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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36694 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
I'm not a fan of how they did the "Martha moment". I think the over simplification of kind of the big emotional moment is my biggest problem with the movie. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36694 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:21 Jaaaaasper wrote: + Show Spoiler + I'm not a fan of how they did the "Martha moment". I think the over simplification of kind of the big emotional moment is my biggest problem with the movie. + Show Spoiler + Agreed. Martha moment was exaggerated and quite dumb imo. | ||
Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On March 30 2016 07:55 Seeker wrote: I'm not really sure why this movie got so many bad reviews. I watched it the other day and I absolutely loved it. I thought it was very well done and I really enjoyed the viewing experience overall. + Show Spoiler + So... He's alive right? Cause the dirt moved? + Show Spoiler + There is no way they were actually going to kill Superman. I dunno what the point even was in "killing" him. Just so he could come back from the dead so people can compare him to Jesus even more? | ||
Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
On March 30 2016 09:49 Sentenal wrote: Show nested quote + On March 30 2016 07:55 Seeker wrote: I'm not really sure why this movie got so many bad reviews. I watched it the other day and I absolutely loved it. I thought it was very well done and I really enjoyed the viewing experience overall. + Show Spoiler + So... He's alive right? Cause the dirt moved? + Show Spoiler + There is no way they were actually going to kill Superman. I dunno what the point even was in "killing" him. Just so he could come back from the dead so people can compare him to Jesus even more? + Show Spoiler + There is also the fact that it has references to "The death of Superman", and they probably thought "we have Doomsday, so we have to kill him" | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25643 Posts
On March 30 2016 07:55 Seeker wrote: I'm not really sure why this movie got so many bad reviews. I watched it the other day and I absolutely loved it. I thought it was very well done and I really enjoyed the viewing experience overall. + Show Spoiler + So... He's alive right? Cause the dirt moved? Ugh. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Batman acts all non-batman like and instead of making plans for that 1% like he would in the comics he goes all USA on Superman ass. Then he changes his mind instantly because Superman cares about his mother?! Someone that is willing to kill Superman because of 1% logic cares not for shit like that. Terribly done. Batman was a complete idiot in this movie, nothing like comic book Batman. Lex is all about keeping man as the most powerful being on planet and Man taking down a God. He manufactures a fight between Batman and Superman (in a really stupid way) but then when that fails he unleashes a monster that he cannot control and does opposite of what he preached until that moment. OMG! In the end Superman does things in most logical manner. + Show Spoiler + He tries his best, I like seeing him conflicted about what he should be and do and when faced with need to fight Batman (and ignoring that in those 30 minutes he could have found and saved Martha by himself) he goes there to talk to Bruce and basically defends himself only waiting for Bruce to calm down | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Then have Batman run down and kill really dangerous criminals that are somewhat connected with some Lex plans (maybe something to do with Lex following metahumans - maybe Batman saves Wonder Woman from some experiments). Lex sends Superman to take down Batman like in comics. We get a cool fight, maybe even Wonder Woman joins Batman. Film ends with Superman beaten by Kryptonite but then presented with some proof of Lex wrongdoings (not enough for courts but enough for next movie with Justice League). | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42254 Posts
On March 30 2016 17:58 -Archangel- wrote: They could have made a good movie if they somewhat followed the comic. After the aftermath of Man of Steel they could have got an older Lex actor who would run for POTUS and win. Then we would use that power to get Superman to get in line. Then have Batman run down and kill really dangerous criminals that are somewhat connected with some Lex plans (maybe something to do with Lex following metahumans - maybe Batman saves Wonder Woman from some experiments). Lex sends Superman to take down Batman like in comics. We get a cool fight, maybe even Wonder Woman joins Batman. Film ends with Superman beaten by Kryptonite but then presented with some proof of Lex wrongdoings (not enough for courts but enough for next movie with Justice League). I don't think Donald Trump would have wanted to shave his head though. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Doomsday and make him fight Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. From a lore standpoint, it's more closer to a Bizarro creation with it being created by Lex but since it had the adaptability after it takes damage so that it could deal with it next time then it did make him Doomsday so to speak. Anyway, why Doomsday or all villains? It could have been the Kryptonian AI (the startpoint for Brainiac basically) with an initially rudimentary body but maybe they didn't want to make it look like Ultron for the casual movie goer so they scrapped that idea even though that could have made slightly more sense to me. So if we look at what Flash said that Lois is the key to prevent Superman from going crazy/murderous, then it would be taking pages of Injustice then (by brute forcing it into one of the future JL stories) with a mix of Darkseid War maybe? Because in order for "injustice" to happen where Joker causes Superman to hallucinate about something he fears, then that would be Doomsday who has killed him. It wouldn't be Zod because Superman defeated him so its not really going to cause him to fear. And we get that storyline where Superman blames Batman for not doing anything about Joker then. It's the only logical explanation I can think of as to why they brute forced Doomsday into this movie. As for additional thoughts about additional info that is coming out recently + Show Spoiler + 1. If it is true that Bryan Cranston was really supposed to Lex Luthor and Jesse Eisenberg was supposed to be Jimmy Olsen then they decided last minute to do a change in casting and make Jesse Eisenberg Lex Luthor Jr, then they have really kept the possibility open for a Lex Luthor senior to pop up, free his son and maybe show him how its done in a proper Superman/Man of Steel 2 movie. They gave themselves an out to not immediately use Bryan Cranston in their current movie if things don't turn out positive. 2. The nightmare batman/future sequences could really have been done after the fight with Doomsday. Say Bruce takes a real beating that puts him on death's door since he is just a normal human against these "gods amongst men", then he could see those visions and instead of having flash appear in the present, maybe in the same desert sequence, Flash saves Batman from Superman and tells him to save Lois and tries to jump him back (although ala Days of Future Past Movie where it is only the memory of that event/dream is what he takes with him and not his future more worn out self) 3. I still dont understand how they plan to mix up Superman as a tyrant with his Superman Police Force vs Sons of Batman while he seems to be under Darkseid. The only thing I could think of was Earth 2 storyline where Superman "died" in the beginning and was cloned to be Bruutal who was Bizzaro Superman in earth 2 that worked for Darkseid. 4. Since I mentioned Earth 2, the Batman we got was less the regular detective no-kill Batman but a mixture of Batman earth 1 and the 2nd batman of earth 2 or Flashpoint Batman which was Thomas Wayne. So I'm guessing in a future Flash movie, they will really use Flash point as a way to course correct and reboot the franchise to correct mistakes like they did with Xmen DOFP. | ||
Godwrath
Spain10091 Posts
On March 30 2016 09:49 Sentenal wrote: Show nested quote + On March 30 2016 07:55 Seeker wrote: I'm not really sure why this movie got so many bad reviews. I watched it the other day and I absolutely loved it. I thought it was very well done and I really enjoyed the viewing experience overall. + Show Spoiler + So... He's alive right? Cause the dirt moved? + Show Spoiler + There is no way they were actually going to kill Superman. I dunno what the point even was in "killing" him. Just so he could come back from the dead so people can compare him to Jesus even more? Well, looking at how the character has been handled, that doesn't seem unlikely to me. | ||
Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On March 31 2016 11:36 Godwrath wrote: Show nested quote + On March 30 2016 09:49 Sentenal wrote: On March 30 2016 07:55 Seeker wrote: I'm not really sure why this movie got so many bad reviews. I watched it the other day and I absolutely loved it. I thought it was very well done and I really enjoyed the viewing experience overall. + Show Spoiler + So... He's alive right? Cause the dirt moved? + Show Spoiler + There is no way they were actually going to kill Superman. I dunno what the point even was in "killing" him. Just so he could come back from the dead so people can compare him to Jesus even more? Well, looking at how the character has been handled, that doesn't seem unlikely to me. I mean that char is a messianic figure whether DC wants to admit it or not. | ||
IAmWithStupid
Russian Federation1016 Posts
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SatsuinoHado
Bulgaria777 Posts
On March 31 2016 14:01 IAmWithStupid wrote: "JL vs Teen Titans" is a cherry on top of the ice cream called "BvS"! I only saw the trailer for jl vs tt looked more sad than i can even imagine... | ||
IAmWithStupid
Russian Federation1016 Posts
On March 31 2016 15:37 SatsuinoHado wrote: Show nested quote + On March 31 2016 14:01 IAmWithStupid wrote: "JL vs Teen Titans" is a cherry on top of the ice cream called "BvS"! I only saw the trailer for jl vs tt looked more sad than i can even imagine... There were some bright moments like + Show Spoiler + I've warned you + Show Spoiler + skype conversation between Nightwing and Starfire Batman is badass as usual | ||
crappen
Norway1546 Posts
On March 29 2016 23:20 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2016 22:49 714 wrote: On March 29 2016 21:36 -Archangel- wrote: On March 29 2016 10:55 714 wrote: TBH I don't know why this movie has gotten such bad reviews. The fight scenes were far more superiorly choreographed compared to the robot fights in the Nolan trilogy, and it really brought back the dark atmosphere of the original Batman movies (including the gay Robin and Carey/Freeze movies). Wonder Woman was so hot I wanted to whip it out and beat it right there in the movie theater. And I know Bruce is supposed to be a playboy, but in the Nolan films he just came across as an immature dude in his 20s, whereas in the animated series he was a classy playboy who knew how to be a man and act like he owned the room rather than falling into some shitty little pond. The Bruce in Batman vs Superman was cool, the kind of man you'd want to sleep with if you were a hot babe, whereas the Bruce in the Nolan trilogy seemed like the kind of guy who you'd have to get drunk to want to sleep with because he acts like a boy. #1 How old are you? 12? #2 Nolan's Bruce Wayne was acting like that on purpose. It is certainly better cover than being brooding both as Batman and as Bruce Wayne. Picture Nolan's Bruce Wayne. Try picturing Christian Bale without an annoying goofey smile on his face. Now picture Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne. Fucking cool. Focused on the mission. Smiles at parties are for pussies. You are a pussy. Ohh, I'm 12? Can you come up with a better insult? Oh I am sorry I mistook you for a guy. But now I see you are a little girl instead that is in love with Ben Affleck. My bad. I don't even, are you serious now or just hurt over the opinion that Ben was the better Bat? He has a valid opinion. And I didn't even know there was a DC and Marvel that made movies, I thought it was all Marvel lmao. It makes so much sense now, I thought they were just lucky with Days of Future Past etc. I totally get why I facepalm at all those cheesy as fuck Avengers movies. | ||
Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On March 30 2016 17:52 -Archangel- wrote: So many things could have been better in this movie. Motivation of both Batman and Lex is shaky and even more shaky how it all resolves. + Show Spoiler + Batman acts all non-batman like and instead of making plans for that 1% like he would in the comics he goes all USA on Superman ass. Then he changes his mind instantly because Superman cares about his mother?! Someone that is willing to kill Superman because of 1% logic cares not for shit like that. Terribly done. Batman was a complete idiot in this movie, nothing like comic book Batman. Lex is all about keeping man as the most powerful being on planet and Man taking down a God. He manufactures a fight between Batman and Superman (in a really stupid way) but then when that fails he unleashes a monster that he cannot control and does opposite of what he preached until that moment. OMG! In the end Superman does things in most logical manner. + Show Spoiler + He tries his best, I like seeing him conflicted about what he should be and do and when faced with need to fight Batman (and ignoring that in those 30 minutes he could have found and saved Martha by himself) he goes there to talk to Bruce and basically defends himself only waiting for Bruce to calm down My same thoughts when watching the movie. Still liked it, altho it was kinda long. Also do we know + Show Spoiler + who is the guy from the future who warns Batman? I thought he was the guy in the wheelchair until he went boom. | ||
Godwrath
Spain10091 Posts
On April 01 2016 00:21 Salteador Neo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 30 2016 17:52 -Archangel- wrote: So many things could have been better in this movie. Motivation of both Batman and Lex is shaky and even more shaky how it all resolves. + Show Spoiler + Batman acts all non-batman like and instead of making plans for that 1% like he would in the comics he goes all USA on Superman ass. Then he changes his mind instantly because Superman cares about his mother?! Someone that is willing to kill Superman because of 1% logic cares not for shit like that. Terribly done. Batman was a complete idiot in this movie, nothing like comic book Batman. Lex is all about keeping man as the most powerful being on planet and Man taking down a God. He manufactures a fight between Batman and Superman (in a really stupid way) but then when that fails he unleashes a monster that he cannot control and does opposite of what he preached until that moment. OMG! In the end Superman does things in most logical manner. + Show Spoiler + He tries his best, I like seeing him conflicted about what he should be and do and when faced with need to fight Batman (and ignoring that in those 30 minutes he could have found and saved Martha by himself) he goes there to talk to Bruce and basically defends himself only waiting for Bruce to calm down My same thoughts when watching the movie. Still liked it, altho it was kinda long. Also do we know + Show Spoiler + who is the guy from the future who warns Batman? I thought he was the guy in the wheelchair until he went boom. + Show Spoiler + It's Flash. | ||
Sermokala
United States13545 Posts
On March 31 2016 22:27 crappen wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2016 23:20 -Archangel- wrote: On March 29 2016 22:49 714 wrote: On March 29 2016 21:36 -Archangel- wrote: On March 29 2016 10:55 714 wrote: TBH I don't know why this movie has gotten such bad reviews. The fight scenes were far more superiorly choreographed compared to the robot fights in the Nolan trilogy, and it really brought back the dark atmosphere of the original Batman movies (including the gay Robin and Carey/Freeze movies). Wonder Woman was so hot I wanted to whip it out and beat it right there in the movie theater. And I know Bruce is supposed to be a playboy, but in the Nolan films he just came across as an immature dude in his 20s, whereas in the animated series he was a classy playboy who knew how to be a man and act like he owned the room rather than falling into some shitty little pond. The Bruce in Batman vs Superman was cool, the kind of man you'd want to sleep with if you were a hot babe, whereas the Bruce in the Nolan trilogy seemed like the kind of guy who you'd have to get drunk to want to sleep with because he acts like a boy. #1 How old are you? 12? #2 Nolan's Bruce Wayne was acting like that on purpose. It is certainly better cover than being brooding both as Batman and as Bruce Wayne. Picture Nolan's Bruce Wayne. Try picturing Christian Bale without an annoying goofey smile on his face. Now picture Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne. Fucking cool. Focused on the mission. Smiles at parties are for pussies. You are a pussy. Ohh, I'm 12? Can you come up with a better insult? Oh I am sorry I mistook you for a guy. But now I see you are a little girl instead that is in love with Ben Affleck. My bad. I don't even, are you serious now or just hurt over the opinion that Ben was the better Bat? He has a valid opinion. And I didn't even know there was a DC and Marvel that made movies, I thought it was all Marvel lmao. It makes so much sense now, I thought they were just lucky with Days of Future Past etc. I totally get why I facepalm at all those cheesy as fuck Avengers movies. In the movie universes not all of marvel is together. the avengers are Disney F4 and xmen are fox and spider man is owned by sony. the problem with Ben affleck bruce wayne is that ben affleck isn't an old guy and he doesn't play one well. God forbid he writes the batman movie himself and changes it from the grim dark world svb is. | ||
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