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On January 27 2016 17:23 Eden1892 wrote: Ok I'll grant that you do say Trfel is scummy without much ambiguity near the end of the train of thought post. It's hard to count that for much when you apparently forgot that read in your response to me though.
And you named mex and tea reads just now but said nothing to that effect in the post. If anything you implied mex was scum. Your comments on tea and tumbleweed weren't clearly indicative of any opinion.
Do you care to explain these discrepancies?
What are you talking about?
You havent clearly read my big post have you. Tea I talk about alot when quoting kushs posts saying kush makes many good points and would sheep him. And I talk about my Tea read is effecting my Shape read. How the fuck did I imply mex was scum?
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Good Morning, I am here for an hour or so and will read carefully through the thread since I left but ask any questions if you wish.
To quickly answer a question I saw has come up a few times. Generally of the form "why does nervousness make him town?" I don't know the exact reason. Maybe he is nervous about being mis-lynched, maybe he is anxious to get town read by other players. The point being it is easy to be nervous or anxious if you are a new player. Whatever the reason, I viewed his haphazard posting as a result of over excitement and nerves and that this is typically town.
As to nooniansoong's point about me leaving the thread, I have to say that after my first observations I waited in the thread for probably 30 minutes or more and happily answered his questions. After it seemed no more questions were forthcoming I went to sleep as I get up early each day. It seems an unfair statement that I didn't linger because I was not wanting to be exposed when I happily answered his questions.
If I find any other questions in my read through I will happily answer them but I hope this deals with the confusion people are suffering people.
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On January 27 2016 09:24 Alur wrote: Oh and a question for PepperMinTea: You went out of your way to defend Shapelog, and you were somewhat spooked by MexicanAliens accusations towards Shapelog for vague reasons - but you townread him because "mafia aren't spooky this fast". You also townread Onegu.
Do you have any scumreads?
I'm a little sad that I didn't ask this question before he left. Ended up spending quite a bit of time on my entrypost.
Sorry you are mistaken and I didn't townread Onegu, I actually got asked this very same question earlier. I didn't have any scum reads when you asked this
Shapelog #278
There are several inaccuracies in your post, accidental i'm sure but you need to calm down and read things thoroughly before you start throwing out wild accusations.
The posts you quoted by _MexicanAlien could come from either alignment. Specifically
Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote: Is anyone else here seeing a pattern? This shows he is reading the thread and is trying to actively solve the game. Patterns are usally the first thing the brain notices when Analyzing things.
you don't even know what the pattern is yet? That is why I found your town read farfetched but it fits in with your over excited play.
You go on to say that I "don't town read _MexicanAlien" when that is simply false. if you read the post I say that his post, "initially bugged me but I do think he is leaning town because it is unlikely a mafia noobie would come out early with accusations against a weak player."
You then mention something about how I dropped the overexcited part. Nooniansoong specifically asked me about you being nervous and I answered about you being nervious.
In reality the vote on me is rather poor.
@Onegu
Then you should know new mafia in fourm are much less likely to post than town. Paranoia is a thing.
Totally agree that is why I thought shapelog was town, not sure what point you are trying to make.
That seems to clear up a lot of the nonsense aimed at me. I will give my thoughts about other players soon.
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I need to read Onegu, Eden and Trfel more carefully because that looks fairly interesting.
Prior to that I think darthfoley is my strongest town read so far. Specifically I liked this question
On January 27 2016 11:48 darthfoley wrote: Tumblewood, can you explain why you're town reading Trfel? He has four one liners so far. Which of them makes him lean town for you?
A keen observation and an important question.
I would agree overall with his conclusion of Shapelog
darth I would like to know what you think about Alur.
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On January 27 2016 17:20 _MexicanAlien wrote: I am starting to fully understand the townie reads on Shapelog. Good reasoning and critical thinking @Eden1892
Onegu has seemed slightly scummy, and he's definitely not a cooperative player.
There's still something sketchy about PepperMintTea in my mind though.
Can you explain what Onegu did that makes him scummy?
On January 27 2016 17:32 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 17:23 Eden1892 wrote: Ok I'll grant that you do say Trfel is scummy without much ambiguity near the end of the train of thought post. It's hard to count that for much when you apparently forgot that read in your response to me though.
And you named mex and tea reads just now but said nothing to that effect in the post. If anything you implied mex was scum. Your comments on tea and tumbleweed weren't clearly indicative of any opinion.
Do you care to explain these discrepancies? What are you talking about? You havent clearly read my big post have you. Tea I talk about alot when quoting kushs posts saying kush makes many good points and would sheep him. And I talk about my Tea read is effecting my Shape read. How the fuck did I imply mex was scum?
@Onegu
I'm rather curious how you have come to this conclusion, I think at one point you had me down as "scummy as hell". The scum read is based on nooniansong's scum read of me. I hope that has been cleared up for you. But outside of this you defended me twice.
Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 09:24 Alur wrote: Oh and a question for PepperMinTea: You went out of your way to defend Shapelog, and you were somewhat spooked by MexicanAliens accusations towards Shapelog for vague reasons - but you townread him because "mafia aren't spooky this fast". You also townread Onegu.
Do you have any scumreads?
I'm a little sad that I didn't ask this question before he left. Ended up spending quite a bit of time on my entrypost.
Some people play the game by finding town reads and then doing POE from there this is NAI. The question is fine. Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 09:37 nooniansoong wrote: Another point against pepperminttea: she was in the thread for a very short chunk of time. She did not linger before or after her post. This behavior can be caused by fear of exposing yourself too much. Bleh. Can be caused by being busy...
I would be interested how having, one fairly weak scum accusation, and two reasons you stated are not good reasons. I have come out as scummy as hell. It seems inconsistent. Perhaps you have misunderstood something I wrote.
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I will be here for another 10 minutes and then I have to leave,
if you have any questions then ask them now, otherwise I will get to them this evening.
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Onegu as an experienced veteran seems to really back me up when it comes to scumming Shapelog.
Onegu as a townie veteran would probably know better, and not encourage interpreting bad play as scummy.
Onegu as a Mafia veteran would have wanted to bandwagon Shapelog. Also, Onegu hardly puts forward any original arguments for Shapelog's guilt, instead he just reposts others'. This would allow him to not seem like scum if Shapelog was lynched and flipped Townie.
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Onegu, yes pmts posting pattern doesn't mean she's scum. She could be busy. But I think scum are more likely to post like that which makes her more likely to be scum.
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I'm back. Just read through the many new pages.
I'll start by addressing stuff that was directed towards me.
On January 27 2016 12:28 Trfel wrote:Questions@Alur:How confident are you in Shapelog being mafia? Also, can you explain specifically what you didn't like/understand about PepperMintTea's post? Because I thought I understood it pretty well. @Nooniansoong:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 10:10 nooniansoong wrote: alur yeah that point about MA makes sense. Which point are you referring to, and to what extent do you agree with it? @Onegu:What do you think about Shapelog's alignment, and why?
How confident was I in Shapelog being mafia? Not super confident, even though he was the one exhibiting the most scummy behavior. My post was made early on day 1, and it was entirely plausible that he was being a reckless town player. But his play really stood out to me as not furthering town agenda, so I was giving my honest read of him.
Regarding me considering shapelogs post wierd: A big part of it was probably simply the fact that her reads were at odd's with my own (she townread Shapelog, and she townread MexicanAlien for very different reasons). In addition to that there was the vague "I don't like how he phrased this as a question, but I can't really say why.", which struck me as a little odd. To be honest that fact that noon interrogated her and voted her probably influenced my opinion as well.
Now a question to you Trfel, I don't understand why you'd ask the question directed towards noon.
How the hell can you be unsure what point he's referring to? If you followed the conversation I feel it's very obvious that he's referring the point I initially made in my entry post, and elaborated on in #274. To me it conveys a lack of reading comprehension, since I've only really made one noteworthy point about MA.
Here's the point: On January 27 2016 10:01 Alur wrote:MexicanAlien posted: Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 07:23 _MexicanAlien wrote: Yes why talk about blue roles? This could possibly give the scum information. This may or may not help them but we shouldn't unwittingly give them any more To me, this post suggests that MexicanAlien was not aware of the fact that mafia knows the setup. If he was mafia, he would know that mafia knew the setup. I think, it's WIFOM because it could be a gambit to make himself seem town.
And lastly, PepperMint, reading your post again you're right in that you didn't explicitly townread Onegu. So I misrepresented your position by saying you did.
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Hey PepperMint, You know i was thinking about my case against you this morning. Mainly based how it is on one post. But some things I want to ask/clear up.
1. I Thought the pattern was:
On January 27 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote: Is anyone else here seeing a pattern? I do something/suggest something dumb, Post something un relating Comment on someone elses post and do something dumb again, and then post something unrelating? I though this was the pattern Mexican was talking about. I might be mistaken though, but considering how he he integrated me after i posted this leads me to believe this was what he was talking about. And what he was about to do (interrogate) me.
2. You go on to say that I "don't town read _MexicanAlien" when that is simply false. if you read the post I say that his post, "initially bugged me but I do think he is leaning town because it is unlikely a mafia noobie would come out early with accusations against a weak player." My mistake 100% for missing the bolded piece.
3. So you Answered the question and decided not to post more about it? I mean I don't know your life so you could be a busy person, but honestly that's the probulm with you right now.
Your filter consents of nothing other than that one post and defending that one post. You have not batted a eye to anything unrelated except Onegu and stated that darth is your strongest townie. At least nothing that i see. A course I can be blind, but you haven't done anything amazing that warrants me to believe your town.
On January 27 2016 19:32 PepperMintTea wrote: I will be here for another 10 minutes and then I have to leave,
if you have any questions then ask them now, otherwise I will get to them this evening. See this is my major concern. It's like you are trying not to commit much. Instead of doing what you said you where going to do (Filter read Eden and friends) you just ask for questions, at a time that no one else seems to be on. And it isn't like you couldn't have look at their filter in 10 mins. You could easily glanced at them and give First Impressions. Also I feel you are not committing a read on Onegu on purpose. Who knows, idk maybe she is just busy. She just seems scummy right now to me.
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I am going to filter dive Onegu now. But i want to point out that I do not see Onegu and Peppermint both being scum together. I doubt that Onegu would try to do something like fighting eachother like that with a newbie.
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Good day lads. I already hate shapelog.
I think they're scum. Quite clear they are trying to make themselves seem incredibly towny. No fear of putting a target on their back either.
I mean, lol making a potential setup list is pointless.
On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote: Is anyone else here seeing a pattern? stupid
On January 27 2016 07:40 _MexicanAlien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote: Is anyone else here seeing a pattern? I do something/suggest something dumb, Post something un relating Comment on someone elses post and do something dumb again, and then post something unrelating? WIFOM So the question is why is shapelog suggesting this himself? To throw suspicion elsewhere? To seem ignorant? He is not a noob so he's playing this way on purpose. Either troll or scum
Mexican seems town to me, I wouldnt expect a scum to do something in this tone with this little care for other people.
okay so now im moving along and shape is calling his posts dumb after being called out. ResidentSleeper.
On January 27 2016 08:38 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 08:30 PepperMintTea wrote: Shapelogseems to strike me as overexcited or nervous. I also do not believe he is reading the game carefully enough and he just spouts whatever comes into his head. At first his read of "town lean on MexicanAlien" seems rather farfetched
This seems contradictory. Nervous people don't spout whatever comes into their head. quite the twist on peppers post. I think they were trying to spout "helpful" stuff (ie: the potential rolelists)
i also like alur, there reads are pretty similar to mine.
tumblewood has kind of similar reads to mine, but he is null on pepper. So what the fuck are you doing boy?
My next post will be page 16 onward.
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And Darth, since it appears you're leaning towards me being scum I'll just speak on some comments you've made about me. However, I would've appreciated a more direct line of questioning from you, since I feel that's the route a town player should take when faced with something he considers scummy.
As to my reason A for thinking Shapelog seemed scummy (which you didn't think made sense):
You sort of answered this yourself here:
On January 27 2016 15:47 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 15:41 Onegu wrote:On January 27 2016 15:38 darthfoley wrote: Onegu, I still don't understand how Alur's point A has anything to do with his read that Shapelog is scummy. His point A is basically arguing that what he did (the Kush meta thing) was a stupid thing to do, because it gives mafia!Kush better prep for his playstyle/defense. But the only two ways it's stupid is if
1) Shapelog is town 2) Shapelog and Noon are both mafia and they're setting up meta shit, which is smart.
How does any of that implicate Shapelog as scum? Maybe i'm missing something huge idk The way he started talking about meta of a player before the player even posted. Mafia shape could be talking just to talk. Mafia shape could be trying to pocket town kush. Ah I see what you mean. Meh, it's possible, but I find it unlikely to work because I doubt Kush would give a fuck regardless of his alignment, and Shapelog is all over the place so if I were mafia, I wouldn't be too scared of him (yet?).
As Onegu says, mafia could be talking just to talk. I think it's scummy because I feel like it's such a stupid townplay to mention reads before a player has talked. I understand the argument of it being "too scummy to be actualy scum", which I attempted to convey by saying "Although the fact that he's done all this so fast is a little confusing." immediately after giving my two reasons for scumreading Shapelog.
Regarding:
On January 27 2016 13:53 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 09:24 Alur wrote: Oh and a question for PepperMinTea: You went out of your way to defend Shapelog, and you were somewhat spooked by MexicanAliens accusations towards Shapelog for vague reasons - but you townread him because "mafia aren't spooky this fast". You also townread Onegu.
Do you have any scumreads?
I'm a little sad that I didn't ask this question before he left. Ended up spending quite a bit of time on my entrypost.
I'm a little put off by the fact that you felt like you needed to spend quite a bit of time on your entry post
It's not an unreasonable thing for you to mention, but I put effort into my post, by explaining and sourcing my reads as well as I could. Admitting that I spent a long time on the post also seems like an unnecessary to say if I was mafia (I know it's WIFOM, but I feel it deserves mention.)
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On January 27 2016 13:16 darthfoley wrote: I promise i'm not 8 and that my vocabulary is simply exquisite sick meme
On January 27 2016 13:18 Kuragari42 wrote: This filter thing is amazing.. I wish I had this in my last game.. sick meme x2 (epic sig btw)
anyway. darthfoley is kind of chill, def town for me right now. There posts are quite reactionary. Trifel also a bit towny in my books.
On January 27 2016 15:11 Trfel wrote: Yeah, sorry, I'm not going to give a detailed explanation of my read on PepperMintTea right now because if I'm wrong, that would be a free defense. Which is a pretty stupid thing to do.
I feel that PepperMintTea's reads show critical thinking and an attempt to solve the game, making me think that PepperMintTea is town. I won't elaborate at this time. shit post; town post.
Onegu, scummy to me. Posting long essays mean nothing to me.
lol people like eden are falling for the simple mafia strat for noobs "I will act stupid and hope people townread me"
however i dont agree with their final post in their large manifesto. #368
Shape, scum or not, probably had someone scumreading them, but not anymore. I think the scum took not of the changing reads on shape and quickly either laid off or just changed their reads.
okay so to sum this all up. I dont like onegu or shape. folley seems town. Eden is up in the air for me. trfel seems pretty town to me. other people i honestly dont care about.
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On January 27 2016 07:44 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 07:40 Shapelog wrote:On January 27 2016 07:39 Onegu wrote:On January 27 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote: Is anyone else here seeing a pattern? I do something/suggest something dumb, Post something un relating Comment on someone elses post and do something dumb again, and then post something unrelating? Or you post something dumb trying to get discussion going and I shut it down because it is dumb... Doesn't that make you scum since you want to control the thread and not allow the discussion to develop? Or is that a Oneguy try hard thing? Yup. Trfel already caught me remember? But seriously you are trying to make discussion about things that will not move the thread forward in a helpful way at all. Like what you have brought up only helps scum not town. Onegu has been Concerned about controlling the thread into a helpful way. Yet he has done little to help develop this at all. But the fact is, he emphasizes controlling the thread but doesn't try to help push a pro-townie thread. He seems more interesting in finding reasons to scum read people for any reasons instead of trying to help the town.
Writtened by Onegu Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 07:48 _MexicanAlien wrote: So first shapelog suggests talking about blue roles, then he lists the reason for each blue role to not need help. Very good reasons. yeah this could be Scum trying to make posts without actual content. Why hasn't Onegu pushed this harder? I expect him to try and pressure something out of me about this since he is a Vet.
QUOTE]On January 27 2016 16:36 Onegu wrote:
On January 27 2016 16:11 Eden1892 wrote: I skimmed the early stuff. It's a bit late and I don't really feel like reading the thread in a lot of depth right now, but I got a few early reads worth sharing.
- Shapelog is obviously town, and the first thing I want to do when I get the motivation to read this game in detail (which will be tomorrow, hold me to this and don't let me be lazy) is to read the sequence of people scumreading him early while it was the "in" read to give, because I'm almost positive scum were involved in that.
If I actually have to explain this (and if you need it explained, that's okay; newbie game and all), Shapelog's posting was very spontaneous and "error-prone" in the right way. As Onegu put it, "talking about someone's meta before they even post" is in fact a poor use of a townie's time, because you don't need to call attention to the idea that you have a way to read somebody based on meta. Just make the read in either direction when the trigger behavior you're waiting on manifests itself (or doesn't manifest itself when it should).
But a post like that is never going to come from mafia. Mafia players don't think to themselves: "You know, I should post that I have a meta read on kush before he says anything. That will make me look more townie and advance my agenda." Because it doesn't. It's empty words.
An excited townie, however, who is trying to get discussion started and generate meaningful data for themselves and other players to read, might be overeager and start talking about this tell before it manifests, because it's meaningful to them (even if it doesn't do anything yet). And if you read the rest of Shapelog's posts, eagerness and excitement are pretty reasonable descriptors of his emotional state as he plays.
So we can either assume that Shapelog is a bad noob scum player, who also doesn't have anybody on his team to tell him that his early posting isn't doing anything to help, and who also doesn't have a scum coach telling him the same thing... or we can just assume that he is an eager townie, as his posts read.
- Onegu is my current top suspect for a few okay-ish reasons:
1. Not recognizing Shapelog as obvious town. He talks about Shapelog's posts being weird, his posting direction as not helping town, blabla... ignores all the evidence pointing to the conclusion I just gave you from only skimming the thread, but then avoids giving a concrete read on Shapelog when the action is all centered on Shapelog during that sequence I mentioned at the beginning of this post (p13-14 I think is the right section, where Pepperminttea posted). I expect better from "tryhard Onegu" since I genuinely view the Shapelog read as trivially simple for an experienced player to make.
2. Unusually rigid policies for what is okay to use/discuss. This one's a little convoluted, but hopefully I'll make it clear. At several points during Onegu's interaction with Shapelog, there's these posts that basically say "You're doing X thing. X thing is A Bad Thing. Don't do X thing." Referring to some aspects of scumhunting that are variably useful: metagame reading (sometimes great, sometimes bad), setup spec discussion (same), self-meta (granted, this one is pretty bad always). And he's not wrong when he says them. Shapelog's attempted use of metagame reading of kush was not very productive, and setup spec posting is pretty bad in this setup (which I'll explain in a bit). And there's even a conflating motivator here -- Onegu is an experienced player in a newbie game, so you could argue he feels an impetus to steer the newbies toward more "proper" scumhunting avenues.
But the lack of explanation bothers me a lot, especially given that the things he discusses are variably useful and not clearly always bad. Like he says to stop posting about blues, because it only helps mafia. In this case, it's true: since the mafia know the whole setup, the only thing that can really come from the town discussing the setup is blues accidentally slipping up and making clear that they have extra knowledge of the game state (and thus outing blues to mafia). (Mafia can slip in the same way, but it's hard for townies to distinguish whether the slip is blue or red in nature, and besides, mafia tend to be much more careful about their known information; so it's rare for mafia to slip and much more common for blues to do it, making it bad for town.)
^^ See how easy that explanation was? 3-4 lines. But Onegu doesn't even do that, he just says "this is bad don't do it." It belies the "Onegu is trying to help the newbies get better" explanation, since you would expect an explanation for why something is bad if you're trying to get better by having people tell you something is bad.
As such it reads less like "Onegu trying to help the townies" and more like "Onegu trying to jam up potentially useful (from the standpoint of getting town reads) discussion under the guise of being helpful to newbies."
- kush already seems several orders of magnitude more invested than he was in Unoriginal, where he was mafia. And he made the point I did about Shapelog, and made it first, while people were trying to twist it into a scummy thing for Shapelog to be eager and talking a lot. Early TR for him.
- darthfoley seems much more relaxed and spontaneous than he was in Unoriginal, where he was mafia. He also had a couple of salient points he made that I've forgotten and don't care to look up right now. Early TR here as well.
TL;DR: - Shapelog solid town - kush, darth early tr's - Onegu scummy - There's probably a mafia among the "Shapelog is scummy" crowd from p13-14
1. Why does this make me scummy. I am better than you and can make next level reads you cannot. And the fact that you want to call him basically confirmed town at this point is so fucking random.
2. Why is this AI at all. Ill give you a hint it isnt. Why the fuck do I have to be the one to explain things. If they want to take my word for something without putting critical thinking into things thats on them not me. Me just saying things makes them have to think if what I am saying is correct or not. Im not here to hold their hands. I am here to tell them they are newbies. And then find scum.
You are going on about me saying things then you go and feel the need to then explain what I already said is correct? Then scum read me for not being helpful enough?[/QUOTE] I get a OMGUS vibe from this for reasons I explained. Has anyone else gotten this vibe?
In summary there are things Onegu has done that I find scummy. The fact he doesn't push/pressure his sus. on me seems weird, especially since he is a vet. He comments about how he wants discussions to be pro-townie, but doesn't try to push any pro-town discussions. It is like he is trying to appear active and wanting to solve the game.
Between him and PepperMint I would vote him. At least till Peppermint or some other player does something scummy. ##Unvote ##Vote: Onegu
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@Jesus Nice to meet you. Is Eden town read on me the reason why you up in the air on him?
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Oh and darth, you seem more invested now, so that's definitely something.
But this series of events seems strange to me:
On January 27 2016 12:16 darthfoley wrote: I would agree that Onegu reads town for me so far.
(This was in reply to Tumblewood when he upgraded Onegu to slight townread, and downgraded Trfel to null)
Then Eden presents Onegu as his top suspect. Largely based on the same material that you townread Onegu on.
Then you go on to say:
On January 27 2016 16:26 darthfoley wrote: Yea I really like these posts from Eden.
He's probably my strongest TR so far.
Surely if you thought Onegu was town, you'd discuss the matter with Eden rather than just lauding his post. I for one think it's entirely plausible that Onegu is just asshole town. You look a little flip-floppy here.
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On January 27 2016 13:51 Ikidomari wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 08:49 Alur wrote:Hi boys! First mafia game anywhere ever for me, should be fun. Got interested from watching the Dota 2 community mafia streams. Also casually ghosted a few of the recent games on TL. My observations as of right now:1. Shapelog is the most scummy player to me. Reason A: Announcing you have some sort of tell on a player(noon), before he has even posted seems like a really bad idea. If hes mafia he can now attempt to replicate his his VT play from "the last two games", and even if he doesn't do "the tell" he'll be more prepared to defend himself from Shapelog. Reason B: He was the first to bring up the possible setups. Before the game started I considered if there would be any merit for town to discuss setups on D1, and I concluded that talking about it before anyone had claimed anything would be probably be useless. Bringing up useless stuff doesn't further the town agenda. Although the fact that he's done all this so fast is a little confusing. 2. Slight townread on _MexicanAlien. He seems to have a genuine interest in solving the game. Didn't know that mafia knows the setup (could be WIFOM I guess, but whatevs). 3. Slight mafiaread on Darthfoley I would've expected him to be more excited about rolling town considering his previous game. His posting also feels a little casual and uninvested at times: On January 27 2016 06:43 darthfoley wrote: he did help successfully defend me from a lynch that game tho so shoutouts to you kush Going forward:Talk about other players. On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote: Is anyone else here seeing a pattern? Not sure what you're referring to, very curious to hear what you've noticed. Nice dude, this is my first ever game as well, I also got super interested after binge watching "The Town" with dota personalities. Anyway, relative to the game, Sorry for not posting until now, I was out socializing for Australia Day, then had a graveyard shift at work, and only just got back / read through everything. I don't have any major reads, mostly since I haven't slept in about 36 hours and can't put a coherent thought together. I'll definitely re-read the thread more carefully after I've had a decent sleep and post some more transparent observations, but for now I'll just be lurking.If anyone wants to direct some questions at me feel free. I don't like how this guy only post says that he has reasons to lurk and asking other people to give him questions. Idk, It might be town hearted because he seems to have good reasons to lurk for right now. Still if this guy doesn't post anything make sure you keep a eye on him, as i will be.
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On January 27 2016 16:32 darthfoley wrote: It's not just two posts. This reminds me very much of the Eden I just played with, who was very good the whole game.
It was a bit of an exaggeration, but I strongly believe quality > quantity. Idc how long your filter is if it's all shit. Eden is a very good town and I think his logic is quite sound in those posts Wait what? If you believe that then no way in hell i should be town rofl.
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