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No seriously. JAT is going senile.
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Superbia, ritoky, obiwanshinobi
And I will bench VA, sicklucker.
Pretty sure I am really close to it with this prediction.
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On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot:
Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...
At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him.
They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later.
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On March 29 2016 09:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? Motherfucker can you fucking explain it clearly 'cause all I'm seeing is "TT put Koshi in the 100% town category when a lot of people were scumreading him". If that is all I'm not convinced.
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Tomorrow I will reread things. Goddamn. You should have lynched me. Redemption will have to wait till another game.
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Oh I thought JAT posted that. Sry
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It was BY FAR ticktocks strongest read.
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On March 29 2016 09:31 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:29 Koshi wrote:On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? Motherfucker can you fucking explain it clearly 'cause all I'm seeing is "TT put Koshi in the 100% town category when a lot of people were scumreading him". If that is all I'm not convinced. Weed, LSD, cocaine, mushrooms, crack? Pick your poison.
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On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot: Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him. They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later. This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe.
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On March 29 2016 09:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot: Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him. They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later. This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe. SHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't give him a bad trip. Jeezus. Maybe his head will explode.
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On March 29 2016 09:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot: Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him. They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later. This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe. Of course not but in that case he still visited Koshi and for all investigative purposes he was saving him so it is something you could fakeclaim very well when KP are missing.
Judging by Koshis behaviour right now it is more likely that it is kurumi anyways though.
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Rels confirmed party pooper.
Goddamned. Why tell him that. It was so much fun.
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oh wow. Writing off tictock from association reads was a bad idea. This makes me think both slam's and rsoultin's slots are town. have to re-assess the game tomorrow.
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On March 29 2016 09:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:34 Rels wrote:On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot: Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him. They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later. This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe. SHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't give him a bad trip. Jeezus. Maybe his head will explode. Where was your whole obnoxiousness earlier? If you hadn't hid your whole assholeish stupidity for no reason you wouldn't have been pushed at all and we wouldn't have wasted all this time. What's the point of playing like a retard only to throw your whole new style away AFTER you avoided the mislynch?! How retarded is that?
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On March 29 2016 09:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:34 Rels wrote:On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot: Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him. They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later. This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe. Of course not but in that case he still visited Koshi and for all investigative purposes he was saving him so it is something you could fakeclaim very well when KP are missing. Judging by Koshis behaviour right now it is more likely that it is kurumi anyways though. You are still going with this?
seriously?
Why would they do this? Why would mafia Kurumi tell mafia TT to claim a safe on me before he claims a shot? Why???????
Holy mozes are you insane?
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On March 29 2016 09:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:34 Koshi wrote:On March 29 2016 09:34 Rels wrote:On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot: Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him. They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later. This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe. SHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't give him a bad trip. Jeezus. Maybe his head will explode. Where was your whole obnoxiousness earlier? If you hadn't hid your whole assholeish stupidity for no reason you wouldn't have been pushed at all and we wouldn't have wasted all this time. What's the point of playing like a retard only to throw your whole new style away AFTER you avoided the mislynch?! How retarded is that? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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On March 29 2016 09:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:36 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:34 Rels wrote:On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot: Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him. They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later. This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe. Of course not but in that case he still visited Koshi and for all investigative purposes he was saving him so it is something you could fakeclaim very well when KP are missing. Judging by Koshis behaviour right now it is more likely that it is kurumi anyways though. You are still going with this? seriously? Why would they do this? Why would mafia Kurumi tell mafia TT to claim a safe on me before he claims a shot? Why??????? Holy mozes are you insane? Not only claim a safe on me. But do it in a way only JAT could ever interpret it as one.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
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oh shit this is too good.
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On March 29 2016 01:36 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 01:29 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 01:12 Damdred wrote:On March 29 2016 01:03 Vivax wrote:To answer Damdred: When I read Rels there's some townie stuff actually. Sure he's inactive but I highly doubt that depends on his alignment as he can be a spammy and active mafia player. Reads more like he just does stuff on the run. On March 26 2016 06:08 Rels wrote: Caught up. I don't want to lynch rsoultin.She's kinda underwhelming but she was also there talking about reads for a long time. Tube on the other hand is a good lynch I think, I liked JAT and Kurumi's posts about him. Gonna filter him after that post to see if that changes my mind or not. Still want to lynch ritoky too. For all the old reasons + he didn't do anything since. Like, it's really different from the town!ritoky I remember from two past games: I want to be a millionaire and ... nutcracker I think ? The one before outlaw. In those games, ritoky was challenging the thread with questions, and in nutcracker guiding the lynch towards someone scummy BUT while at the same time keeping the people he could read alive even if they were scummy. Like it showed a will to solve the game which is not there in this game; he did the plan and that is it.
Who I thnk is town in random order: Vivax, OWS, Kurumi, SL, Slam, JAT, Shape, Koshi, Tumble. Who I'm OK lyncihng: tube, ritoky, Stutters, VA. People I didn't list or I forgot are either null or slight lean one way or the other.
As for your points, I feel like I need to be advocatus diaboli as I dont feel its that strongly scum indicative: On March 29 2016 00:27 Damdred wrote: I built a case on Rels but before I submitted it I exit'd out and not sure if I believe it myself heres what I have and the thread can spit ball with me and see if I have anything worthwhile.
1) Rels is super different than normal, hes not involved in a lot of whats going on in the game. His activity is way down, his questioning and pressing people is a lot less than normal and hes not scum hunting almost at all. 2) His tone is way off, look at his eod post for d1. He was wrong he just says fuck and then fucks off it feels super contrived and fake to me. Usually rels when something like that is in the thread pressing people and coming up with reasonings and actually trying to proactivly help town but hes not doing that so much. Look at his post yesterday, he seems so upset that we lost a lynch bait player to him assuming a vig shot but shouldn't he be happy that we blocked both scum kp and almost gained a ml from it? 3) His questioning Ritoky really didn't lead anywhere, it seemed like it was his strongest read in the whole game the wagons were still super early when he came back he didn't press ritoky any more or even push his lynch. He decided to settle on what I consider for him to be a weaker read in tubesock he paints ritoky as his top scum read for most of his filter and focuses on him but quickly forgets it and goes with a easier wagon if you would. 4) His townreads on tumble is strange, and his townread on kurm is strange at the point as well. He barely has any active scum reads and doesn't seem to be hunting at all this game.
Its really strange and I think hes scum but maybe i'm making more out of it. Any ideas or things i'm wrong on is appreciated. 1) I dont think activity is alignment indicative in his case. 2) Idk, could be something but not what I would scumread people for, too activity centered. Tone wise I dont read much into it. 3) He said he would be ok lynching tubesock, I don't see much wrong with being OK with multiple targets. In this game you can compromise with others or you can be a lonely vote, why should he be a lonely vote? 4) Why is it strange? Isn't it just unexplained? 1) But it just is not activity either its how he is approaching the game not really looking for scum while he is here to an extent. 3) Once again his strongest scum read was Ritoky he talks about him then forgets it. Doesn't really talk much about tube before he just throws him in the list as well after the list he goes hard after tube when rit could of still been the lynch techincally. 4) It is strange because it is unexplained, he generally ahs more substantial reasoning. Well he seems concerned about the ritoky stuff, he doesn't forget him but joins the tube killing wagon after explaining why hes scumreading ritoky, doesnt seem like hes not being pragmatic for a d1. He doesnt forget ritoky he just is ok killing someone else as well? Its just not true that ritoky could have been the lynch, Rels was one of the last to vote and he didnt want to kill rso but he was ok lynching tube so its only natural he will vote tube. Imo more likely to just not do anything if hes mafia unless rsoultin is mafia, which I dont know for sure. 4) unexplained is not strange imo, its just unexplained and its not like you need an explanation for everything, just like sandro didnt need one to kill stutters. Totally didn't mention him again at any point besides that, 0 follow up past that. I forgot then his vote thats on me I thought it was much earlier than it was. And his only scum read since eod is Damdred 4) We knew why he had to kill stutters, becasue he was a total coinflip and needed to be removed from the game. Rels townreads... not so much especially when one is lynchable now. I didn't fucking do anything since eod at that fucking point. This is a "Rels is inactive since eod" reason you're trying to disguise as something else. You're so fucking annoying and you're making me doubt that townread you got 'cause of shennanie on TT.
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On March 29 2016 09:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 09:36 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:34 Rels wrote:On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote: JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ? He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot: Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him. They were probably going for a play here. If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave. If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later. This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe. Of course not but in that case he still visited Koshi and for all investigative purposes he was saving him so it is something you could fakeclaim very well when KP are missing. Judging by Koshis behaviour right now it is more likely that it is kurumi anyways though. You are still going with this? seriously? Why would they do this? Why would mafia Kurumi tell mafia TT to claim a safe on me before he claims a shot? Why??????? Holy mozes are you insane? Because it saves both of them should they be on the block. It makes both of them look towny. Kurumi is able to sit on this claim and ticktock could have claimed if wagoned (which was fortunately averted by a last second wagon). How can you not realize that this is a good play?
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