After the strategies are shown in the relevant tournaments, then they trickle out to the ladder, but by then it's already too late for the foreigners.
Either way, there's been very little evidence to indicate that a foreigner in Korea (even in a Korean practice house), plays *that* much better. Fenix was on IM for forever and never accomplished anything. Major seemed no better. Perhaps Huk/Jinro benefitted being in oGs, but the EG/TL partnership with Thorzain and others in Korea didn't give any tangible results.
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What? Adding an additional server to the KR ladder server pool thats located in the USA wouldnt fix any latency issues... You still have the same latency issue.
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On January 15 2016 09:15 NKexquisite wrote: What? Adding an additional server to the KR ladder server pool thats located in the USA wouldnt fix any latency issues... You still have the same latency issue.
Shhhhh, let the selfish American be selfish. Guy just wants to ruin KR so he can play on it.
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a west coast server already exists.
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