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This is such a great news. I love Global Events with Koreans and foreigners colliding. Finally!
I really root for herO to win it and hopefully make his way to BlizzCon. Too bad, Maru has no chance even if he wins given he barely has any points. sOs needs to win the CrossFinal + KeSPA Cup to make it to BlizzCon. Tough task for him but not impossible.
Hype!
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Hi,
I'll be in Seoul for the Group stage and would really like to see some SC2 competition. I understand it will be in Nexon Area but do I need to buy ticket somewhere ? Do we have more info about the starts time of the games ?
Thanks !
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On September 11 2016 18:15 lomira wrote: Hi,
I'll be in Seoul for the Group stage and would really like to see some SC2 competition. I understand it will be in Nexon Area but do I need to buy ticket somewhere ? Do we have more info about the starts time of the games ?
Thanks ! You can normally just show up
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will the qualifiers be casted?
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On September 12 2016 00:25 RichardNPL wrote: will the qualifiers be casted? SPOTV will broadcast them.
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so where are all the people who said that koreans only win thanks to infrastructure?
then teamless byun wins gsl, who also practiced with neeb
lol
wp, neeb!
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On September 12 2016 01:21 Incognoto wrote: so where are all the people who said that koreans only win thanks to infrastructure?
then teamless byun wins gsl, who also practiced with neeb
lol
wp, neeb! Hmm, I don't think there are many people who think "Koreans only win thanks to infrastructure". I'm sure most people understand there are usually more factors that determine why things are the way they are. Discussions have the tendency to polarize and posts like these are a good example of why. Also the fact that a teamless player wins for the first time ever in 2 decades of Korean top level Starcraft isn't exactly supporting the point you are trying to make either.
lol
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On September 12 2016 01:35 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 01:21 Incognoto wrote: so where are all the people who said that koreans only win thanks to infrastructure?
then teamless byun wins gsl, who also practiced with neeb
lol
wp, neeb! Hmm, I don't think there are many people who think "Koreans only win thanks to infrastructure". I'm sure most people understand there are usually more factors that determine why things are the way they are. Discussions have the tendency to polarize and posts like these are a good example of why. Also the fact that a teamless player wins for the first time ever in 2 decades of Korean top level Starcraft isn't exactly supporting the point you are trying to make either. lol
believe me, there aren't many people but there are people who say that
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On September 12 2016 01:21 Incognoto wrote: so where are all the people who said that koreans only win thanks to infrastructure?
then teamless byun wins gsl, who also practiced with neeb
lol
wp, neeb! Seeing how he is the first to do so in 18 years of korean starcraft or something, it actually kinda proves the point that infrastructure helps immensely (although it's not the only factor of course). Plus the general level of play in Korea seems to have worsened so it might be easier to do such a thing .
ByuN practicing with Neeb, Super and a few chinese protosses gives me good hopes for foreigners at Blizzcon :D.
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On September 12 2016 03:39 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 01:35 Penev wrote:On September 12 2016 01:21 Incognoto wrote: so where are all the people who said that koreans only win thanks to infrastructure?
then teamless byun wins gsl, who also practiced with neeb
lol
wp, neeb! Hmm, I don't think there are many people who think "Koreans only win thanks to infrastructure". I'm sure most people understand there are usually more factors that determine why things are the way they are. Discussions have the tendency to polarize and posts like these are a good example of why. Also the fact that a teamless player wins for the first time ever in 2 decades of Korean top level Starcraft isn't exactly supporting the point you are trying to make either. lol believe me, there aren't many people but there are people who say that There are some one track minded people but better not focus on them I think
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On September 12 2016 03:48 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 01:21 Incognoto wrote: so where are all the people who said that koreans only win thanks to infrastructure?
then teamless byun wins gsl, who also practiced with neeb
lol
wp, neeb! Seeing how he is the first to do so in 18 years of korean starcraft or something, it actually kinda proves the point that infrastructure helps immensely (although it's not the only factor of course). Plus the general level of play in Korea seems to have worsened so it might be easier to do such a thing . ByuN practicing with Neeb, Super and a few chinese protosses gives me good hopes for foreigners at Blizzcon :D.
Exactly. It isn't just that foreigners don't work hard enough, it's that infrastructure makes a big difference. (Of course infrastructure isn't everything).
I mean if Neeb and Byun practice together, that's pretty awesome for Neeb. He can practice with a GSL champion.
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Basetrade drama is boring.
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On September 12 2016 03:48 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 01:21 Incognoto wrote: so where are all the people who said that koreans only win thanks to infrastructure?
then teamless byun wins gsl, who also practiced with neeb
lol
wp, neeb! Seeing how he is the first to do so in 18 years of korean starcraft or something, it actually kinda proves the point that infrastructure helps immensely (although it's not the only factor of course). Plus the general level of play in Korea seems to have worsened so it might be easier to do such a thing .
Byun may be the first one to do it but it still proves that it's possible to compete with top Kespa players without the infrustructure if you just practice hard enough and have the talent.
The infrastructure is of course an advantage but I think the main reason why koreans are better than foreigners is just because they practice harder and are more dedicated to the game.
edit: also TaeJa won like 11 premier tournaments without being in a teamhouse
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On September 12 2016 10:28 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 03:48 Poopi wrote:On September 12 2016 01:21 Incognoto wrote: so where are all the people who said that koreans only win thanks to infrastructure?
then teamless byun wins gsl, who also practiced with neeb
lol
wp, neeb! Seeing how he is the first to do so in 18 years of korean starcraft or something, it actually kinda proves the point that infrastructure helps immensely (although it's not the only factor of course). Plus the general level of play in Korea seems to have worsened so it might be easier to do such a thing . Byun may be the first one to do it but it still proves that it's possible to compete with top Kespa players without the infrustructure if you just practice hard enough and have the talent. The infrastructure is of course an advantage but I think the main reason why koreans are better than foreigners is just because they practice harder and are more dedicated to the game.
He also grew up within the Korean system and also was part of a pro team for a while. That has advantages as well.
But he's the first one in 18 years. Think about all the pro players not on a team. How many Korean players do as well as him? Taeja is a good example, but again, he grew up in the system and was on a pro team. Growing up in that environment is a lot different than growing up in a place that doesn't foster Starcraft as much.
I think it's unfair to those other players to say that they don't do as well as top Koreans because they don't work hard enough. It may be the case that they don't work as hard m (or it may not), but it is a bit dismissive to say that they just need to "work harder" to be as good as the very best.
Judging from what Snute along with what other pro players on here have said, they work extremely hard at this game and do not always have the results.
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I will be praying for sOs to win this and barely edging it to Blizzcon. That would be awesome.
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On September 13 2016 08:20 MoonyD wrote: I will be praying for sOs to win this and barely edging it to Blizzcon. That would be awesome.
$o$ realized that he didn't need to win gsl in order to get to blizzcon, that's why byun won
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On September 13 2016 08:20 MoonyD wrote: I will be praying for sOs to win this and barely edging it to Blizzcon. That would be awesome. About that...
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Hi,
I am in Seoul right now and I would love to attend the finals today. I tried contacting KeSPA but so far without success. Does anyone know where the location of the finals is and if you need to buy a ticket? If yes, where can I buy this ticket and how much does it cost?
It would be amazing if I could see this live but no English translations or location makes it pretty hard to access.
Cheers,
nrage
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On October 03 2016 03:39 nrage wrote: Hi,
I am in Seoul right now and I would love to attend the finals today. I tried contacting KeSPA but so far without success. Does anyone know where the location of the finals is and if you need to buy a ticket? If yes, where can I buy this ticket and how much does it cost?
It would be amazing if I could see this live but no English translations or location makes it pretty hard to access.
Cheers,
nrage AFAIK it's still in the Nexon arena and there are free english broadcast sets for people who want them.
-source: It's been there the whole time and I haven't heard of any changes.
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